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Redstorm_Ent...
Hired Hero
Entertainer
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posted December 30, 2001 11:44 PM |
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Rules ruin this game
Rules have completely ruined heroes. Heroes back in season 1-2 was so much fun because first off people were playing mostly all open maps (and desert war) and 2nd the rules were kept to a minimum. Now because of all the rules, Heroes becomes the same game over and over not to mention all of the waited time I have lost on stupid draws because I couldn't use my real strategies to win the game, we just end up killing each other. Instead I have to find a "nice" way to defeat my opponent instead of killing him by any means possible. I don’t think this game was created to make it as even as possible, It was made for the smarter more strategic player to win and if that involves hit and run then why not do it. And my god people there are ways to defend it.
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madmartigan
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
who will never walk alone
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posted December 31, 2001 01:27 AM |
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Totally off topic
There should be a "no beer" rule... 
I always lost to ppl who were drunk when playing against me  I tried playing drunk.... I lost again
So my only rule is "no alcohol before/during homm3"
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted December 31, 2001 01:27 PM |
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Quote:
and it shows us the tragedy of a player with former undisputed reputation, who actually is nothing more than a
whining *smile )
what a dumb statement lol
madmartign is right no alcohol while playing..at least not during your turn...well and while posting on comunity too that would prevent that woods posts such XXXXXX statements again maybe
Motorschaaf
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aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted December 31, 2001 05:34 PM |
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Rules blahh i hate rules, thats why when i play someone i let them pick the rules because basically i would play with no rules.
Except for cartography, i find the game no fun when you can see everything on the map.
I would love to play some of the veterans but unfortunately it seems from what i've read that they had bad experiences & rather play with known people, where people like me are now at a minimum of playing.
Grails could be unfair too but usually it is really tough to find the grail because there are obselisks everywhere on random maps most of the time.most of the time obselisks are near your main castle too, but whoever finds it would defanately have a better chance of winning.
No more Arch Angels LOL.
I hope we can all have fun games & all the veterans start opening up again, because i know there's alot of players that do you wrong.
There are also alot of honerable players too that love to just play the game & honerable veterans.
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Thunder
Responsible
Famous Hero
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posted December 31, 2001 05:59 PM |
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Would I ever have a chance to play online, I would play without rules. I joined Heroes Community through ToH, but I have never succesfully created/joined game in zone. The same is through IP address.
But, the more rules there are, the more ways to break those rules are. If there is no rules, none can cheat with them.
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Tristan
Promising
Known Hero
illegally insane
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posted December 31, 2001 06:20 PM |
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Rules?
Ok, I can see a bit of both sides of rules. For one thing, as said many times before, randoms need some rules or one player could be lost before the game begins. A rule or two can be just to make the game more "fun" for you. If you don't like playing with that rule in effect, then that particular game is not going to be "fun" so don't join it. It is also likely that that player is not the type you will like to play.
On the other hand, if you see a game listed with every immaginable rule, then it is likely that the person is trying to "dumb down" the game, or make it into something that gives them an advantage. This is even more likely when they will only play one or two maps, want 2 min turns, and have played most of their games on that map or maps. They know their strategy, so they don't need the time, while you are rather limited (esp if you haven't played the map ) and lots of choices are taken away by the rules.
I prefer playing no rules, but I have still ended up accepting a few here and there. Of course, if I do play with rules, I make sure we both agree on what the rule means before we start. I will NOT play a game where no hit and run means that you can't cast a spell before you leave an unwinnable fight, but if it is meant not to use it as a tactic, fine with me. I have never been able to use it and it keeps me from worrying about it.
To sum it up, nothing wrong with rules or no rules for the most part, but make sure they are understood and stick to them if you offer them. Nobody is going to be happy if you propose a rule and break it yourself. If someone proposes a rule and won't elaborate, interpret it as loosly as you want, it is their problem! 
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If you learn so much by losing, why am I so dumb?
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Thunder
Responsible
Famous Hero
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posted December 31, 2001 07:06 PM |
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You are right. I will accept the rules if opponent(s) wants them as long as they are reasonable. But I would like to play the game how it came. And I prefer non-random maps.
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dEth8
Promising
Known Hero
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posted December 31, 2001 07:55 PM |
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no rules ..... rules ... now let's just have a good time and do our best
What's the point of playing random if you don't wanna take what you get?
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Tristan
Promising
Known Hero
illegally insane
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posted December 31, 2001 11:16 PM |
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I have only played one random map in my life, and it was against the AI, so I am not sure much about this, but I think some people play random to be able to explore.
I guess a solution would be to make more maps, but even then eventually some people have played them all, and with H4 coming out in a few months (and has been for a long time ) I think there may be less interest in making new maps. I know I prefer not really knowing what I face until I meet it. Of course, I would probably play random no rules if someone wanted to...
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If you learn so much by losing, why am I so dumb?
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Mocara
Famous Hero
what?
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posted January 01, 2002 10:48 AM |
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Redstorment - So young and yet so wise.
Woods - My angry friend =)
Deth8 - The savior of ToH
Aculias - I'll play you anytime
Mocara - You're a dork
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woods
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 01, 2002 04:06 PM |
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sacrosanct ?
who do i think i am to criticise this hc - guy ?
oh, i've first noticed that guy mb april 2000 - he wasnt yet that 'gun', but he reached the t-o-h higher ranks very soon. he was an angry young guy (especially verbal), but with with good ideas, very helpfully and he had all my respect.... but then he became an extremely blood&honour fun_is_always_my_fun player ....
in a manner which i called the arrogance of power....
oh, i dont criticise his hc-work (for this work i've to say thnxx to all hc-mbr - actual or in former times...)
but now i've lost my respect to that guy - i dont think its
worthy to be hc-mbr to tell 'alt-f4 for rulez-site' on zone or always complaining like 'i myself am not allowed
anything' or 'that was a joke...' (!)
i didnt insult u , guy.
its only because im a lit bit disappointed...
and because of my disappointness i called that a 'tragedy'...
and then theres the other german guy - a real 'german' guy ... if he didnt understand a thing then his opponent must be ill, mad or drunken....let him....
and 2 last words to pan ('is this cheating?')
