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kainc
Famous Hero
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posted July 01, 2011 09:28 PM |
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Quote: Summon Leonardo DiCaprio, I found a bug within a bug.
While looking at one of these scenes where the AI fights against neutrals - in this case Phoenixes, I noticed that the damage-reflecting ability of the latter literally obliterated its army. The AI was Inferno and the battle went as follows:
7 Lacerators attack 40 Phoenixes - 7 Lacerators die from damage reflection. Doesn't look good, but one could say that it's borderline reasonable. However...
120 Demented attack 40 Phoenixes... and 120 Demented die from the damage reflection.
85 Cerberi attack 34 or 35 Phoenixes and 85 Cerberi die from the damage reflection.
And then the AI figured out that it has to retreat... The Phoenixes did not retaliate even once by the way. Scary...
Ye, saw that too, enemy had Sanctuary army and birdie butchered whole army. No need for Phoenix auto-resurrection, at least now
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PhoenixFlare
Hired Hero
Rebirth
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posted July 01, 2011 11:06 PM |
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Quote: Summon Leonardo DiCaprio, I found a bug within a bug.
While looking at one of these scenes where the AI fights against neutrals - in this case Phoenixes, I noticed that the damage-reflecting ability of the latter literally obliterated its army. The AI was Inferno and the battle went as follows:
7 Lacerators attack 40 Phoenixes - 7 Lacerators die from damage reflection. Doesn't look good, but one could say that it's borderline reasonable. However...
120 Demented attack 40 Phoenixes... and 120 Demented die from the damage reflection.
85 Cerberi attack 34 or 35 Phoenixes and 85 Cerberi die from the damage reflection.
And then the AI figured out that it has to retreat... The Phoenixes did not retaliate even once by the way. Scary...
If you were quick enough to read the Phoenix's ability, it says Moonfire Aura, which returns some 100% damage you deal as Prime damage. I assume the ability got buffed because of the Phoenixes' Magic, which made it return some 120% damage instead. So yeah, the more you hurt it, the more you hurt yourself. Tooltip must be wrong, however, since the damage log was incredibly scary. I don't know how the damage returned was some 4000+ each time ....
In my game, the enemy actually managed to kill a stack of ~40 Phoenixes after throwing ~600 units at it twice. I thought it was over, but after that, another battle with the Phoenix ensued (yay, auto-resurrection!) where the Phoenix returned as ... a stack of 1.
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Priest
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 01, 2011 11:45 PM |
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firstly - hi everybody
Secondly - I've got a big problem with H6 beta. It is probably often - the game is turning off during things like heroe's movement, fight, building in the town. But why does it happen so quickly after turning the game on? It is maximum 1 minute ...
My computer properties:
Intel Core 2 Duo T5550 (1.83GHz/667MHz FSB/2MB cache)
Windows Vista
Memory 3GB RAM DDR2 667MHz
Video Card 256 MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
I'll be thankful for any help
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2011 11:49 PM |
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Quote: Video Card 256 MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
That's probably a good explanation.
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MrDragon
Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
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posted July 02, 2011 12:16 AM |
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Quote: Summon Leonardo DiCaprio, I found a bug within a bug.
While looking at one of these scenes where the AI fights against neutrals - in this case Phoenixes, I noticed that the damage-reflecting ability of the latter literally obliterated its army. The AI was Inferno and the battle went as follows:
7 Lacerators attack 40 Phoenixes - 7 Lacerators die from damage reflection. Doesn't look good, but one could say that it's borderline reasonable. However...
120 Demented attack 40 Phoenixes... and 120 Demented die from the damage reflection.
85 Cerberi attack 34 or 35 Phoenixes and 85 Cerberi die from the damage reflection.
And then the AI figured out that it has to retreat... The Phoenixes did not retaliate even once by the way. Scary...
I had 22 Pitlords of my 24 Pitlords die when attacking a stack of 20 Phoenix.
I'm pretty sure that's not supposed to happen.
I found an artifact that let's me summon Phoenix though, I'll run some tests and see what happens.
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted July 02, 2011 01:14 AM |
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Week of Cowardice
- Experience gained from battles are halved.
Seriously Ubihole??
Why?! WHY??!
Do you honestly think anyone enjoy such a week???
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"You turn me on Jaba"
- Meroe
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted July 02, 2011 03:08 AM |
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It's sole function is pretty much to screw over single players. Not like the cpu needs experience.
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The giant has awakened
You drink my blood and drown
Wrath and raving I will not stop
You'll never take me down
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moljac024
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 02, 2011 03:27 AM |
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Shared creature pool is a big no-no, as are town conversions (instant or not). I fear that the way town conversion currently works, it could create a massive disbalance between army sizes if one player holds an extra castle or two for a week or two.
