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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 24, 2012 01:23 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 13:23, 24 Sep 2012.
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BTW - which games can we use for answer quiz questions? HoMMVI for sure but what about Dark Messiah, Clash, HoMMV, Duel and other sources?
I thought first this quiz was only about HoMMVI but it's not.
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 24, 2012 01:32 PM |
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I will talk to Elvin about this. All non-lore questions are certainly based on and only on Heroes 6 in it's current incarnation.
Edit: Lore questions are so designed that they are focused on and aswerably only with knowledge of Heroes 6. The Gremlins, Lizardmen and Rakshasas in the beastmen question last round were for bonus points.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 24, 2012 01:53 PM |
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There have been but a few questions that were not purely about H6, one being about heroes that have been in both games and another about unit gender swaps. I didn't think anyone would mind since I'd expect most to know something of H5 since they are here. As for other sources, I generally avoid as not everyone has played dark messiah or clash of heroes and duel of champions isn't even properly released yet  If you want I could keep this strictly about H6, how about that?
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted September 24, 2012 03:07 PM |
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If you want I could keep this strictly about H6, how about that?
IMO, you shoudn't do that. Questions about heroes and gender were very interesting and that's just fine for people to remember H5. But please don't include questions based on abilities' descriptions found on the official site because there're, for example, mutually exclusive ones like skeleton's web spear. IMO, until those desriptions are in the game they can't be trusted.
P.S.: sorry for spelling mistakes if you find some.
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Miru
Supreme Hero
A leaf in the river of time
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posted September 25, 2012 07:57 AM |
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I will talk to Elvin about this. All non-lore questions are certainly based on and only on Heroes 6 in it's current incarnation.
Edit: Lore questions are so designed that they are focused on and aswerably only with knowledge of Heroes 6. The Gremlins, Lizardmen and Rakshasas in the beastmen question last round were for bonus points.
Rakshasas are not beastmen, and I don't remember there ever being Lizardmen in ashan.
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Dave_Jame
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Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 25, 2012 08:16 AM |
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Rakshasas are not beastmen, and I don't remember there ever being Lizardmen in ashan.
Just read this topic. It is all said there
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=37145&pagenumber=2.
In short. Lizardman have been mentioned in the Bio of Falagar in PoSS and Rakshasa have been recomed in the lore book published few weaks back
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 25, 2012 11:34 AM |
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Dave-Jame is correct. Lizardmen have been referenced to in a Bio of heroes from PotSS. And Rakshasas have been retconned as being beastmen in the Ashan Compendium. However as there have been issues with questions from the DLC and not everyone has(had the chance to read a transscription of) the Compendium, the people who knew recieved a bonus point.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 25, 2012 05:15 PM |
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There have been but a few questions that were not purely about H6, one being about heroes that have been in both games and another about unit gender swaps.
There was also one about kicking. You remember deer from CoH?
Anyway thank you for clarification.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 25, 2012 05:37 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 14:01, 28 Sep 2012.
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Not that I remember of, didn't they charge with their antlers first? Either way I never considered them part of the question.
Next round commences at 15:00, see you then
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Sandro400
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Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted September 28, 2012 01:32 PM |
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Next round commences at 15:00, see you then
Could you please specify - 15:00 by what time?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 28, 2012 01:43 PM |
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Gmt +3 as usual. That's in 20 mins or so.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 28, 2012 02:00 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 14:00, 28 Sep 2012.
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ROUND 3!
- Why, despite valuing them as allies, do Naga consider Sharkmen barbaric?
- What Orcs, other than Shamen/Dreamwalkers, can see into the future?
- How can a dreamwalker heal his injuries without heal, regeneration, delivering a melee attack or retaliating?
- Two abilities at war, the more ground one gains the more the other loses.
- Maximum amount of units a hero can place on the battlefield.
- How can you trigger agony without the afflicted unit acting?
- Which elven types are there in Ashan and what is their worship? Name a hero from either (that has appeared in H6).
- Possible ways to harm an ally with unit abilities.
- Walker units that can engage in melee without retaliation.
- What distinguishes the Pao harpies from the rest?
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted September 28, 2012 02:29 PM |
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ROUND 3!
- Why, despite valuing them as allies, do Naga consider Sharkmen barbaric?
