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xerdux
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted March 22, 2009 02:13 AM |
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Edited by xerdux at 02:14, 22 Mar 2009.
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Yeah, we help them do the job.
Now, if you excuse im going to create a Warcraft lore thread where I will have a big FAQ and a large basic summary of the Warcraft lore.
I play because its fun. I raid because its fun to see my guild develop, progress and making bonds to other members.
And yet you have not said why Warcraft lore is ruined.
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted March 22, 2009 02:20 AM |
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Quote: Yeah, we help them do the job.
Now, if you excuse im going to create a Warcraft lore thread where I will have a big FAQ and a large basic summary of the Warcraft lore.
It's just like drowning kittens with you, Xerox.
Please. We do not not need another.
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I play because its fun. I raid because its fun to see my guild develop, progress and making bonds to other members.
Ok. That's fine. You have your reasons for liking it. Can't we have our reasons for disliking it?
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The giant has awakened
You drink my blood and drown
Wrath and raving I will not stop
You'll never take me down
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xerdux
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted March 22, 2009 02:32 AM |
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Edited by xerdux at 02:33, 22 Mar 2009.
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Because you have no valid arguments.
Either you say monthly fees. Fine, but that has nothing to do the game itself. Monthly fees are the future.
Or they say it sucks. Thats not constructive at all.
Lastly, they say its endless grind. Although this was true in vanilla and BC - the people obviously didnt come over level 6, dying at the hands of kobolds or using Succubus for leveling.
And yes, we do need another damn Warcraft lore thread.
I feel like I need to create a Warcraft lore thread to enlighten creature. You caused this by saying it automatically sucked when you have never tried to game beyond the trial account maybe.
You automatically asume that there are no story progressions and campaigns etc. That the world never changes. That only kids play. That everybody speaks l337 speech.
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted March 22, 2009 02:38 AM |
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Pulling a Mvass:
Quote: Because you have no valid arguments.
Just like all the "points" you make about WoW being the bestest thing ever? Or how DnD sucks because it isn't WoW? It sounds like you just can't get over the fact people don't like the game.
Quote: Either you say monthly fees. Fine, but that has nothing to do the game itself.
Wrong. It's a requirement to play the game. It has everything to do with the game.
Quote: Monthly fees are the future.
Yeah, Blizzard's future.
Quote: Or they say it sucks. Thats not constructive at all.
Again, saying it's awesome with little more than opinion isn't constructive. And I do believe you said DnD sucked.
Quote: Lastly, they say its endless grind. Although this was true in vanilla and BC - the people obviously didnt come over level 6, dying at the hands of kobolds or using Succubus for leveling.
You have provided no evidence to the contrary.
Quote: And yes, we do need another damn Warcraft lore thread.
I feel like I need to create a Warcraft lore thread to enlighten creature. You caused this by saying it automatically sucked when you have never tried to game beyond the trial account maybe.
You automatically asume that there are no story progressions and campaigns etc. That the world never changes. That only kids play. That everybody speaks l337 speech.
And you automatically assume we want yet another "WOW IS THE BESTEST THING EVER!" thread.
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The giant has awakened
You drink my blood and drown
Wrath and raving I will not stop
You'll never take me down
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xerdux
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted March 22, 2009 02:48 AM |
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Edited by xerdux at 02:48, 22 Mar 2009.
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I just love quote wars.
Quote: Just like all the subjective "points" you make about WoW being the bestet thing ever? Or how DnD sucks because it isn't WoW?
I have never said that. The last two days doesnt count as I was obviously trolling and spamming.
Source before latest two days.
I never said DnD sucked either, just that its over produced. There are like a million lame spin-offs from it.
But DnD is a nice inspiration source. I often use it in "Finding Harmony Contests" for example.
Quote: Wrong. It's a requirement to play the game. It has everything to do with the game.
But is has nothing to do within the game! Nothing with game mechanics, grinding etc or whatever you will whine at.
Quote: Yeah, Blizzard's future.
They are obviously comming up more and more if you have not noticed. Im 13 years old, live in an apartment and my parents are separated. I pay WoW myself. If you play WoW you dont need to buy 2 games a month instead.
Quote: Again, saying it's awesome with little more than opinion isn't constructive. And I do believe you said DnD sucked.
