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angelito
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posted September 12, 2009 07:50 PM |
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Alien physics =/= human physics.
And with how many Aliens have you spoken so far to be sure about THAT?
Physics are not related to a race...
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posted September 12, 2009 08:11 PM |
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Theoretically, your physics is wrong. 
I believe it was Kip Thorne who first wrote down theories about bending the space time continuum for travel. In order to do so, you would need to create a temporary wormhole, which would cost massive amounts of energy. That's astrophysics. Theoretical, yes. Wrong? Maybe, but who are you to question it without counter arguments?
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Alien physics =/= human physics.
Riiiight!... So if I'm an Alien, and my laws of physics tell me I can ignore gravity when I sneeze, I can jump to the moon?
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posted September 12, 2009 08:44 PM |
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In order to do so, you would need to create a temporary wormhole, which would cost massive amounts of energy.
I'm gonna catch a few worms in my garden
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posted September 12, 2009 08:51 PM |
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I'm gonna catch a few worms in my garden
Better put your helmet on, and take some rations with you.
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posted September 12, 2009 10:45 PM |
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posted September 13, 2009 12:32 AM |
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Alien physics =/= human physics.
And with how many Aliens have you spoken so far to be sure about THAT?
Physics are not related to a race...
Simple. I haven't. But neither has he. It's not me making the claims (that it's impossible) though...
And when I meant physics, I did not mean the "laws" of physics (or otherwise I would have written so), I meant... physics. They may not (surely not actually) have our theories. So they approach differently a problem (such as propulsion).
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posted September 13, 2009 06:31 AM |
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i would predict if there were aliens, that they have similarities and differences in their biological make up.
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posted September 13, 2009 07:33 AM |
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There is no reason to think that just because humanity hasn't acheived interstellar travel that other species have not. There are many things that "Science" once said was impossible that is now possible.
That said, I highly doubt an alien baby would be left lying around to discover.
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posted September 13, 2009 09:17 AM |
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jor-el: well that's wasted another son, it turned up dead!
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posted September 13, 2009 09:38 AM |
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There is no reason to think that just because humanity hasn't acheived interstellar travel that other species have not. There are many things that "Science" once said was impossible that is now possible.
I wholeheartedly agree.
However, I didn't say interstellar was impossible just because we didn't manage it yet. Given the distance, even travelling just below the speed of light would be much too slow for interstellar travel. This rules out any conventional propulsion system (combustion, plasma and ion engines).
I assume other, more exotic means of travel, such as the one I described above, would demand massive amounts of energy (to the extent you would need a black hole or a massive star as power source). That's an assumption indeed, based on human theoretical physics. You do have a point that there are many things about astrophysics that we do not know today.
But even if an alien race would have discovered a relatively 'cheap' method for interstellar travel, why would they go through all this trouble just to circle some laps around our planet? That's very very unlikely, if you ask me.
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posted September 13, 2009 10:01 AM |
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Edited by Adrius at 10:12, 13 Sep 2009.
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(which by the way wouldn't be the most intelligent design for a spaceship)?
Actually disc shaped aircraft are quite good for stealth since it scatters radiowaves very effectively. Many countries have tried to develop them.
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What people in America see as UFOs may in fact be the military testing their aircraft.
Look, the Sikorsky Cypher, a remote stealth reconnaissance saucer which uses hidden rotor blades, very quiet. It can be sent in between buildings during urban warfare and take pictures.
Cypher video
Pretty cool eh?
If aliens wanted to stay hidden on earth, saucer-shapes are a possibility.
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posted September 13, 2009 10:05 AM |
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Curiosity? Scientific study? To see if it is worth their time and effort to engage us in trade (of any kind), fellowship, and/or such? These are all reasons beings from space might 'cruise around the neighborhood'. Although I have seen a 'UFO' (if it is flying, an object, and you can't identify it..it is a UFO even if it could be some mundane thing ). I'd almost bet anybody who has looked up in the sky at night near any type of airport has seen a 'ufo' (even if it is only an airplane ).