They consider their attack utterly uncivilized.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted September 28, 2012 02:40 PM |
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ROUND 3!
1) Maybe because they're beastman and don't use chopsticks? =p
2) You mean Crushers with their "glimpses of enemy's aggresiveness"?
3) Well, with Tranfer Life of Sandro's Staff ))
7) Sylvan Elves - Sylanna (they didn't appeared yet in H6)
Dark Elves - Malassa (Raelag)
Sea Elves - Sylanna & Shalassa (Ciele)
Lake Elves - possibly Sylanna (appeared in H5 Tieru's scenario about Days of Fire, no known heroes).
Moonblade Elves - possibly Sylanna (mentioned in H6 Moonsilk Crystal description, no known heroes).
10) They were created using tropical raptors, that resulted in their bright colours. I think others are not so "colourful" because there're other bird types, like vultures.
P.S.: I'm not really a participant, I will answer only to the lore questions. I just want to test my knowlegde)) Also I answered to the Dreamwalker's question because one of the way is using Sandro's Staff.
P.S.S.: sorry for editing, it only touchs the P.S. part.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted September 28, 2012 03:07 PM |
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- What Orcs, other than Shamen/Dreamwalkers, can see into the future?
Uhh... Earth Shaper/Storm Caller? Otherwise it's a trick question.
- How can a dreamwalker heal his injuries without heal, regeneration, delivering a melee attack or retaliating?
Casting Sky and Earth on himself cancels harmful spells I think
- Two abilities at war, the more ground one gains the more the other loses.
Heroic Charge for sure, and then Sun Crusader's custom charge. (Honorable mention: Prepare for Strike)
- Maximum amount of units a hero can place on the battlefield.
In total? If mana and length aren't an issue, they could summon Elementals on top of the original 7, one of each allowable type, and ofc Inferno has Gating, so I'd say the theoretical maximum is about 18-20
- How can you trigger agony without the afflicted unit acting?
- Which elven types are there in Ashan and what is their worship? Name a hero from either (that has appeared in H6).
Light/Dark elves, light-Sylanna, IDK, dark-Malassa, Raelag
- Possible ways to harm an ally with unit abilities.
Cyclops slam, Jaguar special, Puppet Master(Some abilities keep hurting them for some time, for example Burning Rage), Frenzy, Sentinel's special, Sharp Arrows(though it seems to be bugged now), Blade of Hatred(well, one can attack the afflicted creature via an AoE ability to lift it...), Lacerator's suicide bomb thing, and maybe Ghost's wail, if one brought living creatures as allies, and then placed them foolishly.
- Walker units that can engage in melee without retaliation.
Cyclops, Jaguar Warrior, Kappa, Kirin, Lacerator (All five with their abilities) all the Orcs if Bloodrage is high enough and activated, Sun Crusaders when they charge, Elites and Champs if enemy is intimidated and they attack wisely,
- What distinguishes the Pao harpies from the rest?
This time they don't wear stilettos.  Also, the showy ones were 'made' of tropical animals, not boring old hawks, vultures and such.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted September 28, 2012 03:12 PM |
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- How can you trigger agony without the afflicted unit acting?
Kicking your computer in frustration? Some spell is involved I think... IDK
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Simpelicity
Promising
Famous Hero
Video maker
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posted September 28, 2012 05:04 PM |
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- Why, despite valuing them as allies, do Naga consider Sharkmen barbaric?
Because they are essentially tribal?
- What Orcs, other than Shamen/Dreamwalkers, can see into the future?
The magic heroes. I'd imagine also any orc that takes the vision medecine.
- How can a dreamwalker heal his injuries without heal, regeneration, delivering a melee attack or retaliating?
Injuries and not casualties? You could always end the battle. He'll go back to full HP instantly!
- Two abilities at war, the more ground one gains the more the other loses.
I've no good idea. I wan tto say the ability that gives defense bonus after taking 3 hits and the ability that gives damage bonus after attacking 3 moves in a row, but they don't exactly fit the definition. It's the best I got though.
- Maximum amount of units a hero can place on the battlefield.
At the very start of a battle? 7. But then he can also place elementals, one of each, you get up to 13.
- How can you trigger agony without the afflicted unit acting?
The fate weaver has an ability that triggers such things. You have to be adjacent though.
