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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted February 13, 2002 09:05 AM |
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No comment !!!
Hello XXXX and hamsi128,
After reviewing this matter and speaking with XXXX we are unable to
determine if either or both of you were being dishonest in this game.
What we do expect is that we will hear of neither of you involved in a
troublesome situation again because this game clearly raises
suspicions.
Let's have no more of this and best regards to you both,
-The Honor Council
-----Original Message-----
> From: XXXX
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:06 PM
> To: dEth8@dEth8.zzn.com
> Cc: dEleTeDeWd@yahoo.com
> Subject: RE: why you want to remove me?
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>
> hi i think this is incorekt i dont have trainer i
> dont need it.i see hamsi128 on zone and look this
> save.
> but i think you need remove hansi128 from toh no me.
> i remember this game hamsi128 was host i was red.
> on first day i get boots of speed i was lusky .
> i get all resourses mines and exp. very wast my
> hereo
> was very strong. i will be win this game.hamsi128
> leave
> and after 5 minute tell me you have arhangels on
> your
> army and sell me save i look this save and i see 5
> arhangels. them i load my auto and i dont see
> arhangels.i send my save to hamsi128.and hamsi tell
> me
> lets this game finish a draw.on this moment i was
> over
> 1670 points hamsi was 1100 if i will be win i will
> be
> get only 1-2 points and i accept,and go to play
> another game.i think after he leave hamsi128 edit
> map
> on singal player made and save to honor council.why
> you think hansi edit arhangels why no edit titans or
> devils i know why dont have cheat to heroes 3 to
> edit
> titans or devils have only from arhangels i try to
> edit map and i see this editink work.i think you
> need
> remove hamsi no me.i play over 2 years in toh and i
> dont see that this gay is very bad.if you remove me
> from toh you remove me for nothink this was very
> stupid i send email to all my toh friends today you
> remove me from nothink tommorow another player for
> nothink .if you remove toh players for noting this
> vas
> very stupid.
> i think if you want to remove someone from toh you
> need more emails.remove player only whit 1 email
> this
> is very stupid if i edit map and send save to
> honorcouncil and you remove someone this was
> incorect.
>
> best regards XXXX
>
>> --- dEth8 <dEth8@dEth8.zzn.com> wrote:
> > EliteDewd, please work to explain the case to
> > XXXX. He has always been
> > an honorable player in the past, so this news was
> > indeed troublesome at
> > least.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > -dEth8
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: XXXX
> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:30 AM
> > To: Elite Dewd
> > Cc: dEth8@dEth8.zzn.com
> > Subject: why you want to remove
> > me??????????????????????????
> >
> >
> > hey i newer play with you. and im not cheater
> please
> > tell me why you want to remove me from toh.
> > i play 2year in toh and i report all my games wins
> > and
> > loss i dont know where is a problem.please tell
> me.
> > if someone send report to honor council please
> send
> > me
> > copy of this email.i think this is incorect whit
> you
> > you want to remove me but i dont know why.IF YOU
> > WANT
> > TO REMOVE ME WROM TOH FIRST TELL ME WHY????!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > regards XXXX.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Elite Dewd <deletedewd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Hello XXXX,
> > >
> > > It is always a displeasure to have to inform
> > players
> > > they are being removed, however that is exactly
> > what
> > > we find ourselves occupied with in this email.
> > > We cannot comprehend how you would enjoy winning
> > > while
> > > cheating since it only proves you were unskilled
> > if
> > > you must resort to cheating. We hope you will
> > take
> > > some pride in your abilities in the future.
> > Winning
> > > an
> > >
> > > honest game is very gratifying. Your account is
> > > being
> > > deleted and you may no longer participate in TOH
> > > under
> > > any assumed name. You will be listed on the
> > > Hall of Shame page as a warning to others.
> > >
> > > Your removal comes from a case that clearly
> showed
> > > you
> > > were cheating and for that the penalty is
> > immediate
> > > termination of a player. This is a most
> > unfortunate
> > > thing and we really hope you do come to enjoy an
> > > honest game for a good time in the future, win
> or
> > > lose. We hold no malice against you and this
> > whole
> > > matter comes with sincere regrets. If you
> should
> > > choose to continue to play HOMM then you might
> > want
> > > to
> > > look into one of the many other tournaments to
> > > re-establish a new and improved reputation for
> > > yourself.
> > > A couple examples are: art of war, battle for
> > honor,
> > > cases ladder, and the champions of tymeria,
> > > etc....just take a look around the Zone and you
> > > will hear of them.
