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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 10, 2012 09:07 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 09:09, 10 Apr 2012.
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I do not actually know who wrote that even if I have my suspicions..  This kind of thing leaves a bitter taste even after all this time, of shattered hopes, dreams and trust. I do not believe that ubi will give an official answer but.. the truth can be bent a little bit. While I sympathise with BH's position, it's not as simple to say that ubi has all the blame for everything. I recognize that BH worked their @sses off and they loved H6. It is just not easy to discern how much of the H6 vision can be attributed to them or ubi and how much they agreed or protested with the proposed features.
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Only4Dungeon
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 10, 2012 09:09 AM |
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@Adriancat -> nice quote posted above but who was that blackhole worker that posted their response? Are Blackhole not involved anymore in Heroes VI development?
He just quoted the post, seems like the original one was deleted though.
Judging by the fact that BH revealed all this, I guess they are not involved anymore.
Like the orignal poster said, it's only Limbic who works at the game right now so I think no matter how great and capable they are, it's not enough imo.
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I do not actually know who wrote that even if I have my suspicions..
Name of the poster is derpson, I had a hunch that it will be deleted so I saved it somewhere hihi.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted April 10, 2012 09:23 AM |
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Why was it deleted? I would expect this on the Ubisoft boards (where it still stays as a quote by the way) but not on a fans community forum. Legal repercussions?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 10, 2012 09:59 AM |
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It cannot have been one of us, if anything there would have been a public explanation. Not to mention that nothing he said was against the rules so..
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted April 10, 2012 01:52 PM |
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Maybe Adriancat could tell us where it came from......
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted April 10, 2012 02:00 PM |
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From here, it was posted on the previous page.
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted April 10, 2012 02:09 PM |
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yes, trust adrian, esp on ubi forums 
for those that don't know, it's not hard to see the post appeared on last page just before G0bl1n's.
& the user was online in HC ~2hrs ago but didn't delete his second post.
During this lull, I'll mention another counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor: when the customer is late with delivering/finalizing design info or is fluffing around, it is imperative on the contractor to spell out in no uncertain terms that the targets cannot be met unless the info is delivered/finalized by a certain date & will impact on such & such, etc, etc. This has to be done as high priority in writing, not just verbally, & repeated repeatedly in meetings so as to be able to be used as evidence later.
hmm it's still April.
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
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Quique30
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 10, 2012 03:11 PM |
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Maybe the original poster deleted it? Is that possible?
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Kivo
Famous Hero
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posted April 10, 2012 03:36 PM |
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Well, I hope that the Heroes series wont end and that Ubisoft will sell it to a different compay, which knows what homm fans want. I was so excited for Heroes 6 and now all this...
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted April 10, 2012 04:11 PM |
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alcibiades edited adriancat quote, may I ask why?
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted April 10, 2012 04:28 PM |
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I would like to have some light cast on why the original poster deleted his post before we decide what shall remain and what shall not.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted April 10, 2012 04:31 PM |
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alright, no problems then.
But I'm sure that that haven't been lost
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Kenishi
Famous Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
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posted April 10, 2012 04:35 PM |
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Hmm really troubling news, BH out of the picture the game in a bad shape still, and the post of a supposedly former employ comes to confirm that UBI doesn't have a coherent vision with the franchise or interest of keeping it as it is.
1. After H5, the reluctance of Nival to continue work with UBI should have been a indication of bad things to come, but most of us blamed Nival for the semi failure that H5 was, although ToE was a good step forward ... but we hoped and had faith.
2. The constant delay and postponing the release date again a bad sign we hoped they would polish the game, but from the post it seams that UBI didn't have any idea what they should do with H6 changing cutting so fort and so on (if the post is true) and just flushed down the drain a developer and released an crippled game.
3. The way the game was released and the numerous bugs that still plaque it and the fact that even at this moment the release the patches from holiday to holiday (almost from Christmas to Easter) is a lack of involvement and respect for the buyers.
4. The rumors of a possible BH bankruptcy .. again not encouraging ...
All this and the the post (which I incline to believe) make me think that Heroes 6 will die out not of lack of fans or sales but because of incompetency of handling the game franchise by UBI.
5. The conflux which whatever thy say is a disguised DRM, and make the game even more crippled if there is now Internet, or if in the future they take down the conflux servers will make it a joke of a game...
As for the future well UBI created the Might & Magic brand which for me means 2 things:
1. There not going to sell the franchise (pretty much the don't care about the games or universe just the name which draws in players) because there are money to be made even if not from the Heroes Games.
