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bjorn190
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posted February 03, 2002 12:45 PM |
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I dont consider myself in the rules "club
No you are somewhere in between.. I think. Anyone playing random is not in the rules club.
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Generalization can be dangerous
Yes, generalization is always wrong. <----- So freaking ironic =))))))
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jiels
Adventuring Hero
LFM C'thun, pst.
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posted February 03, 2002 12:45 PM |
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Rychen: I wasn't trying to classify you, you seem to play like me; rules or no rules let's just have fun!
I just wanted to point out that you said it best in that old post of yours.
Ohhh, sounds like fun. I'll be back next week and playing again.:-D I'm sure you'll teach me a thing or two!
Aculias: Thanks for you kind words. Your a better friend then I am.
jiels (is glad)
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted February 03, 2002 12:51 PM |
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goosh
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted February 03, 2002 01:29 PM |
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I'm in the random club too? well thats true enough. Rules are made on randoms to compensate for the generator. Plus I think the people who regularly play randoms have a certain different skill. You cant play randoms the same way as a "made" map. Anyway that has all talked about before blah blah
Btw thanks for the compliment Jiels. As you can see though, everyone has their own take on this.
Rychen(enjoyingthesoapopera)roller
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Mocara
Famous Hero
what?
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posted February 03, 2002 01:51 PM |
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"You tell me in a game that you are going to get Andi kicked out of the HC because of his zone behaviour and a month later it happens. I agree his zone behviour was bad, but he also did a good job."
Lets get this part straight Jiels.
First off you told me some things in that game also which I will not violate the trust and share here.
But I believe you are misquoting me here.
Not only that but you are taking something out of context. Out of privacy and putting it in a public forum and something that is hurtful.
I don't mind debating the game but I think this is pretty low.
I could do the same to you but I won't stoop to that.
Good job man.
-Mocara
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andiangelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted February 03, 2002 02:04 PM |
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noone kicked me out of HC, i left myself
and please noone start a discussion about that now, coz as i said im not part of this lame talking anymore
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jiels
Adventuring Hero
LFM C'thun, pst.
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posted February 03, 2002 02:56 PM |
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Andi: I apologize and won't say another word about it. I should have talked to you first before I posted that. It is none of my business after all and I'm just an idiot.(as I keep saying and showing)
Mocara:
Well, what would you like me to do about it? I said it. No excuses, I accept my responsibility. I reap what I sow.
We both said a lot of things that night, yep. But feel free to share what I said. I won't mind. Yes, I said some things that may offend or hurt others but it's true and if they don't like that then *shrug* what can I do? I know people's opinions of me has certainly sunk tonight so, what's a little more? This heroes addiction has cost me more then I have gained, so I really don't mind if you want to ruin me. You are pretty good at it after all.
*sigh* Like I said; I had a good game with you and thought you were nice, kind, thoughtful, intelligent and tolerant. And then I see you being the opposite of all this! You became someone else in the zone and here in the message board. Provoking people in the zone, making fun of people here and the new forum. I was ashamed, to have defended you to my friends and recommending you as a good guy to play, when you started acting like a jerk.
You say that all this public stuff is a game?(see his post in the Mo+Pro thread) Then let's go; here and now. No rules, anything goes, last man standing/posting wins. It's not really a game if only one person knows they are playing. Is it? Next time you want to play games go to the tavern and join in with the other game players over there. Don't start something with others when they don't know the rules, people just wind up getting hurt.
Like I said, I don't know what to do. This has gone too far. I crossed a line and nothing I can do will make up for it. You can't turn back time. That's life. :-(
jiels (life sucks sometimes)
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bjorn190
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted February 03, 2002 03:19 PM |
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Hej Jiels.. itīs not so bad
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*sigh* Like I said; I had a good game with you and thought you were nice, kind, thoughtful, intelligent and tolerant. And then I see you being the opposite of all this! You became someone else in the zone and here in the message board. Provoking people in the zone, making fun of people here and the new forum. I was ashamed, to have defended you to my friends and recommending you as a good guy to play, when you started acting like a jerk.
jiels (life sucks sometimes)
Jiels.. u seem alittle like a split person. Sometimes you are mad and post in anger, and then you feel bad and regret it. I promise I will forgive you every time.
