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Thunder
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posted March 08, 2002 07:15 PM |
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Behold! Battle of Death. Necropolis vs Inferno.
Unlike previous battles, players have to now play only with one side. Thus, Necropolis player can't move Inferno troops.
Battle won't begin until both sides have two players, at least. I don't play this time but Djive has joined Inferno. Spells and skills of the opposite side are now hidden from player. I will e-mail or IM the spells and skills to player according to his or her town.
Combat examples:
61 Ogre Magi attack 10 Arch Angels. Attack/Defense (Hero stats counted) difference is +8 for Angels and -5 for Ogres. Arch Angels do base damage of 500 and Attack/Defense (40%) difference increases it to (500*1.40)700 killing 11(660) Ogre Magi and damaging the 12th one (Health 20). Now 50 Ogre Magi retaliate doing 300-600 damage but Attack/Defense(-12%) decreases it to (0.88*(300-600))264-528. Average damage is ((264+528)*0.5)396, so Ogres kill one Angel and damaging second (Health 104).
Overlord`s 7 Black Dragons attack the Ranger`s 7 Gold Dragons (already retaliated). A/D difference for the Black Dragons is -4(-10%). Overlord has Expert Offense while Ranger has Expert Armorer. Black Dragons do (0.90*7*45*0.85*1.3)313 damage, killing one and damaging second (Health 187). 1.3 comes from Offense while 0.85 comes from Armorer.
Ranger`s 63 Grand Elves attack the Battle Mage`s 81 Wolf Raiders (in shooting range). A/D difference for the Grand Elves is +5(25%). Ranger has Expert Archery. Grand Elves do ((1.25+0.5)*63*2*4)882 damage, killing all of the Wolf Raiders. 0.5 comes from Archery.
Archery and Offense have the same methods. If A/D is negative it will affect both Offense and the Archery (reducing the damage done from Offense or Archery). If A/D is positive it wont affect the damage the Offense or the Archery inflicts. A/D difference wont affect the damage reduced by the Armorer.
(Positive A/D + 0.3[Offense] or 0.5[Archery])* Average Damage one Creature does *Number of the Creatures = Total Damage
Negative A/D * 1.3[Offense] or 1.5[Archery] * Average Damage one Creature does *Number of the Creatures = Total Damage
Negative or Positive A/D * 0.85[Armorer] * Average Damage one Creature does *Number of the Creatures = Total Damage
Note that if the creature is out of shooting range (10 hexes), the shooter will do only half damage.
If the attackers Attack skill is higher than defenders Defense skill, then damage is increased 5% per point of difference (up to a maximum of 400%). If the Attack skill is lower, then damage is decreased 2.5% (fractions are rounded down) per point of difference (to a minimum of 30%).
NECROPOLIS
Nagash
Attack: 8
Defense: 7
Spell Power: 12
Knowledge: 13
Spell Points: 260
Units
7 Ghost Dragons (Att 27, Def 24)
14 Dread Knight (Att 26, Def 25)
21 Power Liches (Att 21, Def 17)
36 Vampire Lords (Att 18, Def 17)
63 Wraiths (Att 15, Def 14)
72 Zombies (Att 13, Def 12)
550 Skeletons (Att 13, Def 11)
INFERNO
Ayden
7 7 14 12
Spell Points: 270
Units
7 Arch Devils (Att 33, Def 35)
14 Efreet Sultans (Att 23, Def 21)
21 Pit Lords (Att 20, Def 20)
60 Horned Demons (Att 17, Def 17)
57 Cerberi (Att 17, Def 15)
72 Magogs (Att 14, Def 11)
167 Familiars (Att 11, Def 11)
Unit deployement is (from top to bottom):
Necropolis
Power Liches
Zombies
Skeletons
Ghost Dragons
Wraiths
Vampire Lords
Dread Knights
Inferno
Magogs
Horned Demons
Familiars
Cerberi
Pit Lords
Efreet Sultans
Arch Devils
Creatures Movement Order
Arch Devils: 17
Ghost Dragons: 14
Efreet Sultans: 13
Vampire Lords: 9
Dread Knights: 9
Cerberi: 8
Power Liches: 7
Familiars: 7
Wraiths: 7
Pit Lords: 7
Magogs: 6
Horned Demons: 6
Zombies: 4
Skeletons: 4
Links:
Necropolis troops Inferno troops
Air Spells Earth Spells Fire Spells Water Spells
Secondary Skills
Players joined so far:
Inferno: Djive, sos, Slava14, Snogard.
Necropolis: bjorn190, Fantusta, Ichon.
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Fantusta
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posted March 09, 2002 06:45 AM |
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I officially join on the side of the Necropolis.
