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Thread: Behold! Battle of Death. Necropolis vs Inferno. | This thread is pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 · «PREV / NEXT» |
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Motorschaaf
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posted March 10, 2002 11:21 PM |
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Quote: I have SoD. Believe me or not but there aren't any negative morale if the Spirit of Opression is in effect. Actually it is same whether there are those artifacts or not, better take them back though .
Man i dont believe you. Because u are completely wrong.
Try the following : get 7 differnt stacks from 7 different towns and then give ur hero the spirit of opression...then start a fights and then come back and write again that negative morale can't appear with spirit of opression .
Spirit of opession sets Morale lvl to maximum 0
That means leadership, artifacts or the bonuses u get when all creatures are from same town - they don't count.
but things/effetcs that lower the morale are still working .
Spiritschaaf
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Snogard
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customised
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posted March 11, 2002 02:01 AM |
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Can I join the inferno?
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thunderknight
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posted March 11, 2002 03:54 AM |
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I officially join..............
......... as the spectator.
So, don't worry about any spy
units this time.
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and love what you choose.
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sos
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posted March 11, 2002 05:39 AM |
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Edited By: sos on 10 Mar 2002
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if troops are of the same town - morale is +1. Ghost dragons will reduce this to 0. In this case spirit of oprresion doesnt matter - inferno troops will have 0 morale with or without it.
Motor, I dont know what type of 1.4 you have, but in my 1.4 version creatures of the same type + ghosts = 0 morale (with or without the spirit).
oh yea, and the spirit negates only the positive morale, it doesnt affect a negative morale - the perfect necro artie
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bjorn190
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Jebus maker
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posted March 11, 2002 06:05 AM |
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Quote: oh yea, and the spirit negates only the positive morale, it doesnt affect a negative morale - the perfect necro artie
Yep so letīs just take that lil thing away.. donīt wanna start a fight with the advantage of having the perfect necro artie
Now lets get back to getting those lazy inferno players to line up their troops for the slaughter
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted March 11, 2002 08:20 AM |
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ok whos first hehehe dont forget infernos use your spells wisely
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
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posted March 11, 2002 02:55 PM |
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Quote: if troops are of the same town - morale is +1.
man that wrong.
sure if all from same town morale is +1 but only if NO spirit of opression is active.
if he is active morale is 0 in this case. and ghost drags reduce the morale to -1.
And thats why the spirit is a cool necro art because the opponent has ALLWAYS morale -1 or lower. (if Drags on battlefield).
Moraleschaaf
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bjorn190
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posted March 11, 2002 03:09 PM |
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Iīm not so sure anymore about the spirit of oppression.. I might even go with thunder on this one.. I tested it with 1 side wearing the spirit and 1 ghost dragon, the other side had 1 archdevil. No other troops, no leadership, no morale arts. The devil had normal morale.
I just donīt know what to believe anymore, but I propose that if the inferno side doesnīt set up their troops soon, that the necro players can do it for them
Darn lazy inferno trash..
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sos
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posted March 11, 2002 03:53 PM |
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Motor, you are wrong man. You assume that the spirit negates positive morale first, and then ghosts drop it to -1. Its the other way around - ghosts reduce the morale to 0, so the spirit has no efect. Test it yourself man
I let Djive to arrange Inferno troops and make a first move
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Djive
Honorable
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Zapper of Toads
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posted March 11, 2002 11:52 PM |
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I've made a map to make the first screen on. Inferno players can IM me their ideas on Tactics deployment.
I hate Tactics deployment myself. There are a few things to consider:
Power Liches shoot before Magaogs and they anyway outshoot Magogs.
Because of Liches Death Cloud, we should avoid placing units adjacent to each other.
We have to plan for possibility that Necro side has Expert Haste. (Don't give those 550 Skeletons a target in the first round if we can avoid it.)
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Snogard
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posted March 12, 2002 01:29 AM |
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Thunder, I would like to join the Inferno, may I have the hero's skills and spells ?
