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MattII
MattII


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posted November 29, 2010 10:54 AM

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However these in H6 are not angels, but Seraphs so I'm not that "caring", but they were really cool in H3...
Yeah right, Seraphs, Angels, what's the big difference? A new name does not a new unit make, it's still an angel no matter that they say.

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xerox
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posted November 29, 2010 11:17 AM

I believe there is some heavy Angel lore in H6.
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admira
admira


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posted November 29, 2010 12:37 PM

@Xerox: Yup, but heavy lore doesn't deny the fact that the Angel (or Seraph or whatever its name will be) design is not appeal to many people and as for my personal opinion, it is not as majestic as the other champions revealed.



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Anwen
Anwen

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Elven Blade Dancer
posted November 29, 2010 03:23 PM
Edited by Anwen at 15:23, 29 Nov 2010.

I like the design for this angel, love the hood and robe which are similar to the H5 angel. The armor on the wings looks a bit silly especially since it's so round. Dual wielding swords looks really cool but would look even better if the two swords where the same.

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SwampLord
SwampLord


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posted November 29, 2010 05:32 PM

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@Xerox: Yup, but heavy lore doesn't deny the fact that the Angel (or Seraph or whatever its name will be) design is not appeal to many people and as for my personal opinion, it is not as majestic as the other champions revealed.





In my opinion, it's every bit as impressive as the Pit Lord and Fate Weaver. We can't really comment until we've seen the ingame models, anyways; I'm thinking that the Seraph will be far larger ingame than it looks in the art.
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Agent_00_BLeRD
Agent_00_BLeRD


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posted November 29, 2010 05:40 PM
Edited by Agent_00_BLeRD at 17:41, 29 Nov 2010.

Can someone with good photoshop skill modify the seraph's picture so it holds ONE double bladed sword with one blade red and the other one blue?

Something like what Darth Maul (centre guy) is holding in this?




I'd like to see what it looks like but I think it just might solve the two swords and no dual wield issue in one blow.

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Maken
Maken


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posted November 29, 2010 06:28 PM

Maybe the pit fiend could just steal the red sword and everybody will be happy

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admira
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posted November 30, 2010 03:37 AM

@SwampLord: Maybe it is just me, maybe the problem because Seraph is female angel. But OK, I'll try to innovate. Let's stick with female angel. But here is the entry from wiki about Seraph:

Literally "burning ones", the word is normally a synonym for serpents when used in the Hebrew bible, but they are mentioned in the Book of Isaiah as fiery six-winged beings attending on God.

When I Googling for pictures of Seraph, the top pictures is this. Still the Female Seraph and Six-Winged:


I like the art more than the current Seraph. Personally I like because it has smaller "skirt" (the current seraph is wearing some dancing medieval party dress), it has six wings. But try to innovate more, just combine the "Blazing Effect" on Blazing Glory or Radiant Glory into her. Maybe the wing is half-transparent with burning effects. Now change the weapon into "Michael's Sword" I like the sword in this picture:


You can dual wield if you like or simply a two-hand style.

Lastly, please change the "GLory", it seems like out of place. I mean, if you need some "Heaven" creature maybe you can try to modify Cherub in replacement of Glories. Let's say a Lion? I mean a description in Cherub in Wiki entry stated:

There were no cherubim in Herodian reconstruction of the Temple, but according to some authorities, its walls were painted with figures of cherubim. In Christian art they are often represented with the faces of a lion, ox, eagle, and man peering out from the center of an array of four wings

Maybe a Humanoid-Lion-Headed will be out of place, but you can simply replace it with some spiritual Lion, maybe a white haired Lion for basic creature and a spiritual-ghostly Lion with Tyrael of Diablo style Wing as an upgrade would work and IMHO will look better compares with the naked lady. There are White Lions in the real life and Lion are used in many monarch symbols that might represent this "Duchy" stuff.



Seriously, Haven line-ups need a lot of make-over but honestly, all is just my personal Opinion and I only try to state how would I innovate the current line-ups.

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jabanoss
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posted November 30, 2010 12:07 PM
Edited by jabanoss at 12:10, 30 Nov 2010.

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However these in H6 are not angels, but Seraphs so I'm not that "caring", but they were really cool in H3...
Yeah right, Seraphs, Angels, what's the big difference? A new name does not a new unit make, it's still an angel no matter that they say.

Absolutely, but since there obviously are differences between the angels of H3 and H5 to the seraphs of H6 then it is safe to say that the names indeed do make the difference. I mean if the seraphs were called angels/arch angels then I could go on about how angels don't wield two swords or whatever, but since it is seraph now I cant really do that because the developers have not yet put the standard of how a seraph is supposed to be. So in that sense names are a big difference.
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BoeserLich
BoeserLich


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posted November 30, 2010 03:28 PM

The angel looks a bit as if it has been shrinked and that just the head looks out of a much to big armor. If u imagine the head a bit bigger the artwork doesnt look that bad and the armor, wings and swords are not that oversized.

I also like the idea of an seraphim with 4 or 6 wings. This would be a nice idea for the upgraded version.

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evinin
evinin


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Servant of Asha
posted November 30, 2010 03:49 PM

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I also like the idea of an seraphim with 4 or 6 wings. This would be a nice idea for the upgraded version.



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Agent_00_BLeRD
Agent_00_BLeRD


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posted November 30, 2010 08:18 PM

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I also like the idea of an seraphim with 4 or 6 wings. This would be a nice idea for the upgraded version.






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SwampLord
SwampLord


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posted November 30, 2010 09:10 PM

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The angel looks a bit as if it has been shrinked and that just the head looks out of a much to big armor. If u imagine the head a bit bigger the artwork doesnt look that bad and the armor, wings and swords are not that oversized.

I also like the idea of an seraphim with 4 or 6 wings. This would be a nice idea for the upgraded version.


It's also important to keep in mind that the concept art for the Seraph is very "zoomed out"; I think it will look much larger ingame.
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Aatos
Aatos


Adventuring Hero
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posted November 30, 2010 10:03 PM

I think that they cannot get to close to real religion when making a computer game creature. I'm not sure. I think it's better if they invent something new. Like a warrior made out of light who can teleport perhaps. Or just an ordinary warrior with a light theme and good looking armor and a weapon. For example his sword arm is made out of light or it's on fire or something like that, just making suggestions.
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Agent_00_BLeRD
Agent_00_BLeRD


Adventuring Hero
posted December 14, 2010 07:53 PM

Now THIS is an angel I would want to have as a champion in Haven...



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Adrius
Adrius


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Stand and fight!
posted December 14, 2010 07:55 PM

True, that one is badass as ****.

He even wears those Wingguards with style.
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boeserlich
boeserlich


Hired Hero
posted December 14, 2010 08:12 PM

This angel is amazing. Looks like a combination of the H4 Angel and the Seraphim. Not to overdone, not to boring.

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evinin
evinin


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Servant of Asha
posted December 14, 2010 08:13 PM

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Where did that picture come from? That is the best seraphin ever!


Actually, an Archangel. The strongest archangel that is. Probably the Haven boss.
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Cepheus
Cepheus


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posted December 14, 2010 08:14 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 20:15, 14 Dec 2010.

That is genuine H6 artwork. I have no idea how or where the image got released publicly. Perhaps someone misposted it to the Facebook page earlier and removed it too late.

Anyway, might as well give feedback on it. I hope he makes up for the Celestial
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Meskyn
Meskyn


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posted December 14, 2010 09:19 PM

denumirea de sub imagine: "arcangel"????
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