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JollyJoker
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posted June 15, 2012 10:12 AM

Hilarious.

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Tsar-Ivor
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posted June 15, 2012 10:56 AM

State education at its finest.
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posted July 03, 2012 05:36 AM

Bloomburg's war on soda may lead to more cancer. As is often the case, liberal "good intentions" in mandating how others should live often leads to disastrous results.

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Drinking more than two cups of coffee per day, or any other combination of caffeinated beverages, may lower your chances of developing skin cancer, a new reports says. The results included other caffeinated products such as soda, tea and chocolate.

The report in the journal Cancer Research found that caffeine potentially reduced the risk of developing basal cell carcinoma, a common form of skin cancer though generally considered less serious than melanoma.


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JollyJoker
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posted July 03, 2012 07:21 AM

Except that the war isn't against caffein, but against sugar, right? Also, when they say rwo "cups" of coffee, they don't mean litre pots, and when they say "per day", they don't mean per order.

In short, I do not think, smaller sized containers for beverages in public service places will increase the risk of skin cancer, and the mere suggestion is ... well. Pick something.

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posted July 03, 2012 08:56 AM

But he banned large sodas, and those drinks have caffeine. Saying his control of what others drink could result in people getting cancer because they did not consume the caffeine they otherwise would have is no more ridiculous than saying preventing someone from drinking a large soda at the movie theaters will keep them from getting fat. The policy is merely sugary liberal "feel-goodism" in a big-sized cup of elitism. "I know what is best for you and I'm going to force you to do it." I think such policies are what need to be banned, not large sodas.
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posted July 03, 2012 09:20 AM

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Bloomburg's war on soda may lead to more cancer.
Blablubb.

With movement being a prime ward against becoming fat, it's clear that school is the reason for children getting fat, because school not only forces kids to sit still, it also punishes moving around. Considering the minimal educational effects school obviously has, as most people are born dumb and die not much cleverer, school should be abolished.
School is just another one of those liberal Marxist plots to inseminate their warped world view into the minds of unsuspecting, trustful free individuals in order to corrupt decent, god-fearing folks.

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posted May 06, 2013 06:45 PM

The dems are pushing for legal status of illegal aliens. The estimated cost of such a thing is $6.3 trillion as 11+ million new people become eligible for "free" stuff from Uncle Sam.

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The comprehensive immigration overhaul being taken up in the Senate this week could cost taxpayers $6.3 trillion if 11 million illegal immigrants are granted legal status, according to a long-awaited estimate by the conservative Heritage Foundation.

The cost would arise from illegal immigrants tapping into the government's vast network of benefits and services, many of which are currently unavailable to them. This includes everything from standard benefits like Social Security and Medicare to dozens of welfare programs ranging from housing assistance to food stamps.



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posted May 06, 2013 10:39 PM

in other news

some poor african child who has lost everything, home, family, food, money, and soon, his life, looks up at the sky from a roadside. as the rot eats his flesh, his eyes glaze over and he says.

"At least I'm not living in america, where they aren't allowed more food than they can handle anymore."
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posted May 06, 2013 11:16 PM
Edited by xerox at 23:18, 06 May 2013.

This is something I think about a lot when it comes to free migration. I think a solution could be to tie access to wellfare services to citizenship. Citizenship in turn would require self-sustainment. However, I have been under the impression that the idea in the US was to offer legal status to working people staying illegaly in the country.
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posted May 07, 2013 12:13 AM

Ok, but illegals don't pay taxes, right? So once they become legal they will have to return something. If you have such big amount of illegals in US, maybe would be more beneficial at long term to include them in, even if the legalizing process is expensive at start.
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posted May 07, 2013 12:55 AM

Just classic politics.  Sponsor a bill you know has no chance of passing, then blame the other side for hating immigrants.  Amazing most people still can't see through this crap.
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posted May 07, 2013 01:40 AM
Edited by The_Gootch at 01:45, 07 May 2013.

