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veco
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posted September 30, 2013 08:29 PM

Azagal said:
Also Dagoth is a total slouch he doesn't belong in G5 with the scrubs wtf.

That's harsh man


But we're still on our exodus out of bronze, breezing through silver and still haven't shown any signs of slowing down
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Azagal
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posted September 30, 2013 08:34 PM

lol you don't belong there either. Only reason you two clowns are still down there is cause you don't yoloque much. Not that I blame you I don't do much either.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted September 30, 2013 08:34 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 20:35, 30 Sep 2013.

I meant the feel of the game, but seriously the game has changed, for example, remember when it used to be APs top Adcs mid and god knows what was bot, (some bruiser cluster****) and no supports, ah the good old days.(for me this is pretty significant, meta changes always are)
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Azagal
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posted September 30, 2013 08:46 PM

You're talking about pre-season 1 meta, that's 3 seasons worth of changes. That's more than "from season to season".
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posted September 30, 2013 08:46 PM
Edited by veco at 20:47, 30 Sep 2013.

What pisses me off most is the amount of kids instantly checking out my stats and winrates on nerd sites as soon as the bans begin.

That being said today one of those kids helped me talk down some other guy who was dead set on taking adc.
"Let him take graves man he has a 75% winrate"
HA!


but I still hate you nerdy kid.

PS: I wouldn't really mind playing something else but I hate myself every time my duo friend gets stuck on support with someone who can't read the lane. And it was his promotion game
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posted September 30, 2013 08:51 PM

Or an insane lulu... that goes 0-6-1 during laning. That'd just suck.
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posted September 30, 2013 08:56 PM

Totally.

I would have phreak on the hotline making sure the guy and five generations of his descendants never play a multiplayer game in their lifetime.


But 0-6-1 Lulu don't exist man, they're just legends from the realms of bronze 5
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posted September 30, 2013 09:03 PM

You're right she was actually 1-6-0 due to q sniping elise. Immediately fed red back to cait though. Kind of support we all want in our game.
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posted September 30, 2013 09:10 PM

Damn, I sound like I didn't die 10 times that game
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posted October 06, 2013 09:33 AM

hate these games, they are too stupid in their content
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted October 06, 2013 10:42 AM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 10:56, 06 Oct 2013.

Only started playing Ranked seriously since Season 2, before that it was just some place that I need not to know about, plus the invisible elo and ranking didn't really appeal to me (that was still present in Season 2 but I just gave it a go for lulz). Anyway, after moving to EU I crawled from Silver 5 and fought my way through 4 tiers, it was pure agony. Plus I had like 6 consecutive losses in S2 (when I had 0 LP) I was dreading falling back again, then I had a win streak and flawlessly moved on to S1 thanks to Corki and Cait.

As soon as I got to Silver 1 I won two games, got 20lp for each, then something funky happened and I began winning and losing anything around 5lp, this is pure agony, the only good thing is that I lose around the same LP. It seems like at every tier of Silver I need to hard carry one of the roles, for example from 5-4 it was just mix, I took what I got and didn't complain (jungle and support mostly), S3 it was Jungle, my hecarim and malphite, S2 was adcs Corki or Cait, and in S1 my adcs seem worthless and my jungle marred, so now in S1 my APCs seem especially strong.

Kass game.

Before that I had an 11/1 Ahri game, but even with such sexy scores they usually turn into somewhat "hard" fought battles, since some of the enemies were almost as fed as me.
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posted October 06, 2013 11:31 AM

Quote:
As soon as I got to Silver 1 I won two games, got 20lp for each, then something funky happened and I began winning and losing anything around 5lp, this is pure agony,

It means that your hidden MMR matches the league you are currently in so the system evens up points for winning and losing to keep you there.
It sucks and I dread the day
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted October 06, 2013 11:51 AM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 12:39, 06 Oct 2013.

I thought it was that, but it can't be cause I got significant LP when I joined the league, now I'm just hopping around 40lp, the only thing that it could be is game time. (as in the longer the game the less LP you get?)