''so its not as tho Andi is making some mad boot of all those who play no rules in some secret conspiracy. ''
-- noone have said a thing like that ! that statement was unnecessary....
''Its a shame to see that at least in Andi's case the reward is these kinds of remarks on this message board.''
-- but to be a hc-mbr doesnt mean that one gets free tickets for all circumstances
happy new year
-woods
@redstorment - couldnt agree more to ur posting...
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andiangelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted January 01, 2002 04:44 PM |
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wiggy_wam
Promising
Famous Hero
local pirate
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posted January 01, 2002 05:14 PM |
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don't feel too bad andi, I got trash talked when I joked around too.
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- wiggy ... who has a crush on Rob's models. Well ... the ones his age (18-26)
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pandora
Honorable
Legendary Hero
The Chosen One
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posted January 01, 2002 05:18 PM |
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woods
I didn't really follow your post, i think you misunderstood mine on the other topic as well. when i made the statemnt about andi not mass booting players, i wasn't trying to imply anyone had said that before. My only point was that unless this was the case, why should it matter what his views are? As long as he remains unbiased in his HC duties, then i don't think its a problem if his views do not reflect all of the players in ToH. Deth8's views on the game do not reflect the views of all in ToH, but there has never been any question as to his ability as Honour Council Chairperson (as there should never be)
If i said something to somehow offend you (?) i apologize, i wasn't aware that you had made any statements about Andi being in HC or about any of the HC members, so my post was not at all directed at you.
I was speaking more in general, as a former HC member, i know how much work it is, and it seems if you do 'a good job' then nobody notices you, but if you're in HC and you do something or say something someone doesn't like, suddenly all are out for your head. I think that's a shame.
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"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted January 01, 2002 07:07 PM |
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:)
pandora i totally agree .
Sometimes i have a feeling that woods is a bit envious that he is not in the Honor Council but Andi is although he plays Heroes for a longer time than him.
(sorry if im wrong but ur whining sounds a bit like that woods. i bet im not the only one that has this impression )
btw. i wonder who that "other german guy" is that woods is talking bout .
HOMMschaaf
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Mocara
Famous Hero
what?
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posted January 01, 2002 07:58 PM |
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New year, fresh start
Woods I understand what you are saying.
I do not think he is envious.
I do not want to get involved in some kind of war on Andi but just wanted to let you know I understand where you are coming from.
My ZM's are always going crazy with things like "Andi should not be on HC...what can I do?"
I HAVE NO IDEA what it is all about. I suspect that if I were on HC I would make many enemies as well because everytime you boot someone you make an enemy.
I do think Andi has abused his position by holding public zone trials on accused ToH players like he did with Hyeon_C.
Then a week later he comes back and says "Hyeon_C was proved to be innocent...it is ok to play him again."
HC should be conducted in a more professional manner I think.
NO HC MEMBER SHOULD EVER DISCUSS AN ACCUSED CHEATER IN THE ZONE WITH 139 PEOPLE WATCHING.
Rememeber Andi when you and I had a personal disagreement you said "I will get you kicked out of toh if I can." and then you tried to do that.
I've been playing in toh 5 years and you want our personal differences to affect my eligibility?
Unprofessional again.
Rather you and I like each other should have no bearing on my playing in ToH.
Is that what you think your power should be used for? Kicking out your enemies?
I do not think Andi should be removed from HC because I know he is a very capable member but maybe your philosophy torward your work should change a little bit.
To answer your question from earlier; I DO think you should not be held in the same esteem as other ToH players.
You are a representative of the league and therefor need to be on better behavior then an average player.
In closing I will say I LOVE to joke with people on the zone. If I hurt your feelings Andi, I'm sorry.
I do not seek ill feelings with you or anyone. I take you to task here only because I know you are a good HC member who could do a little better if you wanted to.
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andiangelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted January 01, 2002 08:28 PM |
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My ZM's are always going crazy with things like "Andi should not be on HC...what can I do?"
im just laughing about your silly posts mocara , i dont wanna go down on your niveau thou, so thats all i gotta say:
you need help man, same goes for woods btw...
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andiangelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted January 01, 2002 08:32 PM |
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oh and that IS a war against a HC member btw, but be careful that you guys dont loose it
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Mad_Unicorn
Famous Hero
I am a mean person shame on me
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posted January 01, 2002 10:07 PM |
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LMFAO :)
90% of you sound like kids far be it from me to stop this jabbering, but seriously most of this is alot of subtle or "read in between the lines" kind of BS. Here is a thought why not stop being little children and get out all ur grieveances in 1 post or wherever u wanna blab about it since i highly doubt you will see this person in Real Life.
Andi abuses his power(good for him)
Mocara doesn't like andi(probably for abusing his power)
Pandora likes andi(good for andi )
Motor likes Andi(good for motor but i he cant beat pandora)
Jinxer is spoiled and power hungry(blarg)
Woods confuses people with his wit(probably causes alot of problems)
Jex posts too much here(that goes for jiels too)
Mad is an arse(he has too much time on his hands when the better half is sleeping )
dont mind me i got no beefs with childish banter..
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haile73
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted January 01, 2002 10:57 PM |
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A new year has started...
... and still noone seems to be able to post anything positive. Hard to believe this forum's about a computer game when reading words like honor, war and power.
Ridiculous
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