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You're unique, just like everyone else. I'm just better.
I'm challenging preconcieved notions you haven't even thought up yet!
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Slava14
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I am 16 now....
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posted March 09, 2002 06:07 PM |
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I would loke to join Inferno side...
ILikeToBeAnnoyingschaaf
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bjorn190
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Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted March 09, 2002 06:44 PM |
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So.. whenīs the fight gonna start?
Also, I just thought of something.. Im probably gonne get interested in this fight, think out a greaaaat tactic, and then someone gonna ruin it and Im gonna cry.. aww
So I guess the best thing is to not take this so seriously?
btw too bad us necro dont get upgraded level 1s skeleton warriors =(
but I guess thatīs ok since we have so many =)
Inferno: Get ready to die!! necro RUELS! =D
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Thunder
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posted March 09, 2002 06:49 PM |
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Fight starts when the Inferno players have decided their Tactics deployement.
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bjorn190
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posted March 09, 2002 07:17 PM |
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Well, these fights are actually pretty interesting.
I just hope the necro side players share my idea on strategy =)
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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted March 09, 2002 07:57 PM |
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We shall see lol.
I think Infernoshould of played against cstle & nec & castle good & evil lol.
I love to help with strategy & since I cant play Bjorn I will play him here hehehehe I will let other players move the pieces but will give advice how to blastthose Necromancers to whence they came  DDDD:
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Fantusta
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who wishes he was high
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posted March 10, 2002 01:49 AM |
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Hey, necro players should either exchange AIM names or even use this antiquated IM system on the board to plan strategy and make sure no one screws it up. My AIM is the same as this, Fantusta. Bjorn, this might help, eh?
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You're unique, just like everyone else. I'm just better.
I'm challenging preconcieved notions you haven't even thought up yet!
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bjorn190
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posted March 10, 2002 02:38 AM |
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I dont know what AIM is, I have icq.
I think IM works great since not everyone has the same stuffs.
Good idea tho Fantusta. Lets talk about tactics suggestions =) make those inferno troops die alot =)
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted March 10, 2002 04:08 AM |
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I wonder what spells everyone has I know that inferno has a 10% or something like that chance to get armegeddon but not sure how you deal with the spells heheheheh.
Time to put the hurt on the Necs & hopefully inferno players dont do nothing crazy or else it will be more challenging DDDD:
darn UNUPGRADED skeletons lol yes.
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sos
Known Hero
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posted March 10, 2002 06:07 PM |
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shouldn't we know if the other side has armorer/offense? In the real game is more difficult to find out, but here we use the average damage so it should be obvious.
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Thunder
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posted March 10, 2002 06:19 PM |
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That should appear quickly enough, sos. However, what I forgot to mention was that there is Spirit of Oppression and Hourglass of Evil Hour in effect.
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Thunder
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posted March 10, 2002 07:18 PM |
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Inferno units wouldn't freeze. Spirit of Opression takes both positive and negative morale bonuses from units.
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bjorn190
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posted March 10, 2002 07:20 PM |
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Yes, due to the great Ghost dragon special. I heop the archdevils freeze, or the demons =D
I canīt imagine how we will determine if something freezes. Maybe we should give inferno a glyph of gallantry or something.
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bjorn190
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posted March 10, 2002 07:23 PM |
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Quote:
Inferno units wouldn't freeze. Spirit of Opression takes both positive and negative morale bonuses from units.
Actually, it only takes away morale bonuses. But itīs eailsy fixed with an artifact that gives +1 morale
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sos
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posted March 10, 2002 07:56 PM |
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inferno only troops have + 1 morale. with ghosts morale is 0. no need for arties.
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Motorschaaf
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Famous Hero
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posted March 10, 2002 09:27 PM |
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I dont know which game and version some of u play but in the game that i play (Heroes3 , version 1.4): Spirit of opression + ghost drags = -1 morale ( if enemy troops are all o one town) 
Newbieschaaf
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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted March 10, 2002 09:58 PM |
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Not sure but if Ghost dragons con decrease morale by one regardless.
Well dont Inferno get +1 on their luck with Arch devil skill regardless.
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Thunder
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posted March 10, 2002 10:03 PM |
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I have SoD. Believe me or not but there aren't any negative morale if the Spirit of Opression is in effect. Actually it is same whether there are those artifacts or not, better take them back though  .
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted March 10, 2002 10:08 PM |
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I remember I was doing a random map with some dif wandering creatures & the spirit of obsession.
Well my morale kept going down even when I was wering it so I think spirit is worthless junky arty orless you can tell me how it works yes.
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