Just lost two games, medium length (30-40min) -4 lp each, TT
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posted October 06, 2013 12:52 PM
Edited by Azagal at 12:55, 06 Oct 2013.

Quote:
Since tier upgrades are permanent in the League System, you have to demonstrate you can maintain a higher level of play before the system will allow you to start a Promotion Series. In rare instances, this means that your LP earnings will be normalized until you meet this bar, so you may need to win a few more matches to trigger your Promotion Series.

Taken from their official website. Unless your hidden mmr is crazy high in comparison to your current standings you do not breeze through tier 1 of any division.

Also all I see in that Kass build is no tear or catalyst or voidstaff or zhonyas.
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posted October 06, 2013 01:40 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 13:49, 06 Oct 2013.

None of those were necessary, I tend to avoid zhonyas unless their team comp is massive aoe burst, tear and catalyst are unnecessary unless you ult around like a fool. In laning I just use W to replenish any lost 'harass' mana. Most APCs I fight tend to be good pushers so I can auto attack the minions at will without worry of over pushing my lane, even if this is not the case last hitting minions still gives me back a decent amount of mana. (plus void staff was going to be my final item, I do not prioritize it because you don't really need it unless they're packing serious mr)

This is my revised Kass build, and it has served me remarkably well. (The randuin's was a situational item, and abyssal scepter too, but it's an extremely good item so I might put into my build more often)
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posted October 06, 2013 01:50 PM
Edited by Azagal at 13:52, 06 Oct 2013.

Dunno if I agree. If they're good pushers and you sit under your turret to last hit it means 2 things: either they will harass you to death under your turret (because a melee kass vs most other mids is a feast) or they will outroam you heavily. Either scenario sucks for you and your team.
Not to mention that Kass is insane lategame, the only thing that gates him is mana. Therefor people usually get rod/tear to help them stay relevant for as long as possible during teamfights and so they can roam like madmen during midgame to get kills. Not so they "foolishly waste mana on ulting" Same story with Karthus and Anivia it's why they take so long to ramp up.

I understand that Zhonyas can be a situational pickup but you got a randuins, so you clearly wanted the armor. It's not like you'll get auto'd alot so the passive isn't what you'd spent a billion gold for it's the surviveablity and in that regard zhonyas certainly beats randuins on an ap carry. Abyssal over voidstaff is just not a good trade either. Even if your enemies are <100mr. But oh well not my kass build, as long as you're happy with it.
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posted October 06, 2013 01:56 PM

Fun fact: my buddy just got out of bronze 1 and according to op.gg his MMR is 1500+

Dat league system man, so accurate.
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posted October 06, 2013 02:01 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 14:08, 06 Oct 2013.

First it's not a "melee" kass, I merely put extra emphasis on W, because it's a very underestimated ability. Also I don't see how a zhonyas would be better than a randuin's in my situation that game. Damage wasn't an issue, it was survivability, 500 hp and 70 armour looked a ****ton better than more AP and some armour. I simply wanted more beef and some decent armour so that I can tank J4 and Darius.

Abyssal scepter gives 70ap 45mr and a nice aura of -mr, which will help against another AP mid pretty considerably. Void staff on the other hand is 70 ap and 35% -mr (before pen).  A normal adc would have somewhere around 50 - 80 mr, at 80 mr the pen would be 28. Plus abyssal scepter has an aura and mr. I prefer to have both items, but in my mind abyssal scepter is a defo priority over void on kass.
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Azagal
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posted October 06, 2013 02:23 PM
Edited by Azagal at 14:24, 06 Oct 2013.

Melee kass was simply me referring to a kass using his auto attack to kill minions rather than his spells.
But okay if you like you're build yeah man go for it. Do your thing.

Btw op.gg is by no means at all accurate. It gives you an approximation based on the mmr of people you were in games with recently.
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posted October 06, 2013 02:49 PM

9lp for a win as Kayle, because we were a 4v5 the game managed to drag on to 40min.
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