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Jiriki9
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posted May 10, 2012 09:55 AM |
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Fine. Now, neutrals are grey. So, we need 12 player colours which are disctinctive enough. I sense these as obligatory:
White
Black
Red
Blue
Green
Yellow
Purple
Turquois
Orange
Brown
Pink
That leaves us with one missing 
I'd say easiest is to split one colour into 2 (Dark&Light), best one where as few confusions with other colours are possible.
Question: Which of these shall it be?
Green
OR
Brown
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Blue
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Avirosb
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posted May 10, 2012 11:44 AM |
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How about tan?
So yeah, basically my answer is brown then, with 'brown' having a darker tone.
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Jiriki9
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posted May 10, 2012 01:53 PM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 15:42, 11 May 2012.
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Fine with that 
so:
White
Black
Red
Blue
Green
Yellow
Purple
Turquois
Orange
Brown
Tan
Pink
Arh, forgot new question. I think we'll now go on with subskills, for one main skill long at least...we need to get through these, you know...
EDIT: SO, I jsut decided now^^
We will go on with making subskills for the Defense Skill.
So far we know this about defense and its' subskills.
Defense
Increases the effect of "defense" command for friendly troops when the
heor is present in battle.
Subskills:
-Evasion (Reduces damage taken from ranged attacks)
-Fortitude/Steadfastness (Increased defense to all attacked friendly units (that didn't move in the previous round.))
-Parry (Reduces damage taken from melee attacks)
-Resistance (Decreases damage taken from spells)
~With Cross-Skill Prerequesites
-Defensive Tactics [Advanced Logistics]
So. First, we need the skills needing one Basic Subskill.
Note: the option "None" can only be chosen for at most ONE of these!!!
1. Which subskill shall require "Evasion"?
Ranged Retaliation (Allows your ranged units to retaliate against ranged attacks) ...this could also of course come later with "Archery" from offense as required subskill...
OR
A better idea by you
OR
None
2. Which subskill shall require "Fortitude/Steadfastness"?
Healthy/Health/better name (Slightly increases the max-HP of all of your units.) {Variant: The Main Skill Level determines, which units are affected (tier)}
OR
Hold Ground (The enemy cannot move your units by non-magical means)
OR
a better idea by you
3. Which subskill shall require "Parry"?
Counterstrike (Gives all your units an additional retaliation) OR (Increases the damage your units deal with retaliation)
OR
another idea by you
OR
None
4. Which subskill shall require "Resistance"?
<XYZ> Resistance/Defense/better name (Exists in variants for any form of non-physical damage (so <XYZ> can be fire, arcane, etc.), decreasing the damage your units take from this damage - not only from spells but also by units using this damage type!)
OR
None
EDIT: noone time? O.o Or is this topic too disliked?^^
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posted May 12, 2012 02:25 AM |
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4. Impervious
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
-Ghost destroying Fred
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posted May 12, 2012 04:03 PM |
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@gnomes: shall tha tbe the name? <XYZ>(-)Impervious?
1. Which subskill shall require "Evasion"?
Ranged Retaliation (Allows your ranged units to retaliate against ranged attacks) ...this could also of course come later with "Archery" from offense as required subskill...
OR
A better idea by you
OR
None
2. Which subskill shall require "Fortitude/Steadfastness"?
Healthy/Health/better name (Slightly increases the max-HP of all of your units.) {Variant: The Main Skill Level determines, which units are affected (tier)}
OR
Hold Ground (The enemy cannot move your units by non-magical means)
OR
a better idea by you
3. Which subskill shall require "Parry"?
Counterstrike (Gives all your units an additional retaliation) OR (Increases the damage your units deal with retaliation)
OR
another idea by you
OR
None
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posted May 13, 2012 09:46 PM |
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gnomes2169
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posted May 14, 2012 02:27 AM |
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@ Jir: Yes
1. Ranged retaliation
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
-Ghost destroying Fred
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posted May 14, 2012 01:16 PM |
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Which subskill shall require "Fortitude/Steadfastness"?