Again, you have no source on that. There are lots of things I dont like about WoW.
Quote: You have provided no evidence to the contrary.
Yes, I have actually playd the game and know that Dargoth for example reached level 20 with his undead warlock, trying to solo Shadowfang Keep and leveling with his succubus.
Sorry Dargoth for saying this
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And you automatically assume we want yet another "WOW IS THE BESTEST THING EVER!" thread.
I have never snowing said that!
Im sorry if I swear a lot, but im áddicted to debates now that im serious and its 02:45 here. In addition, I had a huge angry debate on another forum about LOTR been overrated and on that site they are rough, so I had to swear before every word to win.
It was like this.'
WARNING - SWEAR WORD ALERT
Me: Lotr is overrated! *whine*
Others: ZOMG WHY THE snow TO YOU LOTR? WIHTOUT IT MODERN FANTASY WOULDTN EXIST????
Me: I snowing know that, it doesnt make it less damn overrated.
Others: FFS YOU SUCK, I HATE YOU SO MUCH, GO AND SUICIDE snowING EMO KID BECAUSE YOU SAID LOTR SUCKS!!
Me: I never snowing said that. I said its overrated after the snowing movies were snowing releaased. You are snowing lame, humane, childish and stupid. Read the snowing post. I like LOTR a lot.
Go and snow yourself.
*Xerox enrages. Forum enemies die.*
- silence -
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted March 22, 2009 02:55 AM |
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Swearing at me isn't going to convince me of anything other than your inarticulation.
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The giant has awakened
You drink my blood and drown
Wrath and raving I will not stop
You'll never take me down
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Keksimaton
Promising
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand
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posted March 22, 2009 10:03 AM |
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Quote: Here's my thing; if Starcraft 1's servers are still up after 10 years, why does there need to be a fee? Even Red Alert 2's servers are still up. Hard to justify a fee for server upkeep from that.
I guess that they had advertisements to support them and/or then they leeched their companies's other profits. That would seem like a working system for them.
Quote: And, if Blizzard charges money for, say, SCII online and gets away with it, other companies will do it too so they too can exploit the profits. And that is a disturbing idea.
So far it would seem that Blizzard is not going to do so.
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Noone shall pass, but no one besides him shall pass.
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del_diablo
Legendary Hero
Manifest
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posted March 22, 2009 10:26 AM |
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Quote: And yet you have not said why Warcraft lore is ruined.
We can start with Illiaden, or taking down the great Nerubian on the way to icecrown?
The lore worked for Warcraft 3, it was ripping classic DnD. But meh its was good classic DnD<(so it worked). There is ofcourse some orginality like every other story.
Questions:
*Why was Kael corrupted?
*How could they select an "evil" arch druid?
*How the heck could the Scourge enslave the giants in northend?
And i could name more.
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xerdux
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted March 22, 2009 01:33 PM |
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So what was wrong about Illidan?
Illidan was finished. Blizzard intended to finish him off at the Icecrown duel anyway.
What would be his next move? He was dead before Blizzard said otherwise when Burning Crusade announched.
Anub'araks death was very lame. He dies in a 5-man instance. I would not be suprised if Arthas raises him again as a boss in Icecrown Citadel though.
Yes, this is one of the few things I think is damn lame.
1. Kael and his Blood Elves settled in the Netherstorm to still their desires, as Arcane energies constantly flow around their. As the demonic energy Fel is an part of the Arcane, there were many demons there too. As Illidan already said in TFT, they could take energies to feed themself from demons.
Kael captured many demons in the Arcatraz, which works as a prison (suprise!). Its a part of the dimensional naaru fortress known as the Tempest Keep.
But the fel energies became to much, and Kael was consumed by the energies and was easly manipulated and breaken down by the Demons. Under the influence of the Legion, Kael'thas send his Blood Elves on a suicide mission to attack the Sha'tar (sons of the light) capital city of Shattrath.
The Sha'tar, thinking Kael was still with the Illidari, saw this is an offensive move from the betrayer Illidan and started to wage a war on him.
The forces of Outland first killed Illidans two lietuants Lady Vashj and Lord Kael'thas. While been busy with infilitrating the Black Temple and defeating Illidan in an large storyline, Kael'thas was ressuecred by an Shivarra Priestess. The Shivarra are a speices of demons.
