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pyromancer
pyromancer


Adventuring Hero
posted February 11, 2002 04:23 PM

Monsters in Towns

here is a link with the full description of the Academy monsters (statistic, special skill, growth...)
http://www.heroes.ag.ru/monsters/academy/
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Midler
Midler


Hired Hero
High Priestess Elf Queen
posted February 11, 2002 10:47 PM

Yeah, I guess it's a good site... too bad I can't understand a single thing written in there.

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Darion
Darion


Promising
Famous Hero
posted February 11, 2002 11:57 PM
Edited By: Darion on 11 Feb 2002

Here's what I managed to scrap out of it... in terms of the special abilities:

Dwarf gets 50% chance to reflect spells
Halfling gets giantslayer ability, which does additional damage to 4th level creatures
Golem has 75% chance to reflect spells, and only takes 1/4 of damage from certain types of attacks
Mage can cast Blur, Curse, Magic Fist, Poison and Raise Skeletons.
Genie gets flying and can cast Cowardice, Create Illusion, Ice Bolt, Mirth, Slow and Song of Peace
Naga has no retaliation
Dragon Golem has first strike, and first counterstrike as well (so they are able to attack first even during their opponent's turn?) and same sort of damage modifier as the golem.
The Titan has no hand-to-hand penalty, has immunity to all chaos spells, and takes less damage from Chaos creatures (WOW!!! I wonder if all 4th level creatures are like this?)

That's all I could get out of the translator

Wait.. here's more on Asylum:

Bandits are invisible to all lvl 1 creatures and heroes w/ no scouting even when right next to them, and are invisible at a distance (not adjacent hex) to all 2nd level creatures and heroes w/ basic scouting ability etc.
Orcs have no melee penalty, but their shots do less damage at long distances.
Minotaurs get blocking/parrying or whatever it is
Medusa (which apparently means jellyfish in Russian) can instantly kill a creature with it's gaze, except for undead and mechanical creatures (another interesting point is that the Medusa has like unlimited ammo...999?)
Efreet have flight, fireshield, immunity to fire based spells, and takes less damage from fire attacks... I think it has a ranged attack (looks like fireballs)
Nightmare cause loss in morale, have immunity to life magic, and recieve less damage from life creatures.
Black Dragon has flight, firebreath, and immunity to magic
Hydra has adjacent hex attack w/ no retaliation

That's all they had, no more. Hope peoples find this interesting!
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pyromancer
pyromancer


Adventuring Hero
posted February 12, 2002 11:21 AM

no, the efreet has no ranged attack. the icon with the fire balls is the fire attack skill. (units with fire resistance take less damage). the mage also has no ranged attack. maybe they will use magic fist to attack?
the dwarves also has 50% magic resistance, which means that they have 50% chanse to avoid madic, and if not they take only 50% of the damage.

the small icons with the fist are the attack, these with the two swords the melee defence, and the icon with the bow is the ranged defence. there is another icon with arrows = number of shots.

the number under the horse is the week growth, and the number right to the horse is the unit level.

if you have questons, don't be shy and ask
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Wesley
Wesley


Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
posted February 12, 2002 11:28 PM

1 Each day?

Hey guys/girls! Haven is up!
Wow! The crusader really replaces a Paladin
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ShadowLord
ShadowLord


Promising
Famous Hero
of Dope
posted February 12, 2002 11:29 PM

Quote:

The Titan has no hand-to-hand penalty, has immunity to all chaos spells, and takes less damage from Chaos creatures (WOW!!! I wonder if all 4th level creatures are like this?)



Sweet... my favorite creature was finally given a break. I betcha this will be the ultimate dragon slayer as well as the halflings!
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pyromancer
pyromancer


Adventuring Hero
posted February 13, 2002 10:36 AM

who needs a favorite town anymore? just see the units in the first three towns, they are balanced by growth and skills and are ready for battle. i just love them all
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Wesley
Wesley


Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
posted February 13, 2002 10:52 AM

Hmmm Wrong.

Who would take the Champion? Or who would take the Hydra???

The angel and Black Dragon are much stronger.... In every way.
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pyromancer
pyromancer


Adventuring Hero
posted February 13, 2002 11:02 AM

4 champions vs 2 angels
the whole damage of the champions + the charged ability is much more than the damage that the angels can do.

and i have a question-do all monsters now have unlimitted retalitation or only 1 ret.? if they have unlimited ret. than take a look of a battle against the hydra:
first attack against the hydra - the attacker does damage and the hydra does damage (at this moment this is a normal situation)
the second attack - another unit attacks the hydra - the hydra attack the first and second unit - (all adj. units)
the third attack - another unit attacks - the hydra does damage to all adj. units. (maybe the first group is already dead, because the stats of the hydra are now the same as this of the other 4 level creatures - 30att, 26def, and the damage is a high class - max60.
and finaly the hydra does her own attack - to all adj. units. how many monsters suffer damage from the hydra?