I agree with previous posters: oversimplification and smells too much like HoMM IV
Looks like HoMM III is still the best in the series :/
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Wckey
Famous Hero
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posted July 02, 2011 04:36 AM |
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Quote: I had 22 Pitlords of my 24 Pitlords die when attacking a stack of 20 Phoenix.
I'm pretty sure that's not supposed to happen.
I found an artifact that let's me summon Phoenix though, I'll run some tests and see what happens.
TRy to fight them using quick combat. Then you can compare damages.
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Come back soon, Elvin!
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted July 02, 2011 05:40 AM |
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Ok, anybody have a non-torrent way to get the Beta..and/or a suggestion for a torrent client to use with the ubisoft forum torrent..if so please PM me.
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Message received.
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Mitzah
Promising
Supreme Hero
of the Horadrim
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posted July 02, 2011 12:08 PM |
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Edited by Mitzah at 12:09, 02 Jul 2011.
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I recommend uTorrent as a client.
Quote:
Why?! WHY??!
Do you honestly think anyone enjoy such a week???
Chill. Remember week of plague?
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted July 02, 2011 12:22 PM |
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Quote: Ok, anybody have a non-torrent way to get the Beta..and/or a suggestion for a torrent client to use with the ubisoft forum torrent..if so please PM me.
I'd recommend you to download the thing from the site at about 6-7 AM GMT if possible. It went flawlessly for me while the attempts to download it during the evenings when supposedly everybody is online failed miserably no matter what I tried.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted July 02, 2011 12:24 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 12:25, 02 Jul 2011.
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At least Week of Plague made kind of sense, though.
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted July 02, 2011 01:03 PM |
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Edited by Jabanoss at 13:07, 02 Jul 2011.
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Week of Plague is no problem, it can easily be countered with making sure you don't overstack your dwellings with units.
Week of folly, or week of cowardice as it's called now is just a pain, that pretty much forced the player to stop creeping.
Sure they can still do it, but then it feels like you're wasting perfectly good experience sources....
Edit: Does anyone know if there's a way to make the Harpies stay at their target after attacking??
Holding shift doesn't work.
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"You turn me on Jaba"
- Meroe
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted July 02, 2011 01:21 PM |
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Quote: Holding shift doesn't work.
I think it's ctrl+click.
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Nirual
Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
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posted July 02, 2011 01:24 PM |
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Quote: firstly - hi everybody
Secondly - I've got a big problem with H6 beta. It is probably often - the game is turning off during things like heroe's movement, fight, building in the town. But why does it happen so quickly after turning the game on? It is maximum 1 minute ...
I have similiar problems, though not as frequent. Usually, when I start a new map, it starts out fine and then starts to crash a lot.
I've even had crashes when attempting to save the game.
Also, when I load from a save or even just alt-tab in and out, I initially only see the ground, with the objects and other details popping in over the course of about a minute.
Similiarly, when I enter a fight (especially sieges) I often get a few seconds of black screen.
Overall, I'm rather disappointed with the beta so far. The core gameplay seems alright, the story pretty interesting, but the game is just too unstable for me to enjoy. Doesn't help that the launcher seems to take ages to synchronize savegames, and even the slightest disconnect throws you out of the singleplayer.
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In ur base killing ur doods... and raising them as undeads.
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Kivo
Famous Hero
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posted July 02, 2011 01:53 PM |
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Quote: - Experience gained from battles are halved.
Seriously Ubihole??
Why?! WHY??!
Do you honestly think anyone enjoy such a week???
In homm3 there was a week in which you couldn't buy creatures
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Kivo
Famous Hero
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posted July 02, 2011 02:00 PM |
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Edited by Kivo at 14:02, 02 Jul 2011.
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I would much prefer to have a town screen which is 2D (homm3 style like ) than a 2,5D shi*.
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Kitten
Known Hero
Roar
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posted July 02, 2011 03:36 PM |
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Edited by Kitten at 16:45, 02 Jul 2011.
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I got the beta key I'm so happyyyyyyyy!!! But I had to ask them again and got it within two hours.
I got a question. My char in the top right corner, does it affect anything whether I choose which faction, ability and so forth when I play? I mean if I make a Haven char and then play as the Necro in the Broken alliance map?
And another thing, is Ghost and Spectre reversed? In the official art the Spectre is the light green one while the Ghost is the more ugly dark green one. But now ingame the ghost is the light green one. I have't seen the Spectre yet but it's portrait by Vangelis21 seems to be of the dark green =/
Nvm the char thingy, silly me should have spent more time to see it.
But anothing thing, the hotkeys H,K,S and Q doesn't seem to work for me. None of them brings up the hero, kingdom, spell page or the quest page; even when trying with shift+letter.
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted July 02, 2011 04:12 PM |
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Anybody else notice the arena exploit in the Sanctuary campaign? You can pretty much get infinite might and defense.
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The giant has awakened
You drink my blood and drown
Wrath and raving I will not stop
You'll never take me down
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