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Smithey
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posted April 08, 2011 06:04 PM |
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Africa....
So, the topic of Africa ???
Can someone explain to me, or at least try to how come
1. Home come we don't care about Africa ?
2. How come we don't hear about it on the news ?
3. How come whenever something happens to jews/muslims there are riots in every major city but Africa nothing ?
4. How come black people always talk about slavery (at least in USA) but they show zero interest or at least a united front on the subject ?
5. How come its 2011 and we allow every other person to have aids in Africa ?
6. How come I hear about every possible conflict in every country worldwide but nothing of Africa ?
7. How come genocides, rape camps, little 6 year old soldiers, hunger, diseases don't bother us so called moral society ?
When you've done answering all of those ask yourself the real question of this thread - Are we as people that racist towards black men and why at all ? Majority of you probably doesnt view yourselves as such but can you state so without a doubt ? Is there no racism in your country ? I've switched 3 countries so far and visited at least 30 and it's the same everywhere, so... WHY ? 
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Fauch
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posted April 08, 2011 06:22 PM |
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like in "1984" by george orwell, they are the low class.
it's just that if they weren't so poor, some people wouldn't be so powerful
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Smithey
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posted April 08, 2011 06:56 PM |
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would make sense if the same thing applied to other pure countries however we get to hear about them unlike about Africa 
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JollyJoker
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posted April 08, 2011 07:34 PM |
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I don't think, that the way you present the topic is fair.
This is a VERY complex issue, and I don't think it has to do with racism.
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Smithey
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posted April 08, 2011 07:49 PM |
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That's how I see it, If I'm wrong and you can present it in a more accurate manner I'm always open minded 
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posted April 08, 2011 07:53 PM |
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I think we don't try to improve the place and cultivate them anymore, since the last time we tried that, things went kind of wrong.
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Fauch
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posted April 08, 2011 07:54 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 19:58, 08 Apr 2011.
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no, intolerant people have no problems with african people.
here they are more concerned about the muslims in their streets, why should they care about people living on another continent?
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Smithey
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posted April 08, 2011 08:12 PM |
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@ Fauch, what is here ? and how do you explain the fact that those same muslims do care about Palestine/Iraq/Kosovo which arent on the same continent as them ?
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posted April 08, 2011 08:20 PM |
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@ Fauch, what is here ? and how do you explain the fact that those same muslims do care about Palestine/Iraq/Kosovo which arent on the same continent as them ?
Because it's about people they identify themselves with. We don't identify with poor black peasants who wage a lot of war with each other.
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Fauch
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posted April 08, 2011 08:25 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 20:28, 08 Apr 2011.
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yeah, that makes me think, each time there is a major catastrophe with thousands of deads, we hear at the tv how they managed to save a couple of french people.
seriously, who cares about japaneses or lybians? french people who are there get free plane tickets. the other people can die, they had to be born french. (I'm not being racist  just explaining their logic)
also, a movie I saw "go, live, become" where a family, to flee his country which is at war, has to lie about being jew, if I remember well.
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posted April 08, 2011 08:36 PM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 20:38, 08 Apr 2011.
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1. Home come we don't care about Africa ?
2. How come we don't hear about it on the news ?
3. How come whenever something happens to jews/muslims there are riots in every major city but Africa nothing ?
4. How come black people always talk about slavery (at least in USA) but they show zero interest or at least a united front on the subject ?
5. How come its 2011 and we allow every other person to have aids in Africa ?
6. How come I hear about every possible conflict in every country worldwide but nothing of Africa ?
7. How come genocides, rape camps, little 6 year old soldiers, hunger, diseases don't bother us so called moral society ?
1. Who are "we"?
2. Libya is in Africa, as well as Egypt. We hear a lot about them lately (and not only lately). I take it you mean Central/Southern Africa which indeed almost doesn't exist for the outside world. Is it so?
3. The vast majority of the African countries are former colonies or subordinates to some Great Power, their overall development level is lower than anywhere else on this planet and many of them don't have governments that survive for more than 1-2 years/have real power/care for anything apart from the well-being of small fraction, leaving the population to rot. And because of all this, they have no propaganda machine to speak of. Plus, they are not organized enough to present an external threat to anyone, nor they have that many accessible strategical resources.
4. Can't really comment here, even if it's true. I suspect that it might something to do with the fact that "black people" in America are definitely not the "black people" in Africa though. And that this is not a racial problem.
5. See 3.
6. See 3.
7. What moral society?
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Smithey
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posted April 08, 2011 09:23 PM |
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@ Dagoth and Fauch, I dont identify with anyone actually (besides being sorry for japs, etc as another human being) but I see some hypocrisy in that subject, was just asking for you point of view. Besides that blacks in america, indeed identify with other blacks, matter of fact majority of black americans view things in black and white and refer to other blacks as "Us/Our people" while to whites as "You/Your people"
@ Zenofex
1&7. We are so called "people/society with high moral standards"
claiming to be the new world, trashing old world and even calling third world countries primitive ones.
2.I meant black africa, as I have stated... libya and egypt are countries with arab populations and not a black one.
3. nice answer,  however do you consider kosovo,palestine,iraq as a developed countries ? I dont, as mean as it might sound 
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posted April 08, 2011 11:05 PM |
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1. Home come we don't care about Africa ?
Good question asked by Zenofex: who's "we"?
Ordinary civilians... what exactly CAN you do to help an entire continent?
Whole nations... what's there to do? What you're asking about are independent nations. You can't just go there and tell them how to live. We're not at colonial era anymore. Most countries are already helping a lot, but as you probably know, its up to their governments to distribute all the help they get.
