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Hermes
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posted May 09, 2013 01:01 PM |
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Edited by Hermes at 13:05, 09 May 2013.
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It seems just too easy for peole to get on a hate train.
Being a non-conformist I like to argue naturally, but in this case I just gotta say:
I have played Heroes games since childhood, and started with a first part. I played every part extensively, except fifth, did not like design, townscreens, etc.
And truthfully, for me Heroes 6 is almost perfect, so I would just love to see more content added to it rather then new heroes. I have played Heroes 6 more then all other heroes combined, and I still really enjoy it. So for me, it is hard ti imagine how to improve on it so I expect H7 to be less fun to me, especially if Ubi goes with old skill system and 3d townscreens and ild universe etc.
edit: and seriously, Blob, I got no idea what bugs are you guys talking about. Game is polished to me, and most of the stuff in a bug thread is either simply not true or just laughingly minor to me.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted May 09, 2013 01:07 PM |
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Rest assured, the old universe is not coming back.
When Erwan eventually moves on, we might get another one. But the old one is dead.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted May 09, 2013 01:15 PM |
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I have played Heroes 6 more then all other heroes combined
That explains it all. 
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted May 09, 2013 01:23 PM |
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It does indeed, it exlaina that to me they are much much more fun.
I still have all other heroes and trust me i played a lot of heroes 1/2/3/4 back in tue day.
Long live Erwan !
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 09, 2013 02:38 PM |
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It does indeed, it exlaina that to me they are much much more fun.
I still have all other heroes and trust me i played a lot of heroes 1/2/3/4 back in tue day.
Long live Erwan !
It's hard to trust you especially after you wrote that :
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I got no idea what bugs are you guys talking about. Game is polished to me, and most of the stuff in a bug thread is either simply not true or just laughingly minor to me.
Either you're blind or you're a troll ... or both. Next you'll tell us it's Steam's fault if H6 isn't working there.
Also excuse me but :
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I just doubt that H7 will surpass it.
How can you be that sure that a game that isn't even out yet, that isn't even being developed atm can't be better than what we currently have.
Virtuos has, so far, done a good job with SoD and it's definitely the way they need to go with HoMM, but with Blackhole's poor job, it just is impossible to do much more with the limits of H6's code. With a better handled budget (which clearly wasn't the case with H6), with a less thickheaded approach and with the SAME developer, H7 can become something interesting and better than H6.
The problem right now, is that H6 was flawed from start and anything they're doing now is only like applying a sticking-plaster on an open wound
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted May 09, 2013 03:43 PM |
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Edited by DIEGIS at 15:46, 09 May 2013.
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Long live Erwan !
HA! I remember when this "creature" explained us less mines means more strategy for the game! 
I think he still has in mind the fact the this Homm community is formed from children max 16 yrs old, like in any other shooter games, and just ignored us all. They simply "calculated" if old fans dont like the way they do things - with less money, - no investment at all - others, will take our place ... which was nothing but a big mistake! And they continued with the mess, mixing it and boiled it again and again...and may be they are still doing it our day; theres no reversible way in this!
Regarding the fact that someone knows about what ubi is planning to do next, not to mention that is from this community, i am very doubtfully. I think ubi themself doesnt know exactly whats next...ooops forgot smth...gold!
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 09, 2013 03:48 PM |
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Belive me, Hermes, there are many bugs. Most of them would not have been noticed be me unless someone wrote about them, but there are issues, that's for certain. Issues that I experienced first hand. Un-working abilities, things that don't work like they should be (be it hero abilities or game mechanics) and now something new for me, after SoD, frequent game freezes (this didn't happen to me before in vanilla).
Every new release (be it a patch or an expansion) raises the question: what will they scr#w up this time? Many problems are solved afterwards, but the bad taste stays... all those little things (sometimes big) diminish my trust for Ubisoft. Reduce any hope that the next entry will not have that many problems (I'm getting this deja vu feeling each time). For now I have a feeling that Heroes 7 will be another bug-fest or a let-downer...
As I stated before, I like Heroes 6. I like it's art style, unit line-up, skill tree's and many more. The game is fun, but it's not the best experience you should expect from a Heroes game... not with so many bothersome things...
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted May 09, 2013 04:28 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 16:37, 09 May 2013.
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THE PERFECT GAME
(Image courtesy of Magelord, Celestialheavens)
Hey, has that townscreen-freezing bug been fixed yet?
Would like to try the game again during summer break, but won't if the problem's still there.
On topic; Sylvan, solely because I don't like how the Academy concept art looks.
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted May 09, 2013 05:47 PM |
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Its hard to force yourself to write a reply after insults, but I will do so anyways.
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It's hard to trust you especially after you wrote that :
Seriously mate? Look I couldn't care less whether you trust me or not. I'm not trying to sell you anything, neither am I trying to change your mind. I am merely expressing my opinion about the game on a public forum, whether you like it or not.
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Either you're blind or you're a troll ... or both. Next you'll tell us it's Steam's fault if H6 isn't working there.
And you still failed to mention 'the bugs'  For your interest, some of the bugs(such as Nvidia towscreen) is Nvidia's bug(was confirmed to me by a manager at Nvidia)
I wanted to start listing all those 'bugs' from the thread, you know, serious issues - such as long exit from the game and a copyright(god everytime I read this I just want to slam my head against the wall), but Blob surmised it nicely just below:
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Most of them would not have been noticed be me unless someone wrote about them,
This community is probably the winiest gaming community I have ever seen. Topic '2.1 patch bugs' appeared even before the patch was released, this just shows the prejudice and per-conceived negative views. Then some people complained at poor integration of an expansion 3 days before the expansion was even released! Really?..
