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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted February 06, 2011 11:57 PM |
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The one from Dark Messiah is thousand times more awesome. (As is almost everything in that legendary game)
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"You turn me on Jaba"
- Meroe
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2011 09:14 AM |
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Edited by Danny at 09:15, 07 Feb 2011.
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Quote: Orcs - i 100% disagree on your comment on this one.. according to the way you judge things Dark Elves are essential to Dungeon now??? wrong , wrong.. take into concideration the whole picture (Homm1-Homm6) not only starting from HoMM5, Ubi created New Universe, but they did not Reboot the game entirely..
Actually the thing is, there's no whole picture anymore, it IS a reboot. So yeah, Dark Elves are essential to Dungeon because it's their town now. They are using creatures, factions and stuff from old games to let people know this is still the Heroes they love and they don't want to lose old fans, but in terms of factions, you can say it is indeed a reboot. Because now the race comes first, not the town itself. There are some nods to older games, like now Harpy going back to Stronghold like it was in H4, or how Academy is a copy of the H3 incarnation without the Naga but I guess there's no such thing as essential now...
I don't like how the Lamasu has the old hag face.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted February 07, 2011 09:50 AM |
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Reboot? They've even retconned the title of the previous game
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted February 07, 2011 10:20 AM |
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HoMMV was the reboot, not HoMMVI...
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Zeki
Supreme Hero
sup
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posted February 07, 2011 03:14 PM |
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Edited by Zeki at 15:18, 07 Feb 2011.
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Quote: I don't like how the Lamasu has the old hag face.
What do you have against the old hag face?
I think it's good like its done now. I mean, first the Lamasu is dead and when you're dead you don't look like 20 and second the Lamasu is an failed experiment, so this is another reason why the Lamasu looks like this
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evinin
Supreme Hero
Servant of Asha
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posted February 07, 2011 04:51 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: I don't like how the Lamasu has the old hag face.
What do you have against the old hag face?
I think it's good like its done now. I mean, first the Lamasu is dead and when you're dead you don't look like 20 and second the Lamasu is an failed experiment, so this is another reason why the Lamasu looks like this
Well, not all females are beautiful... And also the Lamasu should be evil, gorgeous and badass and it is. There are enough other females in the game that are good-looking. (yes, Breeder...)
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted February 07, 2011 04:59 PM |
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Quote: Reboot? They've even retconned the title of the previous game
It was actually called that way in some regions so it isn't really a retcon.
Only Europe and some other parts used old name version for H5 due to fan protest.
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted February 07, 2011 05:42 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: Orcs - i 100% disagree on your comment on this one.. according to the way you judge things Dark Elves are essential to Dungeon now??? wrong , wrong.. take into concideration the whole picture (Homm1-Homm6) not only starting from HoMM5, Ubi created New Universe, but they did not Reboot the game entirely..
Actually the thing is, there's no whole picture anymore, it IS a reboot. So yeah, Dark Elves are essential to Dungeon because it's their town now. They are using creatures, factions and stuff from old games to let people know this is still the Heroes they love and they don't want to lose old fans, but in terms of factions, you can say it is indeed a reboot. Because now the race comes first, not the town itself. There are some nods to older games, like now Harpy going back to Stronghold like it was in H4, or how Academy is a copy of the H3 incarnation without the Naga but I guess there's no such thing as essential now...
Unfortunately will have to disagree with you again! Explaining..
In terms of factions HoMM4 was more of a "Reboot" than HoMM5, but no one is calling that so.. in HoMM5 while some races really changed, like Stronghold going to Orcs, Dungeon to Dark Elves, or Fortress changing entirely, there were still "copies" from old games (HoMM3 in particular) like Haven, Academy, Necropolis.. In terms of gameplay exept initiative and skill system everything remained exactly the same!
You are saying that they "don't want to lose old fans", but i will put it the way that "they are trying to gain new fans".. and Reboot is not only factions and lore, but gameplay mechanics, skill system and literally everything or majority of the things..