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Wesley
Wesley


Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
posted February 13, 2002 11:26 AM
Edited By: Wesley on 13 Feb 2002

Hmm

No they don't have unlimited retaliation attack..
Because if they do. Why the Gryphon still has that special ability(of unlimited retalition) So the answer is no..

And the champion and angel are both level 4... You have to make your choise. If you don't choose champion then you can't take them in the past.
You only can take angels.
Everybody will take angels.
Because maybe 4 champions win against 2 angels..
But what about 4 angels against 4 champions?
They should be about the same strenght..


As for my favorite level4 creature the hydra.
It really sucks that they putted him in asylum.......
Everybody would take that stupid dragon now.. The hydra is slower has less attack has weaker special abilities. Nobody takes the hydra.
BLEH! YOu all know the black dragon is a vain creature heh? So take the hydra! Everybody hates vain creatures! SO dump that dragon! Take Hydra!


Same goes for Academy

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pyromancer
pyromancer


Adventuring Hero
posted February 13, 2002 11:59 AM

the point here is in the week growth or the champion and the angel -> for one week you have 4 champions and 2 angels. the same is with the hydra (2) and the black dragon (1).

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Wesley
Wesley


Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
posted February 13, 2002 12:34 PM

Ow..

But what makes them think a Mechanical Dragon is stronger then a Titan? Who is 10000 times as big!

I think the titan must be in lower numbers! not the mechanical snow.
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StormWarning
StormWarning


Promising
Famous Hero
Archmage of Thunder
posted February 13, 2002 10:06 PM

What's with the two movement numbers - overland and in combat, perhaps? I can tell what the rest should be:

Damage
Health
Attack
Melee defense
Range defense
Speed
Move (overland?)
Move (in combat? if so, then they weren't kidding about it taking forever to get across the map!)
Shots
Spell points
Experience for defeating them
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pyromancer
pyromancer


Adventuring Hero
posted February 14, 2002 10:08 AM

ok
also they are three stats for the movement
the speed value is for the order in which the monsters attack, the 1st movement value (the big one) is for the distance they can walk on the map, and 2nd movement value is for the distance they can walk during the battle.
i.e. the naga has speed of 7 but can walk only 6 hexes, and the genie has 6 speed but can walk 12 hexes. the naga will attack first and the genie after the naga.
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Wesley
Wesley


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Famous Hero
banned
posted February 14, 2002 07:22 PM

Undead are up


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StormWarning
StormWarning


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Famous Hero
Archmage of Thunder
posted February 14, 2002 10:07 PM

In the Necropolis, why are Bone Dragons so cheap? They're more XP than the Devil and stronger than them, but they cost half as much! (2000 + 2 crystal as opposed to 4000 + 2 sulfur)
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Oldtimer
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posted February 14, 2002 11:06 PM

"As for my favorite level4 creature the hydra.
It really sucks that they putted him in asylum.......
Everybody would take that stupid dragon now.. The hydra is slower has less attack has weaker special abilities. Nobody takes the hydra.
BLEH! YOu all know the black dragon is a vain creature heh? So take the hydra! Everybody hates vain creatures! SO dump that dragon! Take Hydra"

You might think that everyone would choose the black, but it cost 8000 freakin gold!  Thats 2 hydra or 4 champions!  It seems that most level 4 creature gice you the choice of an expensive super creature or a regular creature (Except for academy) the map might dictate your chioce.  If you can't afford the Black, then build Hydra and get a level 4 in action.
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Jenova
Jenova


Famous Hero
posted February 15, 2002 02:22 AM

Dragon Golem is better than Titan? Ah man.. I was thinking of shunning the DG so I didn't have to see it.
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DarkRain_CHN
DarkRain_CHN

Tavern Dweller
posted February 15, 2002 06:52 AM
Edited By: DarkRain_CHN on 15 Feb 2002

Quote:
In the Necropolis, why are Bone Dragons so cheap? They're more XP than the Devil and stronger than them, but they cost half as much! (2000 + 2 crystal as opposed to 4000 + 2 sulfur)


Heroes.ag.ru has made a mistake. The cost of Bone Dragon is 4000G + 2Crystal, look at this screenshot : [url=http://www.crpg.ru/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Heroes%20of%20Might%20and%20Magic%20IV/bone_dragon.jpg]recruit Bone Dragons[/url]

Titan is my favorite creature, so I hate Dragon Golem.
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StormWarning
StormWarning


Promising
Famous Hero
Archmage of Thunder
posted February 15, 2002 10:15 PM

Oldtimer - you only get 1 Dragon a week, but two Hydras. And you get 4 Champions or 2 Angels. The others, so far, are pretty even and get 2 of either.

BTW, Preserve (both normal and the Portal of Summoning creatures) is up.
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