My advice is that when you are mad and want to post something bad, write it down somewhere else, maybe on a piece of paper, or wait a while first, since you might think different alittle later. Then if you still want to post it, do that. But that will help with not getting the worst stuff out.
Mocara is.. Mocara =) Sharp wits, sharp tounge and stops at nothing. A nice guy deep down with thornes, and veiws similar to my own. You donīt have to worry about telling your friends heīs a good guy, because he is. Itīs true.
Me.. I am bjorn190. The best heroes player ever 
And this.. yes itīs a game, as life is a game. You can play it any way you want, but you canīt take the edge of the knife.
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jiels
Adventuring Hero
LFM C'thun, pst.
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posted February 03, 2002 03:47 PM |
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Bjorn190 how did you get so wise?
As for myself, I'm not perfect and I have problems just like everyone else. I've heard twice tonight that I'm not consistent and that I change my mind a lot. Well, to that I say: I'm a grey person who tries to have an open mind. If you can show me that I am wrong or if I realize that I am wrong, I'll change my mind or at least try to. If I lose respect for that, so be it.
Good advice Bjorn190, I'll try that next time. I'm tired of all this. I react with my heart to often.
Errr, and I can be angry and sad at the same time? Because I was in this whole situation. Seeing someone you held in esteem doing something dumb is a heartwrenching experience.(subtext here: I care about people, yes, even you Mo)
jiels (thinks Bjorn190 is far too nice, but appreciates it a lot!)
ps: Was that last line from a limp Bizkit song?
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andiangelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted February 03, 2002 03:59 PM |
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np jiels, i just wanted to say i left myself and that i dont wanna discuss with some people anymore, you are not 1 of them we can talk on blastard board hehe
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted February 03, 2002 07:28 PM |
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the facts
Andi did a wonderful job in the HC, and in fact, was the most active in this past season. He left HC on his own, was not 'kicked out'. His only problem is that he is a bit outspoken on the zone.
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Mocara
Famous Hero
what?
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posted February 04, 2002 08:14 AM |
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I agree about Andi.
I wanted to defend myself on that accusation last night but I do not want to dwell on anything negative in regards to Andi and HC.
He did a job well for a long time.
He did it for free and we all benefitted from that so that is all I need say about Andi's job on HC.
As for you Jiels, don't take it so hard.
An intelligent person is tortured because they can see all sides of issues.
I know all too well the feeling of being inconsistent.
I can see all sides of an issue same as you.
You should see some of the flames I have written on here.
I just do not hit 'submit' after I type them. =)
Thanks for the props Bjorn. It's good to know someone understands what I'm about.
-Mocara
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jiels
Adventuring Hero
LFM C'thun, pst.
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posted February 04, 2002 10:14 AM |
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As for you Jiels, don't take it so hard.
An intelligent person is tortured because they can see all sides of issues.
I know all too well the feeling of being inconsistent.
I can see all sides of an issue same as you.
Hey, now that I know it's just a "game" I can have a little more fun and be a bit meaner, since you won't mind.
Am I right or wrong Mocara? The point I keep making is that this whole charade is a result of someone who is two faced. Someone who says one thing and then does another.
I am ashamed that I ever thought you were a friend when you constantly provoke others (myself included) and make fun of others when you don't have the guts(ironic, huh?) to answer questions with proof, examples and reasoning.
This post is more of your ever so pretty rhetoric. Wow, looks good but tastes like crap.
Come on Mo, nothing is sadder then a man who runs away from the fight.
Why did you flame Kitten Angel in the other forum?(Online players?!Hit and Run?)
Why did you flame Motor in the unwritten rules thread? (it wasn't even about "rules")
Why did you antagonize Andi and Motor in the zone and then run away when they asked you to put up or shut up?
