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Jiriki9
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posted October 09, 2014 12:33 AM |
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@Avi: Which of the mentioned abilities do you mean?^^
1. Shall the following Sub be in?
Sabotage / better name [Surprise Attack + Master War Machines] (Any attack or battle ability by the hero targeting an enemy War Machine has a chance to prevent that units next turn. THe hero will definitely gain a stealth battle ability when choosing this sub.) {Variant: also works on mechanical units}
Yes
OR
No
2. Which of the following subs shall be in?
Battle Training [Learning] (When choosing this sub, you can freely choose any battle ability for the hero to learn)
OR
Agents / better name [Trickery + Espionage] (Your hero gets a bonus on initiative when in a battle against an enemy town or hero that you have send spies to via Espionage.) {Variant: Requires Surprise Attack instead of trickery, but boosts damage instead of initiative}
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Avirosb
Promising
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posted October 09, 2014 08:26 AM |
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The one that begins with the word 'Slayer'.
1. No.
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Jiriki9
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Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted October 09, 2014 08:56 AM |
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1. Which of the following subs shall be in?
Battle Training [Learning] (When choosing this sub, you can freely choose any battle ability for the hero to learn.)
OR
Agents / better name [Trickery + Espionage] (Your hero gets a bonus on initiative when in a battle against an enemy town or hero that you have send spies to via Espionage. You will definitely get a stealth based battle ability when choosing this perk.) {Variant: Requires Surprise Attack instead of trickery, but boosts damage instead of initiative}
OR
2. Which of the following subs shall be in?
Home Protector / better name [Rush to Aid + Master Estates] {Prerequesite Variant: a later estates (All battle abilities are more effective when you fight in or within a certain range of a Town or garrison owned by you. It is more probable to get a defense-based battle ability when choosing this perk, but you can get any other as well.)
OR
Noble Warrior / better name [Majestic Presence] (When enemy units join your army for majestic presence, the hero gets a bonus depending on how many and which creatures it were.)
OR
Battle Fame / Renown Warrior / better name [Fame + Grandmaster Battle + 2 Battle Subs] (When the hero attacks enemy humanoid units (which are not immune to mind control or fear), there is a small chance that these units loose their next turn.)
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 09, 2014 10:59 PM |
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1. Battle Training
And now there's only me again...
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Vindicator
Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted October 10, 2014 01:40 AM |
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2. Defender of the Hearth [Rush to Aid + Master Estates] {Prerequesite Variant: a later estates (All battle abilities are more effective when you fight in or within a certain range of a Town or garrison owned by you. It is more probable to get a defense-based battle ability when choosing this perk, but you can get any other as well.)
AND
Infamous [Fame + Grandmaster Battle + 2 Battle Subs] (When the hero attacks enemy humanoid units (which are not immune to mind control or fear), there is a small chance that these units loose their next turn.)
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Jiriki9
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posted October 10, 2014 11:26 AM |
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Quote:
And now there's only me again...
You and Vindi, and I hope we get mroe people in again with the next topic - iirc, subskills always came with a kind of down-activity. Seems they are not so interesting to choose.
@vindi: again, if I do not give you the option to choose 2, I normally do not incline this option. However I think I again am generous, because I like both abilities, the anmes you gave them and then we have enough subskills, I think. So first, Battle subs, full summary:
Battle
Increases the damage a hero does in battle and allows him to get might-based combat abilities. THese are learned when choosing a subskill of "Battle". Battle-abilities need no mana or similar, but have a specific reload time each.
Subskills:
-Marksmanship (Increases the effect of Range-Based Battle abilities and the chance to gain such when increasing the level of "Battle". Choosing this sub, you will definitely get a Range-based Battle Ability)
-Aggression (Increases the effect of Offense-Based Battle Abilites and the chance to gain such when increasing the level of "Battle". Choosing this sub, you will definitely get an offense-based Battle Ability)
-Trickery (Increases the effect of Stealth-Based Battle Abilites and the chance to gain such when increasing the level of "Battle". Choosing this sub, you will definitely get a Stealth-based Battle Ability)
-Protection (Increases the effect of Defense-Based Battle Abilites and the chance to gain such when increasing the level of "Battle". Choosing this sub, you will definitely get a Defense-based Battle Ability)
with one basic sub as prereq
-Quickshot [Marksmanship] (Reduces the reload time for range-based battle abilities. You will definitely get a ranged-based battle ability when choosing this.)
