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perathekojot
Known Hero
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posted December 07, 2008 11:02 AM |
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once a cheater - always a cheater
Here is my second and last "gaming experience" playing with Natalka™. As usual it was very educational and inspiring. Taught me there are always some cheaters and lowlifes, who will never change and inspired me to think thoroughly who am I playing with. Anyway, here's some info on the game:
Map was Mastermind, we played random, strikeout system, I got academy, she got sylvan. And here some of the best moves by "our girl warrior"  that deserve special attention:
1. day 2 - she asked for a reload. Reason: she accidentally took seer huts quest with his secondary (Rutger) I gave her a reload without a word.
Some additional thoughts on this one: for those who are not familiar with a map, in underground near the starting position you get to choose between some random lvl2 joiners, seer hut with basic logistics for free or two random witch huts. So why then would one took quest with his secondary, not to mention secondary who already has logistic skill, and would waste quest since he will not get advanced logistic. Or, even better, why would anyone, familiar with a map, waste that quest when he can get some joiners or maybe one or two good skill from witch huts. The answer of course is simple: she wouldn't. What would "smart" person do is check the huts first, and if they don't give you and good skill, you think of some "really smart" excuse and ask for a reload.
2. week 1 - day 6 or 7. I finished my move, typed "s" and waited. Then d/c happened. Strangely, she was still online both on msn and hamachi. I tried to ping her, and everything was fine. 2-3 min after she disconnected from msn  but hamachi was still on and ping was fine. So what? Stranger things have happened, right. Well, after reload, that same turn she played 30-40 minutes and finally she suicided. This time at least she admitted it.
Then she asked, and again, I gave her a reload.
3. One might ask why did I continue giving her a second chance after having all this suspicions. Reason is I tried pretty unorthodox approach, and was really curious about whether it will work or not.
But, hey, she had a different thing in mind. After third reload she played 1 turn, order save, typed: "saved, bye" and went. Well, that was a bit short, and most of people would at least give you an explanation or head start warning if they gonna leave this quickly, but who knows maybe it was an emergency. Btw all we played in that other session is 2 turns.
So, after taking couple of minutes for a break, I started searching for another game. Found a player with who I have save. and asked him whether he wants to continue. And imagine my surprise when he told me that he's already playing, and guess who.
4. Yeah, that's right. Our very own, one and only: Natalka™. That was the limit of how much crap I could take from this pathetic excuse for a person. So I send her a message: giving it all to her, and informing you that I am gonna report that game, as my win and marking her playing with no honour. Of course, what followed was a sea of insults for couple of day, until I blocked her in my msn.
5. As I assume, she haven't reported a game, so I continue reporting it every time the report was took off from message board Finally she decided that it was she that really won that game and earned a victory, and reported herself a win in that game. So instead of writing dispute letter to Ves explaining all this, I am gonna write it here, so everybody else would know what one can expect when playing her.
And one more thing, I know there will be persons who will write: bla, bla, bla,.. another drama.. bla, bla,... do you really have too.. But this is how I see it. Average time of game in Toh is say: 4-6h. My free time per day 4h. And considering how amount of obligations and responsibilities keep piling up, it can only be less in future. So I tend to value it more and more with every day. And that's why I won't let little miserable persons waste it like this.
Who knows, we might not ever even finished that game, even if haven't reported it. It wouldn't be the first time  Or in best case we would have played untill next big obstacle in which case she would try 1-2 times, if don't make it use d/c trick, saved, and continue some other time. Why she is doing that?
She is probably trying it solo whether using two computers, or just remembering heroes stats and artifacts and amount of creature and later trying it using map editor. Or maybe it was something else altogether. This is a type of playing which she used in our first game too. Couple of consecutive d/c with very long turn, then saving and after that, next time we continue, passing effortlessly and quickly.
