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Mytical
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posted October 28, 2009 12:37 PM |
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Get angry - Live Longer
Ok after reading the following here I started wondering if it is possible. So that Corribus doesn't thump me I will state...I have not had time to properly research this, but want peoples INITIAL reaction to it. Especially those like Corribus, who may have more understanding or ability to further research the topic.
So..does bottling up emotions negatively impact how old you live to? Initial thoughts.
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posted October 28, 2009 12:44 PM |
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Well I find it plausible. The people who bottle up chokes to death.
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posted October 28, 2009 01:02 PM |
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Am finding this slightly ridiculous. People who "vent" more are people who deal with more negative feelings, since they learned that it's okay to have them and show them. People who "bottle up" are more accepting after a while. I think bottling up in general is a bad metaphor. expression of anger is more like an addiction. You'll start doing it more and more, because the first time felt rather good and was accepted. I call BS.
Now, people with a depression is another thing. But that's different from an inability to express anger.
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Mytical
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posted October 28, 2009 01:26 PM |
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My initial reaction is...that the sample used is a bit limited to determine if it is accurate or not. A much larger sample would be needed for me to be satisfied with the conclusion. However, I am still looking for other peoples initial reaction. After all a experiment has to start somewhere.
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posted October 28, 2009 03:31 PM |
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This is statistics, not medical research.
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posted October 28, 2009 06:02 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 18:03, 28 Oct 2009.
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lol, at first I thought they would say that being a hater makes you live longer lol (would be the contrary imo)
well, what they say seems to make sense
the title of the thread is wrong btw. it's not 'get angry', but 'express anger'
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posted October 28, 2009 06:27 PM |
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Bad stress decreases your lifespan; venting (usually) decreases bad stress. Simply not getting angry except over where it's merited would be even better I'm sure. This is probably the lesser of two evils.
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posted October 28, 2009 06:35 PM |
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Takes a group of 1000 people and hands them machine guns. Statistically the people who didn't express their anger were 999 times as likely to die as the ones who freely expressed their anger.
Conclusion: For improved health, buy a machine gun and blow the hell out of people who piss you off.
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posted October 28, 2009 06:39 PM |
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Take any sort of study that has any margin of error whatsoever and give it to Binabik. Statistically, there's a 100% chance he will call it worthless.
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posted October 28, 2009 06:42 PM |
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Everything has a margin of error.
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posted October 28, 2009 06:42 PM |
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Yeah.
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posted October 28, 2009 07:23 PM |
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Berserkers were not noticed to live for long.
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posted October 28, 2009 07:33 PM |
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Edited by Binabik at 19:41, 28 Oct 2009.
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My problem is with the article far more than the study itself. The study is what it is. I'm not sure if I would agree, but one could argue that ANY statistical study is neither valid nor invalid as long as care is taken with the collection of data and recording the conditions of the test. It's just raw data and only the interpretation can be flawed.
In this case, the article itself is terrible. It's just another example of irresponsible "journalism".
Quote: "When you're mad, do this: scream, holler, rant, and rave."
THAT sort of thing is what I really have a problem with. It's typical irresponsible journalism that sensationalizes "the latest study".
There is also a subtle, but powerful implication in this article. (see thread title)
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posted October 28, 2009 07:37 PM |
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Berserkers were not noticed to live for long.
They was known for an anger beyond mortals, and a strength beyond mortals. Commanders usually sent a few of them to tear enemy infantry to piece in their blind drug fuelled rage.
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DagothGares
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posted October 28, 2009 08:24 PM |
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Quote:
My problem is with the article far more than the study itself. The study is what it is. I'm not sure if I would agree, but one could argue that ANY statistical study is neither valid nor invalid as long as care is taken with the collection of data and recording the conditions of the test. It's just raw data and only the interpretation can be flawed.
In this case, the article itself is terrible. It's just another example of irresponsible "journalism".
Quote: "When you're mad, do this: scream, holler, rant, and rave."
THAT sort of thing is what I really have a problem with. It's typical irresponsible journalism that sensationalizes "the latest study".
There is also a subtle, but powerful implication in this article. (see thread title)
They didn't really give a lot of data from the statistics, either...
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posted October 28, 2009 08:24 PM |
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I'd say it depends on the person, but that's most of all because the definition seems vague (bottling up an emotion).
Here's my guess anyway:
If you're bottling up (focusing) on any given thing, but you don't do it, then for a sufficient long time it's probably not very positive.
Most of you probably have experienced, when you were kids that you're promised something you impulsively wanted in the moment for christmas/birthday, however as a kid your excitement often seases after a few days, and in these days you've bottled up a lot of "looking forward to", where you probably have been thinking about this specific item of wish for long periods pr. day.
Now as a kid, after the few days of high excitement, I believe most stop thinking about it, because something new exciting takes your time (probably friends or something), and first when it gets very close to christmas/birthday (for some longer than for others), your excitement returns and that way your christmas/birthday is super good, because your boiled up excitement gets unleased at a proper time.
However imagine now, if you had this excitement for a much longer period, and that you never really would let it all out, I'd think it'd be pretty similar to "forced thoughts", because the enjoyment of the excitement would probably be replaced by a very negative emotion, yet you'd still not be able to really stop thinking about it (as it has become a habit, due to giving in to the positive feelings from before).
The same probably goes with anger, boiling up anger, means in my definition that you focus on your anger, long after it's even relevant anymore.
First you don't become angry, because you believe it's the right thing (and I believe so to, anger doesn't help).
Then you think back of how you've been mistreated and may get some kind of adreneline rush of imaginging you letting your anger out on those who've mistreated you.
Here's the problem, because the adreneline rush feels good, but it keeps focus on the anger, and as time goes it forms a habit of you focusing on the stuff you'd do to those you're angry on, however the adreneline rush becomes much weaker and is replaced with a depressing feeling of powerlessness, or something the like.
However you can't get out of your rutines, because they've become a habit, because you did it to long, and thereby keeping on focus on your anger, going in the same track, will probably in the long run not be very healthy and stress you out, because you'll have less time for what you really want to be doing.
However, I don't think there's any problem in not expressing anger, the important thing, is to keep in mind why it's important, it's not because it might hurt others, it's because it doesn't really help you getting your point across, it has no positive effect, so whatever made you angry doesn't matter, and certainly something that you should never focus on, just ignore, because in the long run, we choose our reaction, we choose if we want to get angry (express our anger) and we choice if we want to feel angry (focusing on the emotion), however as you start getting into the wrong track, the longer you're in this track, and it goes for everything you can be addicted to, the harder it'll be through willpower alone to change your ways.
Though they might mean something else by boiled up anger, I don't know.
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posted October 28, 2009 08:48 PM |
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As to the article itself, I've seen longer and more convincing ones. It does not help taking it seriosuly, even if it may be true.
I've heard about much better research which proved people cursing a lot tend to be less stressed.
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posted October 28, 2009 08:50 PM |
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Also, it's pretty subjective.
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posted October 29, 2009 12:46 AM |
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I've heard about much better research which proved people cursing a lot tend to be less stressed.
they tend to make other people angry too.
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posted October 29, 2009 02:17 AM |
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Edited by Celfious at 02:20, 29 Oct 2009.
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if everyone was biologically the same, and some did not need what others do, then I would research/entertain such claims as this.
Honestly, I would sooner read tabloids than an entities attempt to dress up the unknown with facts twisted with projected theory.
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