However, I digress. Do I think Aliens have visited earth? Maybe, but they didn't abduct 'bubba' to do probes on him. That was the moonshine talking . Does something LIKE area 51 exsist? Could be, but we will probably never officially know unless suddenly there were spaceships overhead. Then..it would probably be too late .
IF creatures from space are visiting here there are somethings that are probably true.
The reason they have not contacted us is we are not evolved enough. We kill each other, why would they think we wouldn't do the same to them (or try). MAYBE when humans can get along, until then, they would probably be smart enough NOT to contact us.
They have probably evolved far enough that things like energy/money/etc are purely trivial. IE the amount of energy used or material needed would not be important to them. Think things like replicators, endless energy supply, or things we couldn't even begin to imagine let alone comprehend.
They are friendly (Remember this is IF they are 'hanging around'). Why? Cause we are not food/slaves/slag. With the technology they would posses to travel the stars, it probably would be no challenge to do any of that..since they havn't most likely they are friendly.
May not look like us, or anything we might even recognize/conceive/ dream of/etc. Could be intelligent space crystals for all we know. Unlikely? Probably, but impossible...? Or..could look exactly like us..which may be even scarier. (I would HATE to think what humans would do if we found another planet with intelligent life that had low technology or something).
Could be intergaltic pranksters. All the 'aliens' we find could be their idea of a 'joke' and they are laughing their hinny's off  . Same for the 'abductions', just do things like that to see our reaction. Hehe we might be the star of some intergalactic reality show and never even know it. "What will Earthlings Do Next?! Find out on the next edition of "Hijinx and idiots."
Could see us as no better then some people see animals or insects. We wouldn't bother trying to talk to say ants, so they don't bother trying to communicate with us.
Bah the possibilities are endless. Heck they might not even NEED ships, they might BE ships...
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posted September 13, 2009 10:21 AM |
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Hoax. Nothing more.
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posted September 13, 2009 11:45 AM |
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here is something real that always seems to be one of my favorite mysteries
"The Piri Reis map shows ..<snip>.. the northern coast of Antarctica. The northern coastline of Antarctica is perfectly detailed. The most puzzling however is not so much how Piri Reis managed to draw such an accurate map of the Antarctic region 300 years before [Antarctica] was discovered, but that the map shows the coastline under the ice. Geological evidence confirms that the latest date Queen Maud Land could have been charted in an ice-free state is 4000 BC. "
The map comes from a time around 500 years ago, where we believe they did not have the technology to chart under the layers and layers of ice in Antarctica.
By the way that site has a LOT of things documented like this. Some of the craziest mysteries imaginable are well documented here.
(for easier webernet travel, these are where the main part of the site is, under these links on the site map "
SCIENCE MYSTERIES | STRANGE ARTIFACTS | MYSTIC PLACES | ANCIENT WRITINGS | "
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posted September 13, 2009 05:19 PM |
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Given the distance, even travelling just below the speed of light would be much too slow for interstellar travel.
What if the aliens are from the Moon?
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posted September 13, 2009 05:27 PM |
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Some people believe that there is another intelligent underground dwelling race here on Earth, which evolved from dinosaurs.
Though I always find this supernatural stuff interesting and believable, but I too say that this is a hoax. If this would be true, than it would been top secret.
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posted September 13, 2009 05:30 PM |
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Though I always find this supernatural stuff interesting and believable, but I too say that this is a hoax. If this would be true, than it would been top secret.
Ironically, if there wouldn't be any photos, people would complain that "governments can't be flawless, they have to make mistakes and leak some info". They don't even HAVE to keep it top secret, because people won't believe it anyway.
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posted September 13, 2009 08:22 PM |
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Whoa (o_O)
I'm still in shock to see Nidhgrin has come back to post here! THAT'S AWESOME!
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posted September 13, 2009 08:32 PM |
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Oh no... my speices must not be revealed! What have they done to my little sister? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE? 2012 and the Mothership comes!
Anyway. I think it's a hoax... No, I know IT'S FAKE. Lol.
People are stupid to asume that a speices from a very distant world would look so similar to humans -.-
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posted September 13, 2009 08:38 PM |
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it doesn't really look much like a human.
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