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DarkLord
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posted January 08, 2012 06:37 PM |
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Poll Question:
Return of the Fortress...
the question is..
Should Fortress (H3) return into HoMM series and in which "style"???
please vote and express your opinion
whether Fortress(H3) should be in Ashan or no..
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War-overlord
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posted January 08, 2012 07:00 PM |
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I would love to see a reptilian Swamp Faction in Ashan.
Though not under the name Fortress, as the Dwarves have that now.
So yes, in a new concept.
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hobo2
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posted January 08, 2012 09:45 PM |
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The faction should be like the Lizards in King's Bounty.
Dinosaurs, lizardfolk, and bugs.
Core
* Lizard Warriors
* Serpent Flies
* Basilisks
Elite
* Lizard Priests
* Terrorsaurs
* Doom Beetles
Champion
* Tirex
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blizzardboy
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posted January 08, 2012 09:58 PM |
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I see no reason why I wouldn't, but they don't take priority over Academy or Sylvan for me. I liked H3 swamp Fortress more than H5 dwarf Fortress, but that isn't to say they couldn't do a really good job with a dwarf faction, I just thought the H5 line-up of dwarf, dwarf, dwarf+bear, dwarf, dwarf, dwarf, dragon was pretty damn retarded in a "I can't believe they're paying you a decent salary" sort of way.
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alcibiades
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of Gold Dragons
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posted January 08, 2012 10:35 PM |
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Voted not sure because ... I'm not sure. Isn't Santuary ment to sort of fill the ranks of a lizard faction?
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gnomes2169
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posted January 08, 2012 10:43 PM |
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I voted no, though I wouldn't mind seeing a swampy Fortress again it just doesn't fit in the current setting of Ashan.
Besides, this:
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Isn't Santuary ment to sort of fill the ranks of a lizard faction?
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MattII
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posted January 08, 2012 11:07 PM |
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Edited by MattII at 07:16, 09 Jan 2012.
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Yes, with new creatures, because IMO Lizardmen are less cliché than the rest of them.
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Isn't Santuary ment to sort of fill the ranks of a lizard faction?
Just like Sylvan would have done enough for the elves, but then they gave us Dark-Elf Dungeon. Of course, the difference between DElves and Lizardmen is that Lizardmen aren't just a cheap cop-out.
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DarkLord
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posted January 08, 2012 11:46 PM |
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Edited by DarkLord at 23:47, 08 Jan 2012.
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i voted for a NEW concept!
and i would love to see it based on Slavic mythology
(especially that there are interesting creatures related to swamp)
i mean seriously they include sharkhybrids, made-up "breederators" instead..
why not use more mythological creatures?
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Jiriki9
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posted January 09, 2012 03:45 PM |
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I found it difficult to decide between option 2 and 3, since I don't know where you would see it as "fortress with some changes" and where as new concept...I would like the reeturn of a swamp faction. Even in Ashan, though I'd most love Ashan being scrapped...
As for which new concept..it depends where. I think in Ashan a mostly (not neccessarily only) "Insectoid" or, broader, Arthropodian Concept would be nice, maybe
CORE:
Firefly > Dragonfly
Formicid Guardian > Formicid Warrior (Ant-like Insectoid, possess a swarm-intelligence instead of individual intelligence and Character, making them great basic soldiers)
Leech > Bloodsucker
ELITE:
Centipede
Black Scorpion > White Scorpion
Trilobian (Trilobite-humanoid)
CHAMPION:
Mantis
Just lacking a caster so far...maybe the trilobian though they are designed for tanking by their physiology. Note that though all of these are artthropods, they are quite different...arthropods are a very versatile group of animals
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BlueLore
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posted January 09, 2012 08:11 PM |
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Voted not sure because ... I'm not sure. Isn't Santuary ment to sort of fill the ranks of a lizard faction?
Well Sanctuary is a snake faction and snakes are no lizards  (they are both reptiles though)
However the sanctuary has only 3 reptile-like creatures(2 nagas and the kirin)and is more about purity,but when I think about the h3-fortress I think more about lizardmen and a faction with all kinds of reptile-like creatures.
