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Dave_Jame
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted February 05, 2011 03:50 PM |
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@Kodial79
Well I was more thinking of not making a "Look something that is not a Vampire but fills exactly the sma purpes". But smothing new to the line up. I dont thin vampires have to be in a Necro lineup. they can act as heroes. They are the Undeath aristocracy.
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We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
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SBlister
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Rakshasa Commander
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posted February 05, 2011 04:18 PM |
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i'd say vampire and skeleton cuz they've appeared in every Heroes gave except HOMM 1.
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted February 06, 2011 12:22 AM |
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ok boyz and girlz, first of all i will appreciate if you also come up with 3 creatures per faction, so we will see if your opinion REALLY differs from mine.. try to do it with description as i did..
secondly..
@ Danny
Griffin - I think i pretty much explained why Griffin, should be there! imagine Griffin Empire without Griffins ... it's not logical.. or even fighting against Griffins in other faction??? no that won't do..
Angels - Haven faction with Priests and Paladins should have Angels in their line up.. If you think someone deserves it more than Archangels, please tell me, i would love to know..
Vampires - you see even you imagine Vampires first whenever you hear Necro-faction.. how can they not be one of 3 most essential creatures..
Orcs - i 100% disagree on your comment on this one.. according to the way you judge things Dark Elves are essential to Dungeon now??? wrong , wrong.. take into concideration the whole picture (Homm1-Homm6) not only starting from HoMM5, Ubi created New Universe, but they did not Reboot the game entirely..
Trolls - the same as above..
@ Maken
I'd say they are equal 
@ Nighterror
Well you see Juggernaut as a New creature, i see it as a same Horned Demon, a bit overpowered though
@ DaveJame
Sorry my friend but Vampires are irreplaceable!!!
@ Almost everyone 
Death Knight - i should agree that maybe it's just me.. but i think it is an incredible unit, which represents necromancers the best!
...why?
will try to explain.. I think it's the core meaning of Necro-Faction-Undeads, a Fallen Knight, a Paladin, Defender of Empire and Light, is now risen as a Death Knight.. how dramatic is that.. what a tragic fate.. and even amongst Necromancers he is an somehow outcast.. Death Knight looks like a Hero unit, rather then just a undead creature.. He is intelligent and dangerous unit.. Unlike liches for example who were studying dark magic and necromancy, Dark Knights were a Noble Paladins before.. It is an incredible creature, i don't know why you guys don't see him as a part of Necro-Fundamental creatures...
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Dave_Jame
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Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted February 06, 2011 11:39 AM |
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@DakrLord
I Think nothing is 100% nescesary. Maybe, but just Maybe, I can convince you when I finish my Ideas
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radox
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posted February 06, 2011 12:27 PM |
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i just thought of an idea that some units simply can not be cut down from series.. it is just wrong, as they are the face of the faction.. let's say the main representatives..
as when you think about this creature a certain faction comes to mind immediately..
so i will make a list of 3 most important and influential creatures per each faction and whether they are present in HoMM6 or not..
I completely agree with you! They completely screwed it up this time by removing Minotaurs, ALL the dragons, Hydras, Medusas, Monks, Devils, Mages, Golems... THESE ARE CREATURES YOU SIMPLY DO NOT REMOVE!!!
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted February 06, 2011 12:31 PM |
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i just thought of an idea that some units simply can not be cut down from series.. it is just wrong, as they are the face of the faction.. let's say the main representatives..
as when you think about this creature a certain faction comes to mind immediately..
so i will make a list of 3 most important and influential creatures per each faction and whether they are present in HoMM6 or not..
I completely agree with you! They completely screwed it up this time by removing Minotaurs, ALL the dragons, Hydras, Medusas, Monks, Devils, Mages, Golems... THESE ARE CREATURES YOU SIMPLY DO NOT REMOVE!!!
Did H5 have Orcs, Goblins, Centaurs, Cyclopes, Wyverns and Dwarves?
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Valen-Teen
Famous Hero
UFOlolOgist
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posted February 06, 2011 01:15 PM |
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No reason to cry.
Wait for add-on and pray that elves and mages would come back for playing.
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Warlord
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Lord of Image Spam
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posted February 06, 2011 02:04 PM |
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i just thought of an idea that some units simply can not be cut down from series.. it is just wrong, as they are the face of the faction.. let's say the main representatives..
as when you think about this creature a certain faction comes to mind immediately..
so i will make a list of 3 most important and influential creatures per each faction and whether they are present in HoMM6 or not..