Healthy/Health/better name (Slightly increases the max-HP of all of your units.) {Variant: The Main Skill Level determines, which units are affected (tier)}
OR
Hold Ground (The enemy cannot move your units by non-magical means)
OR
a better idea by you
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posted May 14, 2012 02:39 PM |
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Vitality? Is that used yet?
(Slightly increases the max-HP of all of your units.)
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posted May 15, 2012 11:42 AM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 19:32, 22 May 2012.
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So far:
Defense
Increases the effect of "defense" command for friendly troops when the
heor is present in battle.
Subskills:
-Evasion (Reduces damage taken from ranged attacks)
-Fortitude/Steadfastness (Increased defense to all attacked friendly units (that didn't move in the previous round.))
-Parry (Reduces damage taken from melee attacks)
-Resistance (Decreases damage taken from spells)
~One Basic Prerequesite
-Counterstrike [Parry] (Gives all your units an additional retaliation)
-<XYZ> Impervious [Resistance] (Exists in variants for any form of non-physical damage (so <XYZ> can be fire, arcane, etc.), decreasing the damage your units take from this damage - not only from spells but also by units using this damage type!)
-Ranged Retaliation [Evasion] (Allows your ranged units to retaliate against ranged attacks.)
-Vitality [Fortitude/Steadfastness] (Slightly increases the max-HP of all of your units.)
~More than one Basic Prerequesite
-Endure [Fortitude+Resistance] (Your units take only X% damage from any spell, effect and ability that deals damage over a number of turns (liek poison and such...)) {Variant: An extreme variant would be X=0}
-Warding stance (Increases the basic defense (before anything else, like hero defense, other skills, artifacts, etc. come in) of units by X)
~With Cross-Skill Prerequesites
-Defensive Tactics [Advanced Logistics]
Moving on to those subskills needing 2 basic skills. There should be 2, max 3 of them, I think, and balancewise maybe not overlaping. so.
EDIT:
So. I'm Impatient, I know, but this was on since yesterday, so...I choose Endure to be in.
dSo, and which of THESE shall be in?:
Dance of Defense/better name [Evasion+Parry] (Increases the basic defense (before anything else, like hero defense, other skills, artifacts, etc. come in) of units by X% (Xcan be chosen when choosing this skill, from 10-40)) OR (Increases the basic defense (before anything else, like hero defense, other skills, artifacts, etc. come in) of units by X)
OR
Blocking [Evasion+Parry] (When your units still have at least one retaliation left, they get X% less damage from attacks (not from spells, nor from retaliations!!!))
OR
Dance of Defense/better name [Evasion+Parry] (Gives your units an activated ability, "Dance of Defense", usuable once per battle letting them ignore X% of damage (X: 20-50) the next time they get physical damage)
OR
a better idea by you with Evasion+Parry as prerequesite.
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posted May 18, 2012 02:18 AM |
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Warding stance (option 1) (Increases the basic defense (before anything else, like hero defense, other skills, artifacts, etc. come in) of units by X)
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
-Ghost destroying Fred
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posted May 24, 2012 04:56 PM |
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hey guys. I'm really sorry I am almost not on at all these days. A mentioned in the battlegrounds, I'll be in the netherlands til next thursday, so I won't be on the HC these days. Hope we all will continue with fresh motivation from then on!!!
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posted May 31, 2012 10:39 AM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 17:15, 03 Jun 2012.
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So, now, time for going on. Cross-Skill Subs, I think...
Which of these shall be in?
needs good name [Evasion+Ashen Veil(Fire Magic)] (Your units cannot be targeted for range-attack by enemies on long range.) OR (Your units cannot be targeted for range-attack by enemies if behind an obstacle.)
OR
Power through Pain [Parry+Master of Blessing(Light Magic)] (Whenever this unit gets melee damage, it gets a bonus on their attack/defense/Damage/Initiative(YOur choice which fo these!))
OR
Stand your Ground/better name [Fortitude+Grounding(Earth Magic)] (Increased defense to all friendly units who are not flyers)
OR
Mana Ward/better name [Resistance+Mana Well] (The current Mana points of your creatures are added to their defense)
EDIT: Is this dead? 
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posted June 03, 2012 05:22 PM |
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1st and 2nd are in.
