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xerox
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posted May 08, 2012 10:39 PM |
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worst idea ever! better improve spell dmg then this awfull "idea"
wont be heroes series game no longer...but only...stupidity!
what? that's exactly how it was in all other heroes games????
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted May 08, 2012 10:50 PM |
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Edited by DIEGIS at 22:54, 08 May 2012.
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resurection is what this word really means...keeping the ressurected troops after any fight thats what it is!
remember Jesus? ...
Hes not dead...but alive 
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xerox
Promising
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posted May 08, 2012 11:55 PM |
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i'm an atheist
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 09, 2012 03:50 PM |
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Two examples.. Resurrect and resurrect true in H2. Resurrection before and after expert earth mastery in H3.
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fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 09, 2012 06:21 PM |
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- Add some sort of requirement that you have to invest skillpoints in native skills (Light Magic I/II/III) to learn spells *or* to add improved efficiency.
that makes sense. for example light magic 2 adds a resurrection effect and light magic 3 makes resurrection permanent.
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xerox
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posted May 09, 2012 08:55 PM |
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I completly agree with that solution.
Would be fun if the other schools also got similar effects so the Spell Mastery perks would be more worth taking.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted May 09, 2012 09:07 PM |
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That is the obvious solution to many spell problems - indeed, that was how it was in the old games, and there are simply no reason why it should not be like that in the new games. Similarly destructive spells since Heroes 3 scaled their SP modifier with mastery also, so that for instance Lightning Bolt did 11 x SP damage when non-mastered, but 20 x SP when expert mastery in H5 - a significant boost.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted May 09, 2012 09:19 PM |
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Edited by Minion at 21:20, 09 May 2012.
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I also agree, but what about the resurrecting units aka Priestesses and Vestals and Ghosts?
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alcibiades
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posted May 09, 2012 09:28 PM |
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I also agree, but what about the resurrecting units aka Priestesses and Vestals and Ghosts?
I would myself have given less units resurrection abilities, but even as it is, it could probably help the problem if they were made less powerful.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted May 09, 2012 09:38 PM |
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Yeah. But if core creatures have perma resurrect, even if weak, it is quite unfair if it takes to get to level 15 for other races to get it as a spell. Maybe the units get resurrect when the stack is big enough?
The most to my liking is some negative effect to resurrection, like HP and/or damage reduction. This one is actually really hard to find a good solution to...
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fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 09, 2012 11:33 PM |
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they could just heal. on champions with stoneskin it would still probably be good.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted May 09, 2012 11:39 PM |
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Why would I heal 15 damage when I can do 176 damage by shooting? No that would make the ablitily useless.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted May 10, 2012 07:48 AM |
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Why would I heal 15 damage when I can do 176 damage by shooting? No that would make the ablitily useless.
Actually, Heal was a pretty good spell in Heroes 3 imo. Not because of the HP it healed - that was only useful with level 6/7 creatures (although with the new increased HP to damage ratios, that would be more beneficial). But the main benefit of Heal was that it removed all negative spells but let positive spells remain. In that way, it was preferable to dispell in many situations.
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