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
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posted March 12, 2002 02:28 AM |
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Quote: Motor, you are wrong man. You assume that the spirit negates positive morale first, and then ghosts drop it to -1. Its the other way around - ghosts reduce the morale to 0, so the spirit has no efect. Test it yourself man
I let Djive to arrange Inferno troops and make a first move
SOS please ZM me next time ur on zone. then we can test it . I wanna show ya some freezing devils
Motorschaaf
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Ichon
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posted March 13, 2002 05:06 PM |
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necro
My two fav towns... I'll be necro just to add some players to it. This battle should be interesting to see with INferno having tactics, how they deploy initially gives alot of insight into possible spells they have...
60 Demons and the 57 Cerbei are key units for Infero, skellies are the main one of concern for Necro, though it appears Necro has a lil spell disadvantage just from the familars and less spell power, only 1, but in resurrecti0n or animate dead makes some difference over time.
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Djive
Honorable
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Zapper of Toads
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posted March 13, 2002 09:24 PM |
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Edited By: Djive on 13 Mar 2002
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Ok.. So this is the Tactics deployment.
To the others: I had to make a new pic because the earlier one lacked the First Aid Tent. I took the chance to move two units one step from the last deployment. (Mainly to reduce the possibilities for the opponet to cast area spells. I don't think the new positions will give too much negative impact. At least not as far as I can ses.)
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Ichon
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posted March 13, 2002 09:42 PM |
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Edited By: Ichon on 13 Mar 2002
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Inferno first move
Also first spell... let's see what it is or if they wait, waiting usually means a slow or haste, or some spell which has an readily available counter which negates it and does more damage than your own side gained- but, not always. lol
Course if they have res, they might just wait until AD go then haste then res from then on. Depends if they have expert earth or air or fire...
Fire seems likely given they are Inferno, and I would guess air rather than earth as that was just done and a rez war might get boring.
We'll see from their strategy what spells they have- the more they wait the more likely they have rez otherwise they'd need to kill off some Necro units really fast. Intitial deployment is sort of neutral, with a haste spell all units(excepting PL) could still reach Necro, and it they wait they are a little protected from the worst damage a Necro mass haste would do. Probably waiting to try and force Necro to cast first my best guess.
Necro we shold beware CL, Inferno- and a last ditch armegeddon- plus the normal level 1-3 spells.
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bjorn190
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posted March 13, 2002 11:17 PM |
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Go team necro!
And remember guys..
Donīt kill a stack completely until pit lords are down or we have to fight another 30 demons.
And for gods sake, no more spy units =)
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bjorn190
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Jebus maker
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posted March 13, 2002 11:21 PM |
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And as you can see in the picture.. inferno defends with Efreet sultans and gain 4 defence, ROTFLMAO =D
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted March 13, 2002 11:52 PM |
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Edited By: Djive on 13 Mar 2002
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Andi overall I think Tactics is of little use for Inferno in this case. Any unit placed so that Skeletons can reach them with expert Haste is likely a dead stack.
Indeed, it's almost so that units could all be deployed on the first line and then move forward the unit on the middle hex one step to negate the Liches Death cloud effects. Oh yes, and move away units from the First Aid tent too so it doesn't become a liability.
Edited to add the first move:
I believe it's prudent to wait with the spell at least a little while.
!Archdevils wait!
!It's turn of the Ghost Dragons!
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"A brilliant light can either illuminate or blind. How will you know which until you open your eyes?"
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Fantusta
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who wishes he was high
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posted March 14, 2002 01:27 AM |
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All necro players IM bjorn or me using the board's system and make sure we discuss strategy before big moves are made.
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sos
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posted March 14, 2002 02:05 AM |
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Edited By: sos on 13 Mar 2002
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yea, lets make it fast - Inferno waits until Necro casts a spell or moves a unit, at least until magogs turn.
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