- Which elven types are there in Ashan and what is their worship? Name a hero from either (that has appeared in H6).
That is a weird mix of H5 and H6 lore. Only one elf appeared in H6, and that's Raelag (the one hero you're searching for, I imagine). The first elves are normal elves, or wood elves, and they worship Sylanna. There's also the dark elves, that worship Malassa.
- Possible ways to harm an ally with unit abilities.
The goblin trap. The cyclops roundhouse punch. The specter wail I imagine could hurt any friendly living units, though why you have living units is beyond me. The marksman's piercing arrow. the ravager/juggy charge. the pit lord's retaliation will hit friendlys if the friendlys, for a reason or another, attacked them earlier.
- Walker units that can engage in melee without retaliation.
This is assuming a simple attack, not a triggered ability? With simple attacks, that'd go with vestals (assuming the ennemy is low enough for pacification to trigger), sun crusaders, any orc walking unit that is fully enraged. If it includes triggered ability such as the kirin's ice breath, let us know and I'll complete the answer.
- What distinguishes the Pao harpies from the rest?
Loooooore. Is this another DLC question like the postal one? I'll say they don't speak the same langage. That was the answer last time.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 28, 2012 07:23 PM |
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- Why, despite valuing them as allies, do Naga consider Sharkmen barbaric?
Table manners - sharkmen don't know how to use chopsticks.
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- What Orcs, other than Shamen/Dreamwalkers, can see into the future?
I don't remember any notification that Shamans can see into future at first place. They have only dreams from Ancestors.
If you mean connection to Spirit Realm than Panther Warriors can summons some wild cats spirits.
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Ahh, right. I nearly forgot about Batu and Goblin Witch Doctors.
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- How can a dreamwalker heal his injuries without heal, regeneration, delivering a melee attack or retaliating?
I assume that heal means no heal for other units and hero artifacts such as Souldrinker's Life Drain or Dragon Flame Tongue?
Well, there are some heroes class specialization as Martyr for Paladin, Divine Intervention for Confessor and Holy Word for Inquisitor.
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- Two abilities at war, the more ground one gains the more the other loses.
I don't know if I understood question correctly but Defender and Assailant? One is Tear skill, other is Blood skill.
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- Maximum amount of units a hero can place on the battlefield.
Seven army stacks. There are also summoned stacks (six kind of elementals), gated Inferno stacks (another seven) and Blade of Binding stack of Juggernauts.
So in theory you can have (with Inferno): 7 + 7 gated + 6 elementals (they don't have water and light magic but can use scrolls) + 1 summoned by artifact = 21.
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- How can you trigger agony without the afflicted unit acting?
Counter-attack. Curses active before unit turn and also when it retaliates.
Also Terror spell - unit flee but first takes damage from Agony. Frenzy spell too as unit attacks adjacent creature but Agony works first.
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- Which elven types are there in Ashan and what is their worship? Name a hero from either (that has appeared in H6).
Elves and Dark Elves.
Elves worship Sylanna, Dragon Godess of Earth, and their creator.
Dark Elves worship Malassa, Dragon Godess of Darkness.
There are also Sea Elves, who worship both Sylanna and Shalassa but they are not another (sub)race but, as you both said earlier, gypsies.
Heroes: Scatha (elf), Raelag (dark elf) and Ciele (sea elf).
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- Possible ways to harm an ally with unit abilities.
Crossbowman piercing shot, Juggernaut charge, Cyclops slam, Fire Elemental fire explosion (if it is in army and dies).
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- Walker units that can engage in melee without retaliation.
Sun Crusader, Hellhound/Cerberus, Tormentor (thanks to active ability), Panther Warrior, Cyclops, Kappa, Sacred Kirin (it's walker and thanks to active ability)
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- What distinguishes the Pao harpies from the rest?
They are created from wild animals living in jungles. They also have corolful wings.
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gnomes2169
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Duke of the Glade
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posted September 28, 2012 08:13 PM |
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- Why, despite valuing them as allies, do Naga consider Sharkmen barbaric?
"The Sharkmen live in a separate society which does not have anywhere near the strictness of honor present in the Naga Empire. This leads the Sharkmen also having a more brutal, and chaotic fighting style."
- What Orcs, other than Shamen/Dreamwalkers, can see into the future?
