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posted October 27, 2008 10:35 PM |
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Because I'm in a situation until Wednesday where I'm only served mainstream food including meat. I pass when I can but I have to eat it sometime. I feel I'm in the same boat as those in for instance africa who have no choice but to breed to eat. I have no choice.
You have to eat mainstream food? You have no choice?
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JapanGamer
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posted October 27, 2008 11:28 PM |
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Until Wednesday or maybe Thursday. Unless I want to die or at best go without food, I cant get a replacement for meat and i have to eat something... Its just for a couple more days anyways.
Doom, I'm not trying to bash anyone for eating meat but it may seem that's exactly what I'm doing, I'm just trying to say ::sigh:: meats not needed and there's no reason for it that outweighs the many disadvantages especially the ones where the animal is concerned.
A better thread would be give one reason why wearing leather or furs is ok, then maybe a few more people would stop giving the same flawed answers. But don't worry, this one is enough as far as animal rights is concerned, in my opinion.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted October 27, 2008 11:54 PM |
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So I guess a logical reason for eating meat is survival.
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posted October 28, 2008 12:01 AM |
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Yes, however I can survive without it once I'm able to choose what foods to eat.
Thats the only good reason to eat meat stated in this thread, survival, but it's not needed in most regions
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted October 28, 2008 12:07 AM |
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Too bad not everyone gets to make such a choice.
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posted October 28, 2008 12:44 AM |
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Yea, to bad for the third world countries and the like... most people waste away the choice anyways.
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posted October 28, 2008 01:50 AM |
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Yes we have because we aren't robots limited only to past experiences or induction.
So are you afraid of getting hit by a bus when you're walking through a forest that you know is far away from civilization? No. For the same reason, you're not going to be afraid of a vengeful alien coming to enslave you.
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It's not hard at all, but to simplify it let's just talk in theory, since obviously it's not how current society works.
If I had good reason to believe that cows could enslave humans, then I would advocate not killing them. But I don't.
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Secondly, that's not what I meant. I meant that just because someone volunteers to have his body "available" for breakfast () doesn't mean other people will want to eat it (doesn't matter what reasons, maybe personal etc).
Yeah, I understand.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted October 28, 2008 03:29 AM |
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Yea, to bad for the third world countries and the like... most people waste away the choice anyways.
A wasted choice according to who?
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posted October 28, 2008 03:49 AM |
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Animals.. Perhaps even God.. People who made the right choice.
They have never even made a horror movie about the disgust and terror put into animals pushed onto humans because its even sicker than SAW, and Hostel. hostel sure, they do some nasty stuff to some people but its nothing compared to the reality of what the animals go through. Need me not find videos of just a taste, you know they castrate the animals with no pain medicines or anything like that? you know they cut off the beaks of baby chickens so they don't act "natural" in their tiny 5 chicken cages?
The right choice according to who? The right choice is at least to treat the animals better but I don't see masses telling the government to stack up regulations. The right choice according to a minority that's more compassionate than the rest of the entire world.
My stand isn't so much against meat eating as it is to give fair treatment to the animals.. I choose not to eat meat for the same reasons but my goal isn't to change ignorance as that is something that will never happen on a basis large enough to make a difference. Another animal born into captivity, another animal dead.
Eating meat is not ok the way we go about it, there are 3 reasons to eat meat without potentially being in the wrong.. Ready?
1: because some ahem, person.... killed an animal, and its flesh will go to waste.
2: Because theres not enough protien iron and zinc around to live but there are animals )even kill to survive I sway on)
3: The animal passed naturally.
I said it, in the wrong! It should disgust me to sink my teeth into a steak or set of ribs or chicken leg.. Sure they are quite enjoyable, but so are other things like illegal things. Why do people eat meat? Because there is a positive yet false belief that it is a required part of our daily diets. A positive, yet false belief which 1000000s believe, and dont give a second thought about it because it satisfies taste for a minute or two.
How extensive is the wrong? I dont know, perhaps minimal am I perfect? Hellz, no.. I smoke ciggerates and lie and whatever else is bad I probably am guilty for, but I generally dont hurt other people on purpose, I go out of my way.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted October 28, 2008 04:12 AM |
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Ah, so according to those that are self-righteous.
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posted October 28, 2008 04:20 AM |
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Ah, No.. According to those who dont support the massacure of innocent creatures. According to animals which do have opinoins when they scream in terror and agonizing pain, and perhaps if theres a god, God
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted October 28, 2008 05:48 AM |
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Lol. That's priceless. 
Must make you absolutely sick to eat meat right now. Do you eat fish too? Those poor little things are hooked in the mouth and then ripped out of the water to die, crushed under their breathren.
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posted October 28, 2008 05:56 AM |
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really, is it quite absurd? Do the opinions of compassionate humans, animals, and perhaps God seem like a priceless joke?
And actualy I enjoy meat.. I love it like C**** heads like C**** to some extent. It doesnt sicken me unless I really think about the truth.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted October 28, 2008 05:58 AM |
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The picture painted by those who think meat-eaters are senseless butchers is quite humorous, so yes, it is a joke.
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posted October 28, 2008 06:20 AM |
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This threads intention was not to bash, it was to have an intellectual discussion about rights and wrongs of eating meat. I say its wrong, but I dont paint pictures about meat eaters on purpose.
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posted October 28, 2008 01:34 PM |
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They have never even made a horror movie about the disgust and terror put into animals pushed onto humans because its even sicker than SAW, and Hostel.
True.
And btw, "eating meat" in itself ain't bad, but meat doesn't appear out of the blue. If you have a lot of meat in front of you it would be a waste to not eat it, however you can't just ignore how it came to be. For example there are all sorts of conflicts in Africa for diamonds and people get killed for that in a "competition" (so to speak). Rich people like diamonds. That doesn't mean the diamond itself is evil, but think of the consequences: it's because of the demand that such violence happens. Honestly are we mature enough to look at the roots and how it came to be instead of just ignoring and thinking that it "happens anyway"?
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I will probably successfully argue against any "logical" reason there is to eat animals.
Because we are omnivores, like pigs, and can eat anything.
Keyword here is CAN, but there is nothing unnatural about eating meat when you're a carnivore or omnivore.
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My ethics teacher, from a few years ago -a meat eater- said no one in the class could give a logical or moral excuse for eating meat without a winning response.
Duhr... The flaw in reasoning here is that it implies we NEED an excuse for eating meat... Which we don't.
It's not a debate about winning or losing, it's simply a different point of view.
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posted November 06, 2008 02:15 PM |
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The flaw in reasoning here is that it implies we NEED an excuse for eating meat...
Yes we need because animals suffer for it to be "tasty".
or then we could eat human meat too. 
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posted November 06, 2008 03:03 PM |
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The flaw in reasoning here is that it implies we NEED an excuse for eating meat...
Yes we need because animals suffer for it to be "tasty".
Suffer in what way?
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or then we could eat human meat too.
We could It's not like human meat hasn't been eaten before, both by humans and other animals.
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posted November 06, 2008 03:27 PM |
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1) Most types of Breeding. Example: Chickens get their beaks cut off so they can't injure in the small space, treated worse than slaves!
2) Skinned alive: they say the meat "it's more tasty" that way, not after they're dead.
Even hunting seems more humane  (not going to extinction ofc)
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