Some bugs in the thread, however, simply user-end issue such as 'unable to create custom hero'. Some are specific to PC configuration, only few leftover bugs are general and affect everyone but they are virtually unnoticeable to the majority of people thus I consider them not-important. Looks like some people have either too much free time or OCD..
Avisorb,
what do you think of Sylvan arts? I like them, but they look too green to me..
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted May 09, 2013 07:32 PM |
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This community is probably the winiest gaming community I have ever seen.
Eh, I'd say it's pretty warranted.
You're simply one of the lucky few who's had no bad experiences with Ubi, Uplay, Conflux OR the game itself.
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what do you think of Sylvan arts? I like them, but they look too green to me..
I honestly have no idea. I've only seen old art from the Nival period, I don't think I've seen anything connected to H6.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted May 09, 2013 07:50 PM |
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This community is probably the winiest gaming community I have ever seen.
Yeah, blame the community because the game is filled with bugs, bad service from Ubi and so on. Genius!
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Topic '2.1 patch bugs' appeared even before the patch was released, this just shows the prejudice and per-conceived negative views. Then some people complained at poor integration of an expansion 3 days before the expansion was even released! Really?..
Now, how is the whiner?
Of course it was made before it was out....Why? I think it's pretty obvious, but I'll give you two solid reasons:
1) The game had a veeeeeeeeeeery bad record with bugs. Beta had a lot of bugs, Vanilla game was out with a lot bugs, 1.2 left the game with still quite a lot of bugs, and every single Limbic patch messed something (sometimes a lot). Being realistic, you WOULD expect bugs from this patch.
2) There's one thing called 'prevention'. Better have everything on one single topic instead of having a lot of topics opened on the forum once the game is out, imo.
Worst of all, I just realised I opened the topic the 2 of May at 7:43 p.m., that's on the same day the game was out lol.
You give the impression H6 is your "toy" and noone can't touch it or criticize it. You should take the opinions of others lighter, imo.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 09, 2013 10:39 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 22:40, 09 May 2013.
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Well I did report some bugs before May 2nd, back in the 1.8 bug thread That is because I got the game before release. And, although Conflux based bugs were fixed in 2.1 (for instance blocked content), some were not. The game freezes very often for me (it started before the patch 2.1, when I installed SoD), and I repeat: there were no such problems in vanilla. Sure, there were some freezes, but those were rare. And now I get like 5 freezes per hour (more or less, based on my luck  ). It could be something with graphic drivers, I installed the newest one about two months ago. But I'm afraid I can't downgrade it, because I'm also playing Heart of the Swarm from time to time, and it needs the newest drivers otherwise it's unplayable (some shader problem).
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted May 09, 2013 10:43 PM |
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Guys, please keep this discussion on topic and civil and refrain from personal attacks, or I'll close the thread. And no, I don't really care who started it.
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What will happen now?
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted May 10, 2013 08:37 AM |
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Edited by natalka at 08:43, 10 May 2013.
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I think I will stand for Hermes.
When I got the game there were no challanging enough custom maps for me. That's why I created my own. Then I saw how stupid it is that there are no battle sites but I created my own. Then I put 4 new map objects. Now I play my map and I'm very satisfied with the results. Bugs are very minor - pressed attack on mobile shooter and blazing glory bug. But if that happens we grant each other a reload. Nothing can spoil the game for 2 birds in love with themselves and the game.
When I got the exapnsion my save was lost. That was at least 12 hrs on a hard map. However, I didn't whine but instead put utopias and training centre on my map and the same night we started a new game. On day 1 we saw faceless guarding a new artifact. So we immersed in the expansion, moreover I selected Dungeon! The map hasn't changed much - before I had my variant of Dragon tope - but has new life with new neutrals in some places. My bf had horde shadow lurker on the crystal mine. To our surprise those eyes had little army power so they were 70. There is no other shooter with this little power and so huge dmg. This adds a whole new level. We just finished w1 and I am sure there will be more surprises. Can't wait to fight in the dragon tope!!
Just play the game and enjoy it. When you play against a decent opponent I can play the same map all over again like I did in h5. Wait a little more for good custom maps and a few patches and it will be a perfect game. I feel I play h5 with graphics mod and different mechanics . I don`t miss anything from it. If you thought h5 was good than maybe a good custom map can change your opinion about h6.
Or maybe it is just me but I love this game!
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted May 10, 2013 09:01 AM |
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Or maybe it is just me but I love this game!
So...Academy or Sylvan for second expansion?
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted May 10, 2013 11:05 AM |
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Natalka, your post just makes me wanna play your map
Avirosb, here!
http://might-and-magic.ubi.com/universe/en-GB/universe-world-ashan/factions/index.aspx
do click on sylvan
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted May 10, 2013 11:12 AM |
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Neither of the Sylvan artworks shown there are that new.
The Bladedancer has been around since before Heroes V.
The "Lynx" rider has been around since before/in development Heroes VI, so before Stronghold was revealed, people were speculating that this artwork indicated that Sylvan would have been the 5th faction.
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GMnemonic
Hired Hero
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posted May 10, 2013 11:24 AM |
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Or maybe it is just me but I love this game!
So...Academy or Sylvan for second expansion?
Both! And that should be very clear
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 10, 2013 12:19 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 12:20, 10 May 2013.
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Academy would be nice because it already has (theoretically) a full creature line-up which I like.
I played Heroes V not so long ago and I must say Fortress is a really nice faction. It needs a bit more variety, as it has too many dwarf-like units. Bear riders should stay, that Valkyrie concept is nice (although another Glory-like unit would