So my reasoning is this: if more of us would write their experiences with this type of "player" eventually this kind of behaviour would stop or at least would become less and less appealing to everyone. Maybe I am wrong, but we'll never know unless we try, right  Plus, people, should be warned about this "person", but looking at her profile and seeing only "honorable" after 40+ games, tells me that at least some of you know or suspecting this already.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 07, 2008 11:33 AM |
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Hardly surprising, besides her overall behaviour thus far was test people on how much they can take before they get pissed. I don't want to play the police everytime I have the game so I had decided not to play her again. A few weeks ago she asked for a game that I politely refused, she said I was afraid losing to a girl and I agreed with a smile Next day she logs on msn she started sending me insults so I told her to go play somewhere else and blocked her.
If nothing else I know pera and he is not a shifty person or one that wants to make a fuss for no reason. I would advice some caution when playing her.
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted December 07, 2008 01:13 PM |
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Or, even better, why would anyone, familiar with a map, waste that quest when he can get some joiners or maybe one or two good skill from witch huts. The answer of course is simple: she wouldn't. What would "smart" person do is check the huts first, and if they don't give you and good skill, you think of some "really smart" excuse and ask for a reload.
Nice idea for map, but will increase dramatic the number of disconnects, we all live in real world ...
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted December 07, 2008 03:11 PM |
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Very strong and unpleasant name for the thread. But in the end, reading carefully through Pera's explanation, i have a feeling that the biggest problem lies in his communication experience with Natalka and the rest are just assumptions.
I have had several games with her and i agree with pera on several statements... Indeed, i have felt awkward at sudden "gotta go, bye" and sometimes her abrupt communication. I agree that it might be even sold for disrespect. Pera must have felt humiliated by receiving such treatment in return for his forthcoming attitude during game.
However, as far as i have glimpsed Natalka's personality, then she is abrupt only when in emotional distress or under outside factors. But most of all - she will behave nasty if feels that is being looked at negatively, disrespectfully or from above. Quite bothersome personality trait that gets in her way and i think that is exactly what has happened in case with Pera and Elvin. As long as you are friendly, she will respond - that is my experience. The wisest is to sometimes ignore her strange behavior, if you can
Is she a cheater? Judging from my experience - certainly NO!
Let's try to work on level of tolerance  Take care
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 07, 2008 03:20 PM |
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All you have to do is read between the lines. She has enough games and knows what is and what isn't allowed so spare me that. If it was just a communication problem all would be hunky dory.
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted December 07, 2008 05:21 PM |
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Pera, why don`t u go to f*** your wife. I see that lack of sex is not good for you, not at all. I see you like to watch television with her only, judging by the title of your post - there is similar tv advertisement(once Persil, always Persil).Maybe you do the washing in your house that`s why you don`t have free time. Please tell your wife to do it and you will have more free time to play and feel less miserable. Also although I admit i suicided you accepted to reload. So it is the same when you go to buy a car and the seller tells you that the engine is not very good, but you little sucker buy it. On the next day it crashes in the street and what do you do, return it?
No you have already bought it, and you start praying your wife to get slimmer because of her overweight the engine broke down. Poor engine couldn't bear 150 kg more. So it is the same in our game , you accepted reload and you said "ok but i can have a reload too". So you can`t write yourself a win because it is already "sold". The reason why i have a long turn and then short is that i think , watch in the manual or on the next pc next to me haha, after all it takes lots of time. There is no point to explain it to you.
I don`t want advices from anyone, because I am here to play not to talk.
pera, IF I SEE A COMMENT AFTER MY POST FROM YOUR MISERABLE PERSONALITY I WILL COME TO SERBIA AND " SHTE CHUKAM SESTRA TI NA GROBA NA MAIKA TI KOPELDAK MRYSEN"
p.s. I know this little stupid f***** will translate my post, so for all of you who can`t wait, there is special promotion
I will snow your sister on the grave of your mother you little dirty snow. This curse comes from serbia, the motherland of our dear pig pera. I use it only in very special cases, actually it is the first time i use it. I think pera deserves this prize and needs to be congratulated for this special opportunity.