BUT what i am afraid of that Heroes6 can really become a Reboot! and it's quite a risky thing, cuz if the game fails, it may mean death of HoMM series, and THAT is scary!!! Can't say now, will have to see when the game is released.. and i pray that dev's will do a great job and everyone will love new Heroes6..! let's hope for better!!!
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2011 06:01 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: I don't like how the Lamasu has the old hag face.
What do you have against the old hag face?
I think it's good like its done now. I mean, first the Lamasu is dead and when you're dead you don't look like 20 and second the Lamasu is an failed experiment, so this is another reason why the Lamasu looks like this
Yeah I get that, I meant I preferred the way it looks on the artwork. But on the catapult screenshot it looks good anyway.
DarkLord: you're going in circles. It doesn't matter that H5-6 has the exact same game mechanics, in terms of storyline and universe, it is a reboot, whether you like it or not. Like I said, if they are copying from old games it's just not to alienate fans who've known Heroes before 2006. It's their right to say Dungeon belongs to Dark Elves now, and it's also their right to release a game like H6 that (most likely) doesn't have Unicorn, Hydra, Black Dragon, Elven Archer, Gargoyle etc.
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2011 06:56 PM |
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Quote: It's their right to say Dungeon belongs to Dark Elves now, and it's also their right to release a game like H6 that (most likely) doesn't have Unicorn, Hydra, Black Dragon, Elven Archer, Gargoyle etc.
...which sucks
Not to mention tens of other great creatures...
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted February 07, 2011 06:59 PM |
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Quote:
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Quote: I don't like how the Lamasu has the old hag face.
What do you have against the old hag face?
I think it's good like its done now. I mean, first the Lamasu is dead and when you're dead you don't look like 20 and second the Lamasu is an failed experiment, so this is another reason why the Lamasu looks like this
Yeah I get that, I meant I preferred the way it looks on the artwork. But on the catapult screenshot it looks good anyway.
DarkLord: you're going in circles. It doesn't matter that H5-6 has the exact same game mechanics, in terms of storyline and universe, it is a reboot, whether you like it or not. Like I said, if they are copying from old games it's just not to alienate fans who've known Heroes before 2006. It's their right to say Dungeon belongs to Dark Elves now, and it's also their right to release a game like H6 that (most likely) doesn't have Unicorn, Hydra, Black Dragon, Elven Archer, Gargoyle etc.
I guess you didn't really read my last reply, but it's OK!
our opinion here differs with mine, so.. well.. i hope it's going to be a good game, you should agree with me at least in this one..
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Paiazza
Known Hero
لىخ ضل
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posted February 08, 2011 08:59 AM |
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Edited by Paiazza at 09:01, 08 Feb 2011.
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Don't you want some H3 Fortress?
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted February 08, 2011 09:05 AM |
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Unless they turn it into Lizardman faction, heck yes!
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted February 08, 2011 09:35 AM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 09:36, 08 Feb 2011.
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Quote: Unless they turn it into Lizardman faction, heck yes!
You have any doubts that they won't?
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted February 08, 2011 09:40 AM |
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Quote: If they turn it into Lizardman faction, heck yes!
Fixed.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted February 08, 2011 09:54 AM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 09:56, 08 Feb 2011.
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Man, they must be really intent on turning the franchise into Warhammercraft light
Edit: I miss H3 Dungeon
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted February 08, 2011 10:02 AM |
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Edited by kodial79 at 10:03, 08 Feb 2011.
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Don't you think that this is what NWC also did by creating blueskinned, finned lizardmen archers? Even though if they were just one unit...
Now, for the first time, they don't seem to be copying anymore any of these games. So, rejoice!
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted February 08, 2011 10:17 AM |
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Quote: Now, for the first time, they don't seem to be copying anymore any of these games. So, rejoice!
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted February 08, 2011 10:19 AM |
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What's this from?
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted February 08, 2011 10:36 AM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 10:36, 08 Feb 2011.
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Quote: What's this from?
Serious Sam 2. Not as good as the first two games but still a lot of fun.
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