-Rush to Aid [Protection] (Reduces the reload time for defence-based battle abilities. You will definitely get a defense-based battle ability when choosing this.)
-Shieldbreaker [Aggression] (Any offense-based battle ability or melee-attacked performed by the hero will ignore X% of the enemy defense. You will definitely get a offence-based battle ability when choosing this.)
-Surprise Attack [Stealth] (The first attack or damage-dealing Stealth-based battle ability performed by the hero deals double damage. You will definitely get a stealth-based battle ability when choosing this.)
with 2 basic subs as prereq
-Killer Instinct [Aggression+Trickery] (Increases the damage the hero deals with any battle abilities targeting single enemies by X%. You can get any battle abilities except defense-based ones when choosing this sub.)
-Secure Target (When the hero has used a defense-based battle ability on a friendly unit, from then on he will ranged-attack (If he has a ranged attack!) any enemy attacking that unit. You have higher chances to get a defense- or range-based battle ability when choosing this perk, but you can also get an offense- or stealth-based one).
with advanced subs as prereq
-Destroyer [Shieldbreaker + Killer Instinct] (Any non-ranged single-targeted battle-ability or attack by this hero deals even more additional damage.)
-Dirty Fighting [Surprise Attack](Every Melee Attack or stealth-based ability performed by the hero that targets an enemy unit, will decrease a random stat of the enemy unit for X (=battle level) turns. You can get a stealth-based or, less probable, an offense-based battle ability when choosing this skill).
-Double Shot [Quickshot + Grandmaster Battle] (When performing an ordinary ranged attack, the hero shoots twice, and thus deals twice damage.)
cross-skill subs
-Battle King/Queen [Battle Prince/ss] (Increases the effect of all battle abilities. The hero can gain any battle ability when choosing this sub.)
-Battle Training [Learning] (When choosing this sub, you can freely choose any battle ability for the hero to learn.)
-Bloodlust [Battle Triumph + Aggression] (Whenever an enemy stack is finished, all Battle abilities' reload coutner is reduced by 1. You have higher chances to get an offense-based battle ability when choosing this perk, but you can also get a range-based one.)
-Defender of the Hearth [Rush to Aid + Master Estates + a later??? estates sub???] (All battle abilities are more effective when you fight in or within a certain range of a Town or garrison owned by you. It is more probable to get a defense-based battle ability when choosing this perk, but you can get any other as well.)
-Flaming Warrior [Master Battle + Burning Sensation + Flame Caller] (On all attacks and battle-abilities targeted on enemies, the hero deals additional Fire Damage. You can get any battle ability which is not defense-based when choosing this sub.)
-Heroic Charge [Sprint/Glorious Charge + Aggression] (Adds a charge effect to the hero melee attack, so the damage is increased the further enemies are away from the hero's side of the battlefield. You will definitely get an offense-based battle ability when choosing this sub.)
-Infamous [Fame + Grandmaster Battle + 2 Battle Subs] (When the hero attacks enemy humanoid units (which are not immune to mind control or fear), there is a small chance that these units loose their next turn.)
-Poison Arrows [Marksmanship + Toxic Swarm + Trickery] (Adds a poison effect to all ranged attacks and battle-abilities used by the hero. You have higher chances to get a stealth- or range-based battle ability when choosing this perk, but you can also get an offense- or defense-based one.)
-Slayer of the Masses [Reveal Vice + Legend Battle] (The hero deals +X% damage against Core Units.)
-Spellbane [Mage Bane] (The hero deals more damage to an enemy unit depending on how many spells are currently effective on that unit (note: spellbinding included!).)
-Water Dance [Grandmaster Battle + Buccaneer + Variation/Turbulence] (The hero gains +50% initiative and deals +25% damage on naval battles. The hero can gain any battle ability when choosing this sub.)
I must say I think I like the battle main skill quite much. 
So, I think we're done with subskills for now (though we have a faaaar way to go on them, still...). What do we do next, then? Well, there is a winner on that vote we had and it iiiiis...making another Camopaign!
Which is quite an interesting thing to do, I think! 
So, how do we start? First, I think, we shoudl recapitulate the campaign system and remember which campaign we did last.