CONGRATS, pera, YOU RECIEVE THE SPECIAL CURSE FROM NATALKA , AND BECAUSE YOU ARE VERY UGLY (your character shows that) YOUR RECEIVE BONUS KICKS IN THE ASS . IF YOU WANT TO RECEIVE YOUR PRIZE COME TO BULGARIA OR BUY ME A PLANE TICKET.
p.s.2 I don`t want anybody to judge me, everybody has such feelings and thinks so, but only few dare to express them.
p.s.3 Strider, please don`t explain my character because actually you don`t know it too.
p.s.4 Elvin I will tell you how you will feel better. Are you ready?
First the things you have to prepare: a little toilet paper, playboy and vibrator. So here is what you have to do. Go in your toilet open the playboy. Did you do it? No elvin , not on the pages with men. Ok if you want you can do it while watching men. It`s your choice after all to be different. Now you know what to do. Then you can clean yourself with the toilet paper. If that doesn`t satisfy you , you can **** yourself in the ass with the vibrator.
CONGRATS, TO EVERYBODY WHO REACHED TO THIS POINT AND HAS READ EVERYTHING ABOVE. 
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted December 07, 2008 05:31 PM |
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My, oh Natalka, you are so charming
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted December 07, 2008 05:31 PM |
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I don`t want anybody to judge me, everybody has such feelings and thinks so, but only few dare to express them.
Yeah... I guess this makes you a very brave person. I totally admire you.
lol.
I think replies like this one should show up in a players profile or whatever it is you guys on ToH have where you can check the "honor" rateing. I mean stuff like that says a lot more about a person than any honor rateing. Myyy my my...
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted December 07, 2008 05:44 PM |
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It's just a game. Why would anyone want to play with someone like that?
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Adrius
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted December 07, 2008 05:52 PM |
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p.s.3 Strider, please don`t explain my character because actually you don`t know it too.
Well... now everybody knows your character.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted December 07, 2008 05:57 PM |
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I'm not sure I have ever met a person with a personality level that low.
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Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted December 07, 2008 06:43 PM |
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SHTE CHUKAM SESTRA TI NA GROBA NA MAIKA TI KOPELDAK MRYSEN
No matter what you say, it's still a beautiful language 
take it from me, you don't want to translate that.
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 07, 2008 06:46 PM |
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That was poetic. We love you too
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted December 07, 2008 07:03 PM |
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natalka: If you wonder why you are blocked in my msn read again your post. This language is not acceptable !
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Fraudatio
Famous Hero
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posted December 07, 2008 07:03 PM |
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And we have an application for the first enterance into the hall of shame, good luck! No need to bother Strider. She can obviously speak for herself. Deleted, blocked and gone, weee
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted December 07, 2008 08:07 PM |
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wow!
lol...
I cant believe the language!!!
Even I don't know each players meaning I haven't played them yet, I totally disagree the language. Also, d/c fact is obviously clear.
Also,
I suppose, its like a rule to see such "acts" at least monthly. But I have to admit that this is the right place for such arguments, we all have to know them/us...
I'm glad you post that pera, otherwise I didnt know the character.
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dacian falx behind you
-knowledge itself is power-
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lord_nerevar
Hired Hero
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posted December 07, 2008 08:37 PM |
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HAHAHAHAHAHA,
Imagine how is she in bed
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted December 07, 2008 08:44 PM |
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HAHAHAHAHAHA,
Imagine how is she in bed
We all are waiting for a reply Natalka, as u imagine....hihihi
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dacian falx behind you
-knowledge itself is power-
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 07, 2008 08:45 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 21:05, 07 Dec 2008.
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I'm sure you are but she is silenced for 24 hours to cool down. Let's not get her started again shall we?
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted December 07, 2008 09:06 PM |
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I'm sure you are but she is silenced for 24 days to cool down
hmm 
isnt this forum, suppose to be for sort things out as well? i mean besides gaming stuf etc
if you go on silencing ppl.. i dunno.. not sure i agree
btw did you mean 24 HOURS?
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