Kael'thas returned to Shattrath and announched the return of his master - Kil'jaedan. Soon, the third and final invasion of Kalimdor would begin. And without any power source such as Nodrassil to aid them - Azeroth would surely fall in the hands of the Legion.
Kael'thas took the gathered energies in the Netherstorm and traveled back to Quel'thalas. On the sunwell Isle of Quel'danas, Kael'thas rebuilt the remains of the old temples and sanctums there to summon his master through the Sunwell.
Kael used the nether energies to restore the Sunwell, temporary. Just like the orignal Well of Eternity, the Sunwell would function as a portal for Kil'jaedan (back then, Sargeras).
But through the combined forces of the Alliance, Horde, Aldor (Outland draenei) and Scryers (renegade Blood Elves) - the Shattred Sun Offensive (SSO) killed Kael'thas once more.
But it was to late. Kil'jaedan was already beign summoned.
Invading the Sunwell Plateau, the SSO fought many foes within with the aid of some Blue Dragons.
As they entered the inner sanctum and within there the Sunwell, Kil'jaedan emerged. Guarding him was the dark Naaru M'uru (this is another long story).
Weakened by the recent summoning and with the help of the Blue Dragonflight, the SSO managed to banish Kil'jaedan back to the Nether. Banish, not kill.
And in the final hour, the eredar/draenei prophet Velen entered the inner sanctum, side by side with the Blood Knight lietuant Lady Liardin (or something like that).
Velen revealed that an prophecy had already told about the Naaru M'urus corruption and the Blood Elves reckless use of the Light.
Some time ago, Kael'thas had sent the captured naaru M'uru to give the Blood Elves on Azeroth a new source of power.
M'uru knew this and it was all intentional.
The Blood Elves didnt believe in the Light. They didnt gain its powers through faith, but drained it from M'uru himself.
Devoid of the Light, M'uru entered the phase that all Naarus does in their life cycle when they are close to death.
They become one with the Void. One with the Shadows and one with the Darkness.
M'uru was later captured by Kael'thas agents and taken to the Sunwell. Although M'uru was destroyed, Velen claimed his heart and with it he restored the Sunwell.
Lady Liarden felt the pulsing powers from them, the Blood Elves had found their redemption.
As champions of the Light, they would join the Sha'tar and the Army of Light in the future in the final stand against Sargeras and his Burning Crusade.
2. Fandral is not evil in any way. Fandral saved the world from the Silithid 1000 years ago.
But it was like this.
After the Third War many Druids went to hibernation again. Among them, Malfurion Stormrage. Before he went to his Barrow Den to sleep, Fandral Staghelm alongside many other Night Elves suggested to create a new world tree has a haven to the Night elf people while norhtern Kalimdor was cleansed of Legion remeneants and corruption.
Malfurion denied the request.
As he went to sleep, he was somehow attacked. Furion became trapped inside the Dream and couldnt get out of it.
Staghelm took his chance and together with many Archdruids and the Grove of the Ancinets he convinced the Night Elves to take a seed from Nodrassil and grow a new tree.
But the Dragon aspects refused to bless the new world tree, named Teldrassil meaning Crown of the Earth in their ancient language. Without their blessing, which had not been granted because of this selfish act, Staghelms real goal to resotre his peoples immortalitty had failed.
Teldrassil was a joke and a disgrace to the Night Elves. And to late it became a beacon of evil and corruption.
It is speculated that the Old Gods have a play in its rapid corruption but we will see this in the Emerald Dream expansion.
3. I dont know where you have got this from
The Giants you see among the Scourge are Flesh Constructs or raised giants. In Northrend, only speices kind of Giant made of flesh exists. Most undead giant mobs are called "Stiched Horrors", hinting that they might just be an upgraded version of the Abominations (although the Plague Spreaders probably are meant as their replacements').
I hope you like the WoW lore better now
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted March 22, 2009 02:29 PM |
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Lol, that's retarded. Kael dies, TWICE? "Future war"? They banish Kil'Jaeden? Lame...
WoW killed the Warcraft story, which was a hack job to begin with.
And monthly fees ARE NOT the future, they are a serious problem, maybe you'll understand when your parents won't pay for everything anymore and you have to come up with $60 a month for four different games.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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xerdux
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted March 22, 2009 02:35 PM |
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Edited by xerdux at 14:35, 22 Mar 2009.