The Line-up could be:
Core:
-Alraun(Plant-like creatures)
-Lizardman
-swamp monster or something else...
Elite:
-Basilisk(could also be the champion,after all it is said to be the king of all snakes and is known to be extremly deadly)
-Rusalka(a swamp ghost of a woman)
-Wyvern
Champion:
-Hydra
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e-lysander
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Lysander
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posted January 10, 2012 04:36 AM |
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Something tells me the next step will be a Wizard faction... as they are often mentioned in the game, and they're iconic, of course. I, for one, am eager to see newly designed golems, magi and titans.
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ShizueKaryan
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Outcast Fire Witch
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posted January 10, 2012 06:45 AM |
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I miss swamp Fortress of H3 with Hydras, Lizards, Gnolls.
But I don't think it fit in Ashan world of ubisoft.
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Avirosb
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posted January 10, 2012 08:38 AM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 08:38, 10 Jan 2012.
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Don't forget that the faction has to have at least 2 female units, one of which is a designated healer.
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hobo2
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posted January 10, 2012 03:50 PM |
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Don't forget that the faction has to have at least 2 female units, one of which is a designated healer.
That's probably intended as a joke, but it's actually true. In Heroes VI, there actually is a guideline that every faction has to maintain at least 2 female units. And mechanically, every faction that doesn't have a healer is woefully underpowered. The way the game allows any unit to attack any other, it's probably true that any faction you could make without healers is going to be woefully underpowered.
That doesn't mean that one of your two or three female units has to be a healer, after all of the 5 healer units the game has right now - fully one of them is not female (the archlich).
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Avirosb
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posted January 10, 2012 04:35 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 16:36, 10 Jan 2012.
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There are a cfew possibilities.
However, for a unit to qualify, it needs to have either a)breasts, or b)a face feminine enough to be identified as female.
1. Amazon Warrior(esse)s
 Give them golden skin and you have successfully incorporated the Eldorado myth as well.
2. Lizard Rider
 Can be turned into a weak or strong creature, depending on how big the lizard is.
3. Feline Humanoid (*cough*)
I'm not sure about this one. The Rakshasa will likely make a return in an expansion and having two of these seems a little excessive...
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Zenithale
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Zen Mind
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posted January 10, 2012 04:39 PM |
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 10, 2012 05:01 PM |
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Quote:
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Don't forget that the faction has to have at least 2 female units, one of which is a designated healer.
That's probably intended as a joke, but it's actually true. In Heroes VI, there actually is a guideline that every faction has to maintain at least 2 female units...
...That doesn't mean that one of your two or three female units has to be a healer, after all of the 5 healer units the game has right now - fully one of them is not female (the archlich).
Don't make such statements when you do not or cannot back it up with evidence. Yes it is true that there are a large ammount of females in the current heroes VI factions, but that alone is not proof enough that it is guideline.
Still, it is beside the point that this blatant sexism is foolish and serves no purpose whatsoever. There is no need for such an abundance of female units. And if this should be a means to the end of preying on the money of sexually repressed teens, then by far this is the most pitifull attempt I have seen so far.
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xerox
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posted January 10, 2012 05:27 PM |
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I think an indian or mesoamerican Sanctuary mixed with Fortess could be a cool faction for H7.
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hobo2
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posted January 10, 2012 07:09 PM |
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The female units don't need to have boobs or be attractive in any way. The Inferno gets "Breeder Mothers" as their second female unit. It's identifiably female, but it's not humanoid in any meaningful way. Ubisoft simply decided that they wanted gender representation in all the factions. And if you wanted Ubisoft to make your faction idea, it would need to have gender representation as well.
It doesn't need boobs. The egg laying Hayterants of King's Bounty are identifiably female without having nipples. That would totally count.
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War-overlord
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posted January 10, 2012 08:48 PM |
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Ubisoft simply decided that they wanted gender representation in all the factions. And if you wanted Ubisoft to make your faction idea, it would need to have gender representation as well.
1. That does not constitute as proof.
2. As said before, you are taking the creative exercises too serious.
3. The "cashing in on desperate teens" was simply entertaining an idea.
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