2. Whenever the will have a generic game to release rpg, strategy, FPS (God forbid) or anything related to fantasy genre they can use this new brand and automatically create a connection with the universe that took more than 25 years to create and build.
To close up it, I might sound pessimistic but H6 is a precedent that either will happen again if UBI feel like milking the franchise or is the end of the Heroes games.
And what is most troubling is they could have made an superb game people expected it even the critics were more indulgent with there previews (at list it seamed to me) because they expected a new boost of vitality for the entire series but UBI failed to deliver, am not saying its a bad game but it requires more involvement and work than what they give.
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Hobbit
Supreme Hero
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posted April 10, 2012 04:54 PM |
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted April 10, 2012 05:44 PM |
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Interesting. Sad if true.
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The giant has awakened
You drink my blood and drown
Wrath and raving I will not stop
You'll never take me down
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted April 10, 2012 05:48 PM |
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2. Whenever the will have a generic game to release rpg, strategy, FPS (God forbid) or anything related to fantasy genre they can use this new brand and automatically create a connection with the universe that took more than 25 years to create and build.
I don't think anybody cares about Ashan actually, it failed to become even remotely interesting several times. Among the M&M games on the other hand, Heroes has always been and will always be the only major commercial title, the rest are just for flavour (even though the M&M RPGs spawned Heroes in the first place).
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KingImp
Famous Hero
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posted April 10, 2012 06:12 PM |
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Copy of an original message on AcidCave...
Awesome read! Sad, but awesome.
Finally, someone has the balls to come out, tell it like it is, and throw Ubi under the bus where they deserve to be.
If anyone still believes there should be a Heroes 7 with Ubi in charge, then you deserve to throw your money away on garbage.
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Damian777
Hired Hero
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posted April 10, 2012 06:49 PM |
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morfea_black post on official ubi forum
Will log one more time today and try multiplayer duels. If the sh1t fails again with connection timed out, i just give up...there is NO foking reason to waist my time for checking "fuglisoft" forums or log to game just to see fuglisoft lies and broken promises.
No bugfixes, no transparency regarding ETAs, no working multiplayer? A real success story...
However, if to look on the usual fuglisoft pattern, one can realize how "dedicated" they are to their customers
"Assassin's Creed
-August 2006: Announced for PC, Ubisoft told PC Gamer it was a 2007 release
-September 2007 (less than 2 months before release): Delayed to 2008
Assassin's Creed 2
-April 2009: Announced for November, 2009 release, no mention of any platforms
-September 2009 (less than 2 months before release): Delayed to 2010
Splinter Cell Conviction
-January 2010: After all platforms delayed, April 2010 release date announced
-March 13 2010: Demo announced
-March 17 2010: No PC demo
-March 19 2010: PC version delayed, coming 2 weeks after 360 version
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
-May 2010: Announced for holiday release on all platforms
-September 2010: Delayed to 2011
H.A.W.X. 2
-July 2010: Announced to be coming out in September 2010
-August 2010: PC version delayed to October
-September 2010: PC version delayed to November 1
-October 2010: PC version delayed to November 12
From Dust
-July 8 2011: Announced for release on July 27 on all platforms
-July 25 2011: PC version delayed to August
Call of Juarez: The Cartel
-June 2011: Console versions July 22, PC version August 26
-July 2011: PC version delayed to September
Driver: San Francisco
-April 2011: Announced for September 6 2011
-August 2011: PC version delayed to September 27
-Also, no demo of course for PC
Assassin's Creed Revelations
-May 2011: Announced for November on all platforms
-August 2011: Surprise! No PC demo
-Actual release: December 2nd, 2011"
Heroes6
alfa
delayed
delayed
beta
beta delayed
beta released to live as "endproduct"
beta patched to better beta (almost)
beta patch promises
lies
lies
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beta still has no multiplayer working .
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted April 10, 2012 07:14 PM |
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Finally, someone has the balls to come out, tell it like it is, and throw Ubi under the bus where they deserve to be.
We got only one side version, and probably not very creditable thus quickly deleted after making its little effect.
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Quique30
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 10, 2012 07:24 PM |
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Copy of an original message on AcidCave...
That seems to be the full version. And the one posted here and in other forums, an edition of it.
Unlike the first one, this one explains the amount of bugs in the game and why it's taking so long for the new patches to come out. I'm no programmer, but if that's true, then it's likely a death certificate for expansion aspirations. If it's so difficult to fix small amounts of existing code, I can't see how they'll manage to build upon it.
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