Campaign System (taken from the new summary which is in work)
The main campaign is the classical story-telling campaign known from all HoMM and many other strategy games. You have a few campaigns at the beginning, where you can branch out with different scenarios in each one. After you finish these, you unlock a new campaign depending on your actions. The moment of decisions which have a later relevance happens two or three times each campaign.
Campaign 1 (Info on page 293.)
The campaign we created before was a Necropolis Campaign, available from the beginning, in which you play as an invasion force from the nation "Skeltel Scrattle", there to attack, or, in best case, take the southernmost Stronghold Nations of the Grand Pian Desert. Effectively, during the course of the campaign, you attack and take control of Wyrmbern. You have not defeated all of the land, but the remaining nation is surrounded by your towns.
Choices are the following:
-in the first scenario you race a lonely human village and turn all inhabitants undead - all but one. A boy captures your interest and you can either let him flee, kill him or take him with you. The boy will return later on, probably as a campaign main hero.
-in the third (and last) scenario of the campaign you have to decide wether you ally with the stronghold nation of Chailhorn, or defeat the Chailhorn forces in the Wyrmbern area. This will influence later events.
-in the third (and last) scenario you get, at some point, the message that 2 of your apprentices are doing well and you can promote one of them to Necromancer. The choice will determine an enemy hero in a later campaign.
Now, we do a different campaign, though. I say, we do another campaign that has no requirements. So...
Which faction shall be the main faction of the campaign?
Abyss
OR
Dungeon
OR
Fortress
OR
Haven
OR
Keep
OR
Rampart
OR
Sanctuary
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Avirosb
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Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 10, 2014 01:23 PM |
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted October 10, 2014 01:51 PM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 18:09, 10 Oct 2014.
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seems the player will start out quite dark 
Which on the other hand may mean that the good guys will kick the bad later...
So, I will try to do basic things quickly and then start a BIG cascade as I am away for a week from tomorrow morning on...
Big EDIT: Well, as announced a few hours ago, I am away for a week practically form today evening (which is soon) and I want you to be able to goon without me a while. Thus, I will try to spawn a load of questions NOW...To make it possible spawning enough questions I decide we have one specific main hero in this campaign. I also decide the campaign starts with exactly 1 scenario! (None optional before, no scenario choice here)
1. What gender for the main hero of this campaign?
Male
OR
Female
2. Which race for the main hero of this campaign?
(Dark) Elf
OR
Human
OR
Minotaur
OR
Mucegai/Myconid (=humanoid Fungus creature)
OR
Faceless
3. Which name for the main hero of this campaign?
NOTE: This may only be answered AFTER 1 & 2 are answered!!! Or it wil not be counted!
Choose freely, fitting
4. Which ingame fraction does the player belong to (at the beginning, at least  )?
Nurihayn, the only Dungeon faction we know of so far
OR
Exile/s, Prisoners or similar
OR
A single settlement that is not part of a bigger nation
OR
a very small "nation" of only few cities
5. How many obligatory scenarios shall this campaign have?
NOTE: with obligatory, I mean scenarios that MUST be done. If the player can/must choose between 2 scenarios, these count as one, for this question. Optional scenarios of course do not count.
3-7
6. Which shall be the main enemy faction in this campaign?
There is no such
OR
2 Factions, first one, then the other (Which 2 of those listed below?)
OR
2 Factions which are allied, for this campaign (If you wish, you may choose 2 of those below, but you cannot choose factions which are hostile towards another ( or in the relations infos on page 224))
OR
it depends on a choice in the first scenario
OR
Abyss
OR
Dungeon
OR
Fortress
OR
Haven
OR
Keep
OR
Necromancer
OR
Rampart
OR
Sanctuary
OR
Neutral
7. How big shall the first scenario of this campaign be?
Note: Sizes are Tiny-Small-Medium-Large-XtraLarge-Gigantic.
Tiny
OR
Small
OR
Medium
OR
Large
OR
XtraLarge
8.Which boni shall the player be able to choose from for the first scenario?
Choose 3 of the following. IMPORTANT: you can also choose 3 times the same, or 2 of the same and one other. also, here shall only the type of bonus be chosen, not exactly WHICH, now.