I completely agree with you! They completely screwed it up this time by removing Minotaurs, ALL the dragons, Hydras, Medusas, Monks, Devils, Mages, Golems... THESE ARE CREATURES YOU SIMPLY DO NOT REMOVE!!!
So you want an exact copy of H3 with better graphics?
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted February 06, 2011 03:21 PM |
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So you want an exact copy of H3 with better graphics?
No it's not about H3 copy, but it's about some Essential creatures!
I am more than happy to see new creatures (example Lamasu, Fate Spinner) or redesigned "somehow newish"(exmple Praetorian, Dreamwalker), but i don't want the most iconic creatures for each faction to be forgotten (example Black Dragon, Titan, Minotaur, Genie etc.)
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted February 06, 2011 03:37 PM |
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So you want an exact copy of H3 with better graphics?
No it's not about H3 copy, but it's about some Essential creatures!
I am more than happy to see new creatures (example Lamasu, Fate Spinner) or redesigned "somehow newish"(exmple Praetorian, Dreamwalker), but i don't want the most iconic creatures for each faction to be forgotten (example Black Dragon, Titan, Minotaur, Genie etc.)
Most of them are going to return in expansions.
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SkrentyzMienty
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posted February 06, 2011 04:53 PM |
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So you want an exact copy of H3 with better graphics?
No it's not about H3 copy, but it's about some Essential creatures!
I am more than happy to see new creatures (example Lamasu, Fate Spinner) or redesigned "somehow newish"(exmple Praetorian, Dreamwalker), but i don't want the most iconic creatures for each faction to be forgotten (example Black Dragon, Titan, Minotaur, Genie etc.)
Most of them are going to return in expansions.
Hopefully, but look at how many are already lost for sure:
Inferno with no Efreet, Imp, or Nightmare...
Necropolis with no Bone Dragon, Mummy, or Deathknight...
Stronghold with no Wyvern, Roc/Thunderbird, or Behemoth...
I also think that the Breeder in Inferno should have simply been the awesome Venom Spawn!
This seriously sucks 
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Wckey
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posted February 06, 2011 07:33 PM |
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Hopefully, but look at how many are already lost for sure:
Inferno with no Efreet, Imp, or Nightmare...
Necropolis with no Bone Dragon, Mummy, or Deathknight...
Stronghold with no Wyvern, Roc/Thunderbird, or Behemoth...
I also think that the Breeder in Inferno should have simply been the awesome Venom Spawn!
This seriously sucks
Good thing there are different tastes 
We can still see Mummy and Deathknight - Mummy was an neutral since heroes 3 and Deathknight was a neutral in H5.
Bone Dragon wont be missed, but who knows if we don't see him in the future (even if he will not be a Boss in H6 vanilla, it can be in another expansion).
But personally, I will only miss Roc and Nightmare.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted February 06, 2011 07:40 PM |
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I'm cool with most of the in-game models I've seen thus far,
with the exception of a few.
Also, I'm well aware that the quality may be due to how difficult it is to render particle effects in flash.
Standing in for the Sister is the Sister's sickly cousin.
You'd think that being a HEALER of Elrath, the dragon of LIGHT, would make one look a little... healthier.
How is it that transparent creatures set against a dark background always tend to look like crap?
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted February 06, 2011 07:44 PM |
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Am I or the sister's looks is arrogant?
Indian Lamasu rules
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted February 06, 2011 07:55 PM |
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I'd gladly fall for the Succubus's trap any day of the week. 
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Wckey
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posted February 06, 2011 08:04 PM |
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The best way to compare creatures in-game and the site models is to look at the screenshot with ghoul, tormentor and the crazy demon and compare them to their models in the website.
Also, a funny thing: did you see the Mauler model? The creature is obviously a Mauler, but the shield and the weapon are both taken from the upgrade one (the Crusher)
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted February 06, 2011 08:22 PM |
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lol ... Indian Lamasu indead rules! 
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 06, 2011 09:49 PM |
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im so mad they made the lamasu into a guy xDD
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Over himself, over his own
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted February 06, 2011 11:38 PM |
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I have stayed in a "non-complaining state" for a while now, but when I look upon the ghoul I can't help myself. 
Seriously why do their eyes have to GLOW?!
They are supposed to be undead, can't they give us an impression of death with cold dark eyes....
That would fit so much better visually in my opinion.
@Nightterror
Where is your face??? 
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted February 06, 2011 11:53 PM |
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Compare to the Ghoul from Dark Messiah. Not a lot of flashy gadgetry (or eyes) there.
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