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What is lame with future war?
There will always be wars in the future.
Kael'thas been ressurcted only makes sense. He has a huge fel crystal to keep him alive and looks almost like an undead.
Is it lame that Sylvanas came back too, in wc3?
What is lame with them banishing Kil'jaedan? Did you want them to kill him? The Legion wants to destroy Azeroth. The Legion doesnt have spaceships. The Legion transport themself through portals. Only the Sunwell could sustain the entrance of such a powerful beign.
And I pay WoW myself
I still have 66% left of my monthly income.
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TheDeath
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted March 22, 2009 04:09 PM |
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Quote: I guess that they had advertisements to support them and/or then they leeched their companies's other profits. That would seem like a working system for them.
I guess that you're wrong
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Adrius
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted March 22, 2009 04:24 PM |
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Xerox... can't you just accept that some people don't like WoW?
It's like you think we're not allowed to not play WoW because disliking it is not a valid argument for not playing it or something...
You can play WoW as much as you like. But I hate getting your WoW-Love smeared all over my face every time I log onto Hc...
Seriously, your sole love for WoW completely overwhelms the love for HoMM on this entire site with all its combined members... you're like a one-man fanboy army.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted March 22, 2009 05:16 PM |
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Quote: What is lame with future war?
There will always be wars in the future.
Kael'thas been ressurcted only makes sense. He has a huge fel crystal to keep him alive and looks almost like an undead.
Is it lame that Sylvanas came back too, in wc3?
What is lame with them banishing Kil'jaedan? Did you want them to kill him? The Legion wants to destroy Azeroth. The Legion doesnt have spaceships. The Legion transport themself through portals. Only the Sunwell could sustain the entrance of such a powerful beign.
And I pay WoW myself
I still have 66% left of my monthly income.
So you switched over from your parents paying?
Anyways, the whole "killed but then ALLLIIIVVVEEEEE" thing is such a lame cop-out. Even Queen Azsheera or whatever the heck her name is, is still alive.
In a series like Battlestar Galactica you have actual, meaningful loss because characters die and then STAY dead. In WoW, SC and Blizzard games in general that almost never happens; their characters never stay dead.
I think it's lame because Azeroth has consistently beaten a demonic being of incalculable power with little or no apparent effort. = lame.
If you're going to have an all-powerful, crap-your-pants enemy, say the Tyranids in 40k, then make them actually a scary threat. Things like the Tyranids and the Necrons and even the Ruinous Powers actually accomplish things and hand significant defeats to their enemies. On the other hand, the Burning Legion is more like the Failing Legion at this point.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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Keksimaton
Promising
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand
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posted March 22, 2009 05:35 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: I guess that they had advertisements to support them and/or then they leeched their companies's other profits. That would seem like a working system for them.
I guess that you're wrong
Would you care to enlighten me?
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Noone shall pass, but no one besides him shall pass.
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted March 22, 2009 05:50 PM |
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Quote:
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Quote: I guess that they had advertisements to support them and/or then they leeched their companies's other profits. That would seem like a working system for them.
I guess that you're wrong
Would you care to enlighten me?
No, because everyone likes to argue JJ-style and NOT inform anyone about OBVIOUS things EVERYONE ELSE knows and we have a RELIABLE SOURCE, so nyu-nyuh!
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Keksimaton
Promising
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand
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posted March 22, 2009 06:48 PM |
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Quote: No, because everyone likes to argue JJ-style and NOT inform anyone about OBVIOUS things EVERYONE ELSE knows and we have a RELIABLE SOURCE, so nyu-nyuh!
I don't get it , but I think that I might have found a secret message :
"NOOB EVEL RE SOURCE." "EVEL" is propably a corrupted form of "EVIL" (some kind of a translation error maybe?) and "RE" can propably be deciphered into "REPLY" or "REPEAT" or be connected with "SOURCE" to make "RESOURCE". "Nyu-nyuh" is propably some kind of noise made by cats! I can think of three places where cats are in control! Those are: Egypt, Japan and the crazy cat lady's house across the street!
The message must be the following: "Noob, evil cats in egypt and japan shall repeat/reply to the 'source'." I can only guess what the "source" is and who is the "Noob", but none of this can be any good.
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