Unit
AND/OR
War Machine
AND/OR
Resource
AND/OR
Artifact
AND/OR
AM-Building
AND/OR
Spell
9. What playing style shall the first scenario have?
Roleplaying-storytelling (Only hero and army, no or scarcely towns to conquer. This has more subtypes which will be not determined here, like exploring, escaping, monster-slaying, artifact-finding, etc.)
OR
Strategical Realm-Building (Town upgrading important. To that: gathering of ressources)
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Conquering
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Timed Defense (player must survive continuous attacks)
OR
Mixed
10. How many choices that influence later campaigns will occur in the first scenario of this campaign? NOTE: remember that per campaign, it will be 2-3 of such choices.
Choose 0-2
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Vindicator
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Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted October 10, 2014 10:05 PM |
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athas65
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posted October 11, 2014 12:00 AM |
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Avirosb
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Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 11, 2014 10:15 PM |
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Vindicator
Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted October 12, 2014 09:33 PM |
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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted October 12, 2014 09:54 PM |
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9. Roleplaying
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Ghost said:
Door knob resembles anus tap.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 15, 2014 11:38 AM |
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Vindicator
Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted October 15, 2014 07:11 PM |
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8. War Machine
OR
Artifact
OR
AM - Building
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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted October 15, 2014 11:08 PM |
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5. 6
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Ghost said:
Door knob resembles anus tap.
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Jiriki9
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Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted October 20, 2014 11:29 AM |
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HEy there. Finally, I am back.
Summin' up our results so far...
Campaign 2: Dungeon
Main Hero: Robur, male Minotaur
Starting Setting:
Number of obligatory scenarios: 6
Scenario 1
Starting Setting:
Starting Boni: War Machine, Artifact or AM-Building
Starting Conditions:
Map Size: Small
Other Players:
Main Objectives:
Secondary Objectives:
Choices
1 choice !
Max Level:
Now, asking on...
1. Which ingame fraction does the player belong to (at the beginning, at least )?
Nurihayn, the only Dungeon faction we know of so far
OR
Exile/s, Prisoners or similar
OR
A single settlement that is not part of a bigger nation
OR
a very small "nation" of only few cities
2. Which shall be the main enemy faction in this campaign?
There is no such
OR
2 Factions, first one, then the other (Which 2 of those listed below?)
OR
2 Factions which are allied, for this campaign (If you wish, you may choose 2 of those below, but you cannot choose factions which are hostile towards another (or in the relations infos on page 224))
OR
it depends on a choice in the first scenario
OR
Abyss
OR
Dungeon
OR
Fortress
OR
Haven
OR
Keep
OR
Necromancer
OR
Rampart
OR
Sanctuary
OR
Neutral
3. Which Fur colour for Robur?
Black
OR
White
OR
(Light/Dark) Grey
OR
(Light/Dark) Brown
OR
Ginger
4. How long are Roburs Horns? (in comparison to other minos)
Extraordinary long
OR
ordinary length
OR
shorter
OR
it is not known, as they were forcefully removed in his past
5. Which Eye Colour for Robur?
Red
OR
Orange
OR
Purple
OR
Black
OR
Grey
OR
Blue
OR
Green
OR
Yellow
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Avirosb
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Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 20, 2014 10:08 PM |
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Jiriki9
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Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted October 20, 2014 11:50 PM |
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1. Which ingame fraction does the player belong to (at the beginning, at least )?
Nurihayn, the only Dungeon faction we know of so far
OR
Exile/s, Prisoners or similar
OR
A single settlement that is not part of a bigger nation
OR
a very small "nation" of only few cities
2. Which shall be the main enemy faction in this campaign?
There is no such
OR
2 Factions, first one, then the other (Which 2 of those listed below?)
OR
2 Factions which are allied, for this campaign (If you wish, you may choose 2 of those below, but you cannot choose factions which are hostile towards another (or in the relations infos on page 224))
OR
it depends on a choice in the first scenario
OR
Abyss
OR
Dungeon
OR
Fortress
OR
Haven
OR
Keep
OR
Necromancer
OR
Rampart
OR
Sanctuary
OR
Neutral
3. Which Fur colour for Robur?
Black
OR
White
OR
(Light/Dark) Grey
OR
(Light/Dark) Brown
OR
Ginger
4. Which Eye Colour for Robur?
Red
OR
Orange
OR
Purple
OR
Black
OR
Grey
OR
Blue
OR
Green
OR
Yellow
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted October 21, 2014 06:57 PM |
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