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posted June 05, 2012 09:54 AM |
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Sorry, but you'll have to choose one of these two. When I give no specifications on how much options are to be chosen, it is allways only 1...
Going on, meanwhile.
Shall this skill be in?
Protect Each Other / better name [Master Defense&Veteran Nobility]OR[Master Defense&Veteran Estates]OR[Master Defense&Protection(Battle)]OR[Master Defense&Veteran Leadership] (Allows your units to switch between "Retaliating" and "Protecting" in the ability menue. Units for which you choose retaliating act normally in battle. Units which are protecting will instead use up their retaliation when close friends are melee attacked, add X% of their defense onto the attack, and take half of the damage dealt.)
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NO
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posted June 05, 2012 10:10 AM |
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Quote:
When I give no specifications on how much options are to be chosen, it is allways only 1...
Then you should have said 'which one' 
Yes: Protect Ally
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posted June 05, 2012 01:49 PM |
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with which of the given prerequesites?
1. ^^ Which one of these shall be in?
Maneuvers [Evasion + Veteran/Master Rush] (Ranged Units of you gain the ability to run away from enemies who melee-attacked them, if possible, and retaliate from the range against them)
OR
Lore of Defense [Master/Grandmaster Battle Lore] (Your units get +X Defense. X=number of creature types choosable for battle lore by the hero)
OR
Glorious Defense/better name [Fortitude+Parry+Valor(Leadership)] (Your units get their morale value added to their defense. This bonus is also doubled for 1 turn when good morale triggered.)
OR
Guerilla Tactics [Defensive Tactics + Pathfinding(Logistics)+ Trickery(Battle)] (In tactics phase of defensive battles and battles fought on the home terrain of the hero, you can place up to X of your units hidden onto the battlefields. Hidden units are invisible to the enemy until they walk into them. Taking action also unhides the unit.) {X can be chosen by you between 1 and 3, or you can make it variable in an interesting way.}
OR
Seize Chance [Counterstrike + Carefullness] (Whenever an enemy gets bad luck when attacking one of your units, this unit gets a free additional retaliation against this enemy.)
2. Choose a second one from this list
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posted June 05, 2012 04:54 PM |
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1. I like Seize Chance, but in the end I decided on Glorious Defense.
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posted June 05, 2012 09:05 PM |
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Oh, sorry. Then I'll go with power through pain.
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posted June 07, 2012 07:07 PM |
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@avi: which prerequesites shall "Protect Ally" have, now?
@vindi: Which stat shall be increased by "Power through Pain"
Also, going on:
1. Which one of these shall be in?
Maneuvers [Evasion + Veteran/Master Rush] (Ranged Units of you gain the ability to run away from enemies who melee-attacked them, if possible, and retaliate from the range against them)
OR
Lore of Defense [Master/Grandmaster Battle Lore] (Your units get +X Defense. X=number of creature types choosable for battle lore by the hero)
OR
Guerilla Tactics [Defensive Tactics + Pathfinding(Logistics)+ Trickery(Battle)] (In tactics phase of defensive battles and battles fought on the home terrain of the hero, you can place up to X of your units hidden onto the battlefields. Hidden units are invisible to the enemy until they walk into them. Taking action also unhides the unit.) {X can be chosen by you between 1 and 3, or you can make it variable in an interesting way.}
OR
Seize Chance [Counterstrike + Carefullness] (Whenever an enemy gets bad luck when attacking one of your units, this unit gets a free additional retaliation against this enemy.)
2. And which one of these?:
needs good name [Evasion + Master Fire Magic + Ashen Veil] (Your units cannot be targeted for range-attack by enemies on long range.) OR (Your units cannot be targeted for range-attack by enemies if behind an obstacle.)
OR
Roots/better name [Master Defense + Soul of the Trees (Wood Magic)] (The enemy cannot move your troops by non-magical or magical means.)
OR
None of these
3. Shall this be in??
Exhaust the Offender / Exhaust enemy / Exhausting Endurance / better name [Grandmaster Defense + Parry + Vitality] (Whenever an enemy attacks this unit in melee, it gets a malus on its Initiative, Attack and Defense, lasting X turns. The Malus is cumultative!) {X will be a number form 3-5, of your choice}
OR
Not
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