> > > http://www.tymeria.com/,
> > > http://www.myleague.com/heroes3/,
> > >
> >
>
http://www.geocities.com/sapphireravyn/PlayersList1.html,
> > > http://www.geocities.com/mythsofcamelot/
> > >
> > > Farewell,
> > > -The Honor Council
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quoting my post = bullet in your head
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted February 13, 2002 03:26 PM |
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hmm after reading the thread 4 times i still dont understand the middle part could someone translate it to english please ?  j.k
maybe its just because here is the wrong place to post such letters.
Missingvocabularyschaaf
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted February 13, 2002 04:44 PM |
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the topic is easy to understand for whom is concern dear ''recanterschaaf''... the topic is what happened to a lord while he was cheating.... the topic is honour council members believed to a lord defence rather than me .... motorschaaf this post is the only place to show some unfairness.... i caught a lord cheating and nothing happened to him....
best regards ,
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted February 13, 2002 04:49 PM |
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hamsi i am sorry but after reading the post again i still don't understand the situation explained in the E-mails.
my english sucks 
Maybe i'll understand it after i read it again
Englishisntmynativelanguageschaaf
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted February 13, 2002 05:07 PM |
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mea culpa
oups im dumb lol im really sorry hamsi
i read the letters but i started with the top one thats why they didn't make any sense hehe.
now that i looked at time and date i started with the lower one and now i understand why u posted here.
Motorschaaf
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Milena
Responsible
Supreme Hero
in supreme disgrace
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posted February 13, 2002 06:56 PM |
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Well...
please, would you explain what actually happened? I didn't get a thing..
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 Milena
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Hexa
Responsible
Legendary Hero
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posted February 13, 2002 09:00 PM |
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hmm Hamsi .. this really sucks .... I know I am new here but I would like to hear a reaction of the HC here too.
This seems totally dishonourable ..
Of Course I don't have all the facts but this is a strange case!
Let there be clarity I would say!@
greetz
hexa
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If you want to realize your dreams >>> you have to wake up!@
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Mad_Unicorn
Famous Hero
I am a mean person shame on me
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posted February 13, 2002 10:16 PM |
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Clarity....
I highly doubt HC or any other high standing person in Toh will give u clarity... Since the details on HC are meant to be personal tho some grieved people like posting names here so eventually it will be said just not by HC. If HC or Ves dont like whats being said consider this thread deleted or locked
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Hexa
Responsible
Legendary Hero
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posted February 13, 2002 10:23 PM |
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I know that Mad .. I just wanted to show support to whomever is wrongly acused!@
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If you want to realize your dreams >>> you have to wake up!@
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Mocara
Famous Hero
what?
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posted February 13, 2002 10:28 PM |
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This is inapropriate.
If you do not like the job the HC does then don't play in ToH.
Tell them how you feel but don't come here and try to cause an insurrection.
Call each other names, say your game philosophy sucks. Hit below the belt.
All that is OK.
But HC is the ultimate in ToH. If they make a decision it stands.
-Mocara
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haile73
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted February 13, 2002 10:43 PM |
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Actually I think that I was the first person who knew about that matter; hamsi sent me some zms, explaining the situation on zone. I told him to write to HC and send a save.
Now we see what happened.
I agree that these things shouldn't be posted here. But what else could he do?
Well, here is what I would do. Of course, I would never play that person again. And if someone asks me if (s)he should play XXXX, I would say no.
Not much, but in the long turn it might pay off
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andiangelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted February 13, 2002 10:55 PM |
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i know the player hamsi means, and its good he posted it here because this is the only chance to make it public what is going on: this player is a protected cheater its not the first case, and its not the only protected player.
i know many people wont like this post, but thats coz its the truth, and im noone you can count on to hiding such things...specially not if hamsi is about to get flamed for showing some courage here.
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Mad_Unicorn
Famous Hero
I am a mean person shame on me
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posted February 13, 2002 11:03 PM |
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alright
a rebellion woohoo i nominate andi as the general 
toh does NOT like things to be public no matter the issue unless said person makes it public himself.
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted February 14, 2002 01:29 AM |
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Dear friend ,
my handle is hamsi128... i played a game with a player named XXXX... in battle for honour he takes red i take blue flag... he got tower town... i got dungeon and the middle town was dungeon too... in the first week he attacked me but i defenced well my town... at the end of the week 3 one of my scout go to tavern and i take another hero and i opened map and i saw XXXX's main hero korbac... he got several arcangels in army slot... i asked him how and he said he has not arcangels... he asked me to load saves and replay the day.... i dont accept... for me to see arcangels in battle for honour without castle town was enough... he asked me to send him my saves i send him... he send to me his autosave too... i dont understand what happened and his save was normal... he said he doesnt need to have 5 arcangels to win the game... i dont know what to do... i send you my autosave and the save when i saw korbac with arcangels in his army.... pls contact me soon... you know that there is no possibility to have arcangels in this situation in this map... i played with XXXX two times and i know that he is honorable and good player but if there is not a bug or something else i think he cheated.... im sorry to send you this email... im waiting your urgent actions...
p.s. please send my email to XXXX too... he doesnt know that i send this email to honour council
Best regards ,
hamsi128
....... This is the e-mail i send to honour council..... this player wanted that i was removed from toh... i never wanted the same for him... i think i am naive... first of all he was host(a lord give opportunity to be host to a 1100 points playerlol)... second it was who asked a draw game... and last of all pls everyone who knows this player ask lichking how was this person played lots of games in fest with whom and how many times.....