- How can a dreamwalker heal his injuries without heal, regeneration, delivering a melee attack or retaliating?
"He can use Mother Earth, Father Sky on himself."
- Two abilities at war, the more ground one gains the more the other loses.
"Rush and Tactics II, since one increases movement and the other reduces how far you actually have to move to reach your target.
Also, Rush and any spell/ ability that freezes a target are opposites, as one increases movement by slowly freezing the target and the other pushes them forward.
Same with slow/ haste.
Oh, and teleport removes the need for rush all together, so there's that as well.
Complete list (that I just made up on the spot):
-Rush & Tactics II
-Rush & Freezing spells/ abilities
-Rush & Teleport
-Haste and Slow"
- Maximum amount of units a hero can place on the battlefield.
"A hero may have as many units as he or she can get a hold of, the limit is on unit variety, which is divided into 'Stacks.' A Hero may have up to 7 different unit stacks in his/ her army. These stacks may be all different creatures, or they may be multiple stacks of the same creature, or any combination of the two. It all depends on playing style."
- How can you trigger agony without the afflicted unit acting?
"You can attack them in melee and force them to retaliate, dealing damage to them without giving them a chance to respond."
- Which elven types are there in Ashan and what is their worship? Name a hero from either (that has appeared in H6).
"In H6 you have the 'High' elves who worship the Dragon God of Nature, Sylanna. You also have the Sea Elves, who (as all sea-faring peoples do) worship Shalsa.
In H5, the "High" elven race divides into the Dark elves and Wood elves. Wood elves continue worshiping Sylanna, while the Dark elves convert to the worship the dragon of darkness, Malassa. Of the sea elves, there really isn't a mention. Maybe they went extinct?
Heroes: I only know Realag, and in H6 he is really the first of the Dark Elves..."
- Possible ways to harm an ally with unit abilities.
"Cyclops smash, Juggernaut charge, having a living creature in your undead army and placing them next to your Putrid Lamasu (damages their maximum health, so I don't know if it counts), Putting an enemy under the affects of the Pit Lord's Blade of Hate while only your creatures are close enough to be targeted, Crossbowman's piercing bolts, Being under the effects of the Spring Spirit's ability while the enemy casts Agony or Mother Earth, Father Sky on them (Not sure if this works, but I think it does...). That seems like a pretty complete list..."
- Walker units that can engage in melee without retaliation.
"Crusaders, Cyclopses when they use their smash ability, Lacerators/ tormentors if they use their active ability."
- What distinguishes the Pao harpies from the rest?
"They have the white war paint stuff on them?"
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Miru
Supreme Hero
A leaf in the river of time
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posted September 29, 2012 03:17 AM |
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- Why, despite valuing them as allies, do Naga consider Sharkmen barbaric?
They aren't actually naga, they were just given to them by the wizards. Compared to real naga they are barbaric.
- What Orcs, other than Shamen/Dreamwalkers, can see into the future?
IDK, I'm guessing the answer is something that I would consider another kind of shaman though.
- How can a dreamwalker heal his injuries without heal, regeneration, delivering a melee attack or retaliating?
Seeing as how this is dreamwalker specific, I'm guessing earth and sky procs lifesteal.
- Two abilities at war, the more ground one gains the more the other loses.
Stoneskin / Vampirism is the only two I can think of. I'm sure there is a better answer.
- Maximum amount of units a hero can place on the battlefield.
7+ a summon?
- How can you trigger agony without the afflicted unit acting?
I'm guessing you mean without it taking an action. If you can fear it so that it is forced to act, such as terror it will proc I think.
- Which elven types are there in Ashan and what is their worship? Name a hero from either (that has appeared in H6).
Regular-Sylvas or something, and Dark - Mallassa. I didn't see in what of H6 I've played.
- Possible ways to harm an ally with unit abilities.
Glories sacrifice, Cyclops smash, Marksman peircing bolt, Lilim mind control, Water Elemental frost ring, and maybe ghost/lich/lamasu/fateweaver abilities if you have a mixed army.
- Walker units that can engage in melee without retaliation.
I assume you mean against opponents who still have a retaliation. Vampires, Cerebrus, Kappa, Sun Riders, and you might count centaurs.
- What distinguishes the Pao harpies from the rest?
IDK
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