Corribus, if congress is going to do anything for the remainder of Obama's term, then these filibustering snowheads need to be kicked out come 2014.  I for one want to see us get out from under the tyranny of the minority.  I bet Elodin feels the same way too, albeit for different reasons....

Edit:  Speaking of a nanny state update, anyone else going to pay attention to the SCOTUS ruling regarding the case that challenges DOMA?  I wonder...which political party pushed that legislation in the first place?


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posted May 07, 2013 01:49 AM
Edited by Corribus at 01:49, 07 May 2013.

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Edit:  Speaking of a nanny state update, anyone else going to pay attention to the SCOTUS ruling regarding the case that challenges DOMA?  I wonder...which political party pushed that legislation in the first place?

And what president signed it?

But yes I'll be paying attention to the ruling on the law.  If the SCOTUS has any sense whatsoever, they'll trash the sucker.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted May 07, 2013 02:09 AM

We should know in about a month.
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posted May 07, 2013 03:25 AM
Edited by Elodin at 03:32, 07 May 2013.

Liberal poster boy Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act. He is now in favor of of allowing a tiny minority to dictate what marriage is instead of defending the historic institution. Tyranny of the minority indeed.

In 1996, to stop liberal judges from redefining marriage for everybody Congress overwhelming passed and Clinton gladly signed DOMA.

It affirmed the definition of marriage this nation has always had and which the Western states dominated by Mormons had to accept to join the US. And DOMA said states that have the normal definition of marriage don't have to recognize same-sex "marriage" from other states.

Of course with liberal Messiah Bummaster in office the libbies are pushing to force as much liberalism down everyone's throat as possible before libs lose the WH.
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posted May 07, 2013 05:47 AM

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@ Elodin: *Cough cough cough*

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

-The 14th amendment to the constitution.

If you are going to make laws about marriage that are constitutional, then you may not abridge the liberty of citizens to obtain the marriage of their choice, and must provide equal opportunity for them regardless of whether or not they are a minority. The definition of what constitutes citizenship has changed over the years, but (white) homosexuals were always considered citizens. Therefore, since this amendment has been put in place, the fact that homosexual relationships have not been recognized as legitimate is, in fact, a violation of the constitution. In much the same way, this amendment protects the rights of Amish people to be Amish, black people to be free and girls being allowed to play in male-dominated sports. After all, these people are law-abiding citizens and as such must be protected equally to the full extent of the law.

And if the law does not protect them, then it must be extended to do so. Regardless of how many religions or private interest groups scream about it (secular states, after all, religions aren't allowed to rule them). This is a most literal translation of what the constitution states, which a strict constitutionalists like yourself should be able to understand.
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xerox
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posted May 07, 2013 10:45 AM

The Founding Fathers were so progressive at the time, I'm a 110% certain they would support gay marriage had they lived today.
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Elodin
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posted May 07, 2013 03:50 PM

Equal protection under the law in no way means that a person has the right to define marriage however he wishes too. The same founding fathers who wrote the Constitution wrote laws against gay sex and bigamy.

There is however, already a thread for debating marriage and the right of an extremely small percentage of the population to redefine marriage to debate that in.
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Elodin
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posted July 31, 2013 02:00 AM

The courts have said Bloomberg can't ban big soft drinks. Bloomberg is going to appeal.

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New York restaurants can continue selling large sugary drinks after an appeals court sided Tuesday with a lower court ruling that found the city's restrictions on such beverages to be "arbitrary and capricious."

The Supreme Court's Appellate Division found that the city's Board of Health "failed to act within the bounds of its lawfully delegated authority" when it moved to ban sugary drinks of more than 16 ounces in New York City restaurants, movie theaters, and other food service establishments.


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posted September 21, 2013 05:30 PM

And now it's happening in Netherlands, just with sugar this time around http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/10314705/Sugar-is-addictive-and-the-most-dangerous-drug-of-the-times.html

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