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TheDeath
TheDeath


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posted November 19, 2009 10:48 PM

Has Johnny seen the man in the mask before doing "bad" stuff?
Is the man in the mask threatening to Johnny because of his mask?
Is the mask the only of its kind? (i.e only that man has it)
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Ghadar
Ghadar


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posted November 20, 2009 12:22 AM

Is the man in the mask a surgeon?
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mvassilev
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posted November 20, 2009 01:27 AM
Edited by mvassilev at 01:29, 20 Nov 2009.

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Has Johnny seen the man in the mask before doing "bad" stuff?
Could you rephrase this question?
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Is the man in the mask threatening to Johnny because of his mask?
Could you elaborate on this question?
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Is the mask the only of its kind? (i.e only that man has it)
No, there are other masks like it in the world.
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Is the man in the mask a surgeon?
No.
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TheDeath
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posted November 20, 2009 01:30 AM

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Is the man in the mask threatening to Johnny because of his mask?
Could you elaborate on this question?
If, without his mask, Johnny would not be afraid of him?

Is the man in the mask a doctor?
Is the man in the mask a dentist?

Is the man in the mask actually helping Johnny (but Johnny thinks otherwise)?
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Ghadar
Ghadar


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posted November 20, 2009 01:33 AM

is a baseball game involved,could the man in the mask be the catcher?

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mvassilev
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posted November 20, 2009 01:35 AM
Edited by mvassilev at 01:35, 20 Nov 2009.

If the man would not have been wearing his mask, then no, Johnny wouldn't have been afraid of him.

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Is the man in the mask a doctor?
Is the man in the mask a dentist?
No to both.

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Is the man in the mask actually helping Johnny (but Johnny thinks otherwise)?
Hmm... kind of. It's difficult to elaborate upon without giving it away.
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is a baseball game involved,could the man in the mask be the catcher?
*ding ding ding*
WE HAVE OUR ANSWER!
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TheDeath
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posted November 20, 2009 01:38 AM

Do they beat each other in baseball or what?
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Ghadar
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posted November 20, 2009 01:41 AM
Edited by Ghadar at 01:53, 20 Nov 2009.

Let me explain the answer for you,TheDeath

They play a baseball game. The base-runner (Jonny) sees the catcher (man in mask) waiting at home (plate) and so decides to stay at third base to avoid being tagged out.

Here is a new riddle...

The compares me often with glass,but i am more like light,were i am gone,there stays only hate, but you shouldn't find me.

where am i?
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ihor
ihor


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posted November 20, 2009 09:56 AM
Edited by ihor at 09:57, 20 Nov 2009.

@Corribus
I have already presented that your riddle in the Math thread, but with 3 different colors, not 2 and 100 men as I remember. You could try to generalize this riddle when amount of colors 4 or 5 or ...

@Protos
Just to return to your riddle.
I'm not sure if I understood your riddle right.
1)I suppose the leader with green eyes knows that his eyes are green
2)First day leader will say: "I see..." If nobody leaves this island on first day evening then the situation will repeat on the second day, so similarly the second day nobody leaves and situation will repeat to infinity. Hence somebody must leave on the first day, so somebody will know the color of his eyes on the first day. I don't understand how somebody can find out the color of his eyes just after the statement "I see...". Maybe there is a gap in my thinking, any other ideas?

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Protos
Protos


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posted November 20, 2009 10:40 AM

1) Nope, he dont know
2) Situation wont stay described way until infinity. On some day someone will leave island for sure. And there is only one, unique solution.

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ihor
ihor


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Accidental Hero
posted November 20, 2009 11:20 AM

I'm confused.
If the leader doesn't know the color of his eyes, then how he knows that he must say something?

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Protos
Protos


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posted November 20, 2009 11:56 AM

Because that is the rule. He gathers all them together every day at noon and if he see someone with blue eyes, he will spoke. This thing has nothing to do with his own eyes.

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ihor
ihor


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posted November 20, 2009 01:38 PM
Edited by ihor at 13:39, 20 Nov 2009.

Let us go aside a bit.
Let it be 1 man with blue eyes and 199 with brown. It is obvious he will leave the island on the first day. Those with brown can't guess on 1st day.
Let it be 2 men with blue and 198 with brown. After "I see.." both 2 will think - here is that guy has blue eyes and nobody will leave on the 1st day. But on the 2nd day each of them will leave because they both will think - If I have brown then he should have left yesterday. Those with brown can't guess on the 2nd day.
Let it be 3 men with blue and 197 with brown. On the 3rd day each of blue-eyed will think - If I have brown then there 2 blue-eyed and 198 brown-eyed and then 2 blue-eyed should have used upper rule and leave on day 2. So all 3 will leave on day 3.
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Similar thinking, which could be interpreted to mathematical induction.
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Conclusion: On day 100 all 100 blue-eyed will leave this island.

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Protos
Protos


Known Hero
posted November 20, 2009 01:43 PM

Yep, that is correct solution.

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ihor
ihor


Supreme Hero
Accidental Hero
posted November 20, 2009 01:50 PM

@Carcity

Not to lose your topological riddle. I think it's impossible if we are talking about 2-dimensional space, so pipes couldn't be one under another. Are you sure you have a right solution and it's not a joke-riddle?

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Carcity
Carcity


Supreme Hero
Blind Sage
posted November 20, 2009 07:27 PM

@Death you're supposed to draw lines (with how many curves as you like) from each square to each one of the three circles, so 1 must be connected to all three circles, same for two and three.
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ihor
ihor


Supreme Hero
Accidental Hero
posted November 20, 2009 07:38 PM

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It's impossible with lines, but with curves it's easy.

If it's so easy then draw, cause I can't see Maybe I'm blind.
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Celfious
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posted November 20, 2009 10:11 PM

Solution 1, enemy of enemy is a friend, house 1 and 3 gang up on house two and steal his resources, give each other dirty looks, and enjoy the extra space between them which is the now disappeared house 2 owner. .

Solution 2 one of the houses use electric heating and stove.

Solution 3 Tesla coil for at least one of the homes.

Soooo, I did this and had fun but no matter how I did it I could not get gas to all 3 homes without sacrificing water or electricity to one of them. If this is supposed to be done without the 3 resource "pipes" crossing each other then can you please show me, thanks.

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on the picture are three squares, each square symbolises a house, each house needs to be connected to water, gas and Electricity. But the people in the houses hate each other, so they don't want their pipes to cross each other.

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Carcity
Carcity


Supreme Hero
Blind Sage
posted November 20, 2009 10:26 PM

well I finished it, although I kinda cheated a little little bit.
anyway here's my solution:


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Corribus
Corribus

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posted November 21, 2009 07:07 AM

Am I the only one who sees a problem with that solution?
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