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Macron1
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posted December 26, 2013 08:40 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Hobbit said: Okay, maybe it'll work now.
EDIT: I have no idea why English version doesn't want to work. But Feanor posted Polish version - Recruits' ability is 20% (40%) resistance to ranged attacks.
It does work for me
PS: resistance means chance to avoid full enemy damage, right? Like dwarf's magic resistance...
It means damage from ranged attacks is reduced.
Dwarf ability is magic resistance, chance to avoid spell cast
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Hobbit
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posted December 26, 2013 09:22 PM |
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TBH it's a bit unclear to me, as IIRC golems' ability is described as spell damage resistance. But yeah, it's more about reducing damage.
Chance to avoid ranged attacks completely would be IMBA.
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posted December 26, 2013 10:34 PM |
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Hobbit said: TBH it's a bit unclear to me, as IIRC golems' ability is described as spell damage resistance. But yeah, it's more about reducing damage.
Chance to avoid ranged attacks completely would be IMBA.
In H3 English version, golems ability is described as "Damage from spells reduced by xx%", while dwarves is "xx% magic resistance".
That's why I asked, because, as you pointed out, chance to avoid attacks would be imba. And I wasn't sure what you had in mind there....
Since the description is plain text, it's easy to fix. Whether you decide to go to chance to avoid or damaged reduced by, I hope you are coherent with ingame descriptions. Just that
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Hobbit
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posted December 27, 2013 12:18 AM |
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Edited by Hobbit at 00:18, 27 Dec 2013.
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Despite of great power in Kastore's hands, it was hard to gather goblins in disciplined army. After King of Deyja went groups of Thugs and Mercenaries, who, although armed with Ancient Artifacts, are dangerous only in bigger squads.
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Macron1
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posted December 27, 2013 05:31 AM |
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Hobbit said:
Despite of great power in Kastore's hands, it was hard to gather goblins in disciplined army. After King of Deyja went groups of Thugs and Mercenaries, who, although armed with Ancient Artifacts, are dangerous only in bigger squads.
Good model, fitting to others.
Don't you think, that this 2nd level looks more like 1st level. And guys with shield are more fitting to be 2nd level?
This is just refugeers armed with guns. And shield guys are like elite police or SWAT.
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posted December 27, 2013 01:19 PM |
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Macron1 said: Don't you think, that this 2nd level looks more like 1st level. And guys with shield are more fitting to be 2nd level?
This is just refugeers armed with guns. And shield guys are like elite police or SWAT.
But blasters!
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Macron1
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posted December 27, 2013 02:48 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 14:49, 27 Dec 2013.
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Storm-Giant said:
Macron1 said: Don't you think, that this 2nd level looks more like 1st level. And guys with shield are more fitting to be 2nd level?
This is just refugeers armed with guns. And shield guys are like elite police or SWAT.
But blasters!
Police avoids % damage from ranged attacks, so it's more armed then goblins with blasters.
And whole unit is equipped not only with shield, but also with full armor. And only upgrade of goblins has some plate on breast.
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Hobbit
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posted December 27, 2013 02:59 PM |
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Edited by Hobbit at 15:04, 27 Dec 2013.
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Macron said: Don't you think, that this 2nd level looks more like 1st level. And guys with shield are more fitting to be 2nd level?
No.
It's the same with gnolls and lizardmen, so I don't think it's a problem. Remember also that we already have a goblin on the 1st level, so this one would be a little bit repetive, and also that we already have a shooter on 1st level and another one (this time as a standard shooter with more than 8 shots) would be a bit imba.
Think of those goblins as some really tough thugs who got their hands on advanced weapons.
Macron said: And whole unit is equipped not only with shield, but also with full armor. And only upgrade of goblins has some plate on breast.
It's not an armor, it's more like clothes. There's no armor which looks like this.
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Macron1
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posted December 27, 2013 03:29 PM |
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Hobbit said:
It's not an armor, it's more like clothes. There's no armor which looks like this.
I see an iron helmet and shoulders armor as well. They are more equipped.
And why not make another 1st level shooter? I made them enough:-)
And you forgot halflings, they are also 1st level shooters. And they may appear in Stanford (if it will appear at all officially).
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posted December 27, 2013 03:49 PM |
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Macron1 said: And whole unit is equipped not only with shield, but also with full armor. And only upgrade of goblins has some plate on breast.
Serpent & Dragon flies have more life even if they lack any kind of armor
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Macron1
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posted December 27, 2013 03:52 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 15:53, 27 Dec 2013.
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Storm-Giant said:
Macron1 said: And whole unit is equipped not only with shield, but also with full armor. And only upgrade of goblins has some plate on breast.
Serpent & Dragon flies have more life even if they lack any kind of armor
They are insects. Who knows if they are from titan not chitine.
Is there any other replacement of creatures from 0.8 version?
Or lineup is now fixed and will not be changed?
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Hobbit
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posted December 27, 2013 04:49 PM |
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Edited by Hobbit at 16:56, 27 Dec 2013.
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You'll see soon.
Quote: And why not make another 1st level shooter? I made them enough:-)
I facepalmed myself so hard my keyboard is all covered in my blood.
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kipshasz
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posted December 27, 2013 05:30 PM |
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Is the upgraded goblin wearing a beret?
Impressed by your progress guys. Nice work overall.
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Hobbit
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posted December 27, 2013 05:36 PM |
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kipshasz
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posted December 27, 2013 05:41 PM |
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well it look like a black military beret to me, when I look at the picture. I should know. I even own one.
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Macron1
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posted December 27, 2013 06:21 PM |
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Hobbit said: You'll see soon.
Quote: And why not make another 1st level shooter? I made them enough:-)
I facepalmed myself so hard my keyboard is all covered in my blood.
What is so bothering you?
There 9 towns, 1 first-level shooter. Why tre so hard and make gremlins the only ones? When there are man other towns?
I say more it's stoopid there is only one shooter (centaurs are not counted).
In example, in greek/roman armies shooters (and slingers etc) were the base most expendable units.
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Hobbit
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posted December 27, 2013 06:21 PM |
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Edited by Hobbit at 18:25, 27 Dec 2013.
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@kipshasz: Well, it isn't. It would definitely look more like beret if it was one.
@Macron1: If you don't understand already, you probably won't for now even if I explain it more.
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kipshasz
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posted December 27, 2013 06:34 PM |
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statisfy my drunk curiosity on the headgear of that bloody goblin as bloody trivial as it gets
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Macron1
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posted December 27, 2013 06:48 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 19:04, 27 Dec 2013.
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Hobbit said:
@Macron1: If you don't understand already, you probably won't for now even if I explain it more.
I can't understand nonsence. What I cannot understand?
3dO made one 1st level shooter in town.
It doesn't mean there can't be shooters of 1st levels in new towns (3dO doesn't have any relation with them).
What's more, there are a lot of shooters of 1st level in HMM4 (of 3DO). Halflings, orcs, archers. So 3dO is less orthodox than you.
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revolut1oN
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posted December 27, 2013 07:08 PM |
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@Kipshasz
I think its not a beret, its his hair ^_^ Something like this I guess
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