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2. How come we don't hear about it on the news ?
What's there to say? Poor countries are poor. Yes, there are starving people there. Yes, most people are aware of that situation. No, talking more about it won't change a damn thing, or so I suspect.
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3. How come whenever something happens to jews/muslims there are riots in every major city but Africa nothing ?
There was a lot of media attention towards Egypt, Libya...
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4. How come black people always talk about slavery (at least in USA) but they show zero interest or at least a united front on the subject ?
Slavery is a thing of the past. It's dead. What fronts you want to form against it now?
(I'm not talking about selling people which still works but isn't limited to Africans anyway)
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5. How come its 2011 and we allow every other person to have aids in Africa ?
We? And what are you going to do about it? drop condoms from bombers?
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6. How come I hear about every possible conflict in every country worldwide but nothing of Africa ?
Mainstream media are picky. Try regional, you will get more info.
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7. How come genocides, rape camps, little 6 year old soldiers, hunger, diseases don't bother us so called moral society ?
And what can ordinary people do about it?
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When you've done answering all of those ask yourself the real question of this thread - Are we as people that racist towards black men and why at all ? Majority of you probably doesnt view yourselves as such but can you state so without a doubt ? Is there no racism in your country ? I've switched 3 countries so far and visited at least 30 and it's the same everywhere, so... WHY ?
Idk, I like black people myself, they have an interesting culture, I wish I had a black friend myself (I want to have friends in all cultures). Whites treating Blacks as a inferior race of slaves for 200 years might be a good answer to you, though.
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posted April 08, 2011 11:28 PM |
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Most countries are already helping a lot, but as you probably know, its up to their governments to distribute all the help they get.
well, it isn't exactly their priority. I mean, they spend far more money for military than for the 3rd world. and in my book, buying tanks isn't exactly about wanting to help people. (though, for some reason, everytime they claim they are helping, they send tanks )
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Slavery is a thing of the past. It's dead. What fronts you want to form against it now?
lol what? what about workshop countries? heard about foxconn, for example? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10182824
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Smithey
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posted April 09, 2011 12:02 AM |
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2. How come we don't hear about it on the news ?
What's there to say? Poor countries are poor. Yes, there are starving people there. Yes, most people are aware of that situation. No, talking more about it won't change a damn thing, or so I suspect.
Was referring more to the fact that over the last 4 yrs 500.000 people have been killed in darfur, its a genocide but we're not really aware of it, on the other hand who hasnt heard of Palestine ?
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There was a lot of media attention towards Egypt, Libya...
Both Arab countries, black are only a minority within them
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4. How come black people always talk about slavery (at least in USA) but they show zero interest or at least a united front on the subject ?
Slavery is a thing of the past. It's dead. What fronts you want to form against it now?
(I'm not talking about selling people which still works but isn't limited to Africans anyway)
36 millions of slaves worldwide exist today, more than ever throughout the history of man kind. and slavery is far from being the thing of past in the eyes of majority of african americans
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6. How come I hear about every possible conflict in every country worldwide but nothing of Africa ?
LOL, is it really bad if I say I believe some of them would probably try to eat the condoms ?
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7. How come genocides, rape camps, little 6 year old soldiers, hunger, diseases don't bother us so called moral society ?
And what can ordinary people do about it?
Go to the streets, protest, put some pressure on our gov's, I'm not saying I'm doing so or that I will, I'm simply trying to understand the mindset of others on the topic... I don't really care about Africa, I wonder why is it so, thats all 
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Idk, I like black people myself, they have an interesting culture, I wish I had a black friend myself (I want to have friends in all cultures). Whites treating Blacks as a inferior race of slaves for 200 years might be a good answer to you, though.
Thing is its not only whites, wherever I've been they are inferior in everybody's eyes not just whites...
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Fauch
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posted April 09, 2011 01:13 AM |
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you mean that black people also consider themselves as inferior?
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Smithey
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posted April 09, 2011 01:18 AM |
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I mean, in asia they are considered inferior by people of yellow skin
In middle east, north africa by arab countries
In europe, N. america and australia by whites
In s. america by latinos....
Native americans are racists towards everyone so that doesnt say anything...
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posted April 09, 2011 10:06 AM |
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I mean, in asia they are considered inferior by people of yellow skin
In middle east, north africa by arab countries
In europe, N. america and australia by whites
In s. america by latinos....
Native americans are racists towards everyone so that doesnt say anything...
oh good sir, can you try to fail even harder?
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posted April 09, 2011 10:13 AM |
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Was referring more to the fact that over the last 4 yrs 500.000 people have been killed in darfur, its a genocide but we're not really aware of it, on the other hand who hasnt heard of Palestine ?
Ask CNN why or watch smaller, less sensation-crazed TVs.
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36 millions of slaves worldwide exist today, more than ever throughout the history of man kind. and slavery is far from being the thing of past in the eyes of majority of african americans
Slavery is legally abolished.
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Go to the streets, protest, put some pressure on our gov's, I'm not saying I'm doing so or that I will, I'm simply trying to understand the mindset of others on the topic... I don't really care about Africa, I wonder why is it so, thats all
We have a life of our own, and you want us to go to the streets? Why don't you try instead
It's not colonial era anymore & we can't just go and invade an independent country with our "help".
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posted April 09, 2011 06:30 PM |
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36 millions of slaves worldwide exist today, more than ever throughout the history of man kind. and slavery is far from being the thing of past in the eyes of majority of african americans
Well, are you talking about human trafficing then? That type of slavery does exist worldwide, Eastern European and Asian women are in high demand as slaves in Western Europe and N. America.
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