Imagine that i play 10 games with motorschaaf in fest.... 5 wins for him and 5 wins for me.. good trade is not it? we dont need to play.. we report and everthing gonna be alright.....
And for toh..... i like toh ...if toh father and developper thinks i am wrong he is right.... there is nothing i can do(sorry to disturb with such strange thinks ves... you did a great job)
And for honour council..... they have a hard job... i was new and i believed to a veteran player who accepted to play with a player 300-400 less points then him.... maybe it was my mistake to play.
Best regards ,
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted February 14, 2002 04:43 AM |
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hamsi, I dont know of this case, but I would like to know who it was you are talking about, you can email me. I know the ins and outs of players and their histories far greater than anyone else in TOH, including HC. I will not overrule their decision, but would be able to get some insight on this person, and also tell you more about this person whomever it is, and his/her history in toh.
If anything, I will have my eye on this person. Cheaters get me mad to the bone. However, at the same time, we must always avoid turning things into a 'witchhunt'.
About HC, sometimes things are difficult to prove, and believe me, the HC wouldnt be defending this character. Mostly because players like deth8 dont even know most players by person, and thus have no bias or care of who it is.
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LichKing
Honorable
Known Hero
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posted February 14, 2002 05:38 AM |
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Huh?
Quote:
... second it was who asked a draw game... and last of all pls everyone who knows this player ask lichking how was this person played lots of games in fest with whom and how many times.....
Imagine that i play 10 games with motorschaaf in fest.... 5 wins for him and 5 wins for me.. good trade is not it? we dont need to play.. we report and everthing gonna be alright.....
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I don't know what you're getting at here, Hamsi, but I can assure you that I ran fest as fairly as I possibly could. Like Vesuvius, cheaters totally piss me off, and I would go out of my way to nail one to the wall if I could.
If you don't believe me, ask Ves.
If you're saying what I think you're saying, I resent it very much. If not, please keep my name out of this. I can sympathize with your situation, but as I have nothing to do with it I would appreciate it if you leave me out of it.
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SOUND THE CHARGE!! INTO GLORY RIDE!!!
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted February 14, 2002 08:39 AM |
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to lichking !!
i didn t want to strike.... i know your job was hard and i dont want to be rude to your effort and fest tournement... i have a question for you ....do you have suspicious on fest reports? (last week before finals)
kind regards ,
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted February 14, 2002 08:53 AM |
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Lich_king, i dont think he accuses you of anything. As far as i understand he says that since you are the voulenteer of the fest tournament you know who plays who in that tourney and how many times. Personally i dont think there are any way to catch cheaters for fake reporting in fest since many players has favourite players to play, i know some of them and i would never think that they fake report. What i am trying to say is that Lich just cant start accusing ppl for this nor think that someone cheats just because he has played many games, if he did that he would have to accuse half the members in that tourney
Another thing also comes to mind when i read this. I know that there are some built in cheat to get extra arch angels. So lets day that person A plays person B. A has a tough fight in front of him and is not sure he will make it so he writes in that cheat code (or use a trainer) and get the extra arch angels and after the battle he dismisses them. Is there any way for person B to catch this cheater (A) doing this if u cant see his hero?
/Stefan
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Titan_888
Known Hero
Wind of Change
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posted February 14, 2002 11:05 AM |
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This just stinks... kind of remind some time ago when some people discovered that you could cast a double spell in a round.
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bjorn190
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted February 14, 2002 11:26 AM |
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Quote:
Another thing also comes to mind when i read this. I know that there are some built in cheat to get extra arch angels. So lets day that person A plays person B. A has a tough fight in front of him and is not sure he will make it so he writes in that cheat code (or use a trainer) and get the extra arch angels and after the battle he dismisses them. Is there any way for person B to catch this cheater (A) doing this if u cant see his hero?
/Stefan
They donīt work in multiplayer with the version that most ppl use. Maybe with an altered version it could work. And if you make the cheat in single player and load it as multiplayer, the cheat dissapears and the game says "Someone is cheating!". I found that out when I played a custom map with one of my friends. We both had cloak of the undead king and faced a hero with expert water, book of water and 2000 naga queens in the end. Map was blocked so we wanted to get fly.. but then it didnt work and we had to replay the map. I won the end fight with expert blind =)))
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