(Oh that's right, you shut up and left. lol)
Why don't you ever return my phone calls? (sob, sob)
Quick Mo, over there! There's someone who's hosting a table with rules, better lecture him to death before he starts to have fun! (wow, satire is fun)
jiels (pre-emptive strike)
Oh and here is my disclaimer since they are oh so trendy these days. No harm is meant, it's all a fun game. Unless your Mocara of course.
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Mocara
Famous Hero
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posted February 04, 2002 09:40 PM |
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What you don't seem to get is you aren't Andi's dad.
You aren't Motor's dad and you aren't needed to change their diapers.
We have long since debated w/o any need for moderation and quite frankly I find debating with some wanna be intellectual like yourself boring.
I like Andi and Moto's down and dirty style of fun debate.
While you seem to think you can play upon the sympathies of the people who I have bashed in this forum and create a crusade against me all you have shown is these people who I debate with all have more class then you gave them credit for.
They are big boys who can handle themselves and your anger and pseudo-intellectual putdowns are not only hollow but boring as they are backed up by a truly skilless player.
Remember when I played you and you sat in your corner and whined the whole game?
Well before you start trying to debate on the level of Andi, Motor or Jinxer maybe you might want to master the game a bit as they obviously have.
Maybe this might give you more credibility then bring up classic literature in a forum about a game Mr Gulliver's Travels =P
Please keep flaming. I won't engage you on your angry non-sensical "points". But I will continue to laugh at them and then feel sorry for you when you break down once a day with the "I was tired and now noone likes me." posts.
Good entertainment.
-Mocara
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Phantom1500
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 04, 2002 11:24 PM |
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LOL man this is mighty funny stuff. Mocara that was hillarious, i don't know how the kid can respond to that. The thing is, how come every thread in Community always turns into the Guiding Light or Days of Our Lives. Isn't this called rules vs skill, so being utterly dissapointed and bored with all the threads I clicked to find out what is going on. Boom just a new season of the same soap opera.
I guess this game has just been taking to it's limit and there is nothing left in it to talk about.
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Mad_Unicorn
Famous Hero
I am a mean person shame on me
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posted February 05, 2002 02:42 AM |
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HC soaps
HC soap operas are for heroes players and heroes players alone. I hate rous's soaps she watches bleh "omg mr. chriogenic man came to life only to fall down a botomless pit?" its very dumb funny. HC soaps are just plain funny and u can put your oppinions up to get bashed which makes you an intergral part of the soap.
Its fun watching but its better participatings <---applies to many things
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Mocara
Famous Hero
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posted February 05, 2002 03:41 AM |
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You guys hit it RIGHT on the head.
It was really fun for everyone to try to make clan finals and as soon as the clan activity fell off then everyone got bored.
Then what?
Then the new game of HC bashing.
Maybe its subconscious but I do think that is it.
After all why would we pick now? A few weeks before the death of H3 to start furiously debating like this?
I was talking with my wife about it tonight while we were at dinner and I told her the exact same thing.
I think maybe Jiels is over the edge or something but everyone else is just killing time til H4.
-Mocara
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wiggy_wam
Promising
Famous Hero
local pirate
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posted February 06, 2002 07:42 PM |
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noone kicked me out of HC, i left myself
and please noone start a discussion about that now, coz as i said im not part of this lame talking anymore
DAMN! that sux! For 2 reasons:
1- I'm on the list of potential volunteers for next season, and if I end up on the H.Council, I'd like Andi on my team, an experienced player I can trust.
2- I like Andi even though we disagree on various HoMM things, and I don't think I know any of the other HC members.
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- wiggy ... who has a crush on Rob's models. Well ... the ones his age (18-26) 
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Mocara
Famous Hero
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posted February 06, 2002 10:34 PM |
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You know Prometheus, DETH8 and Tim554.
All good and fair people who are on HC for H4.
With you on it too it would be even better.
-Mocara
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pepeviejo
Adventuring Hero
Protecting sheep + baby ducks
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posted June 07, 2002 12:17 PM |
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Rules are good sometimes because they can provide a fresh challenge which could possibly unlock some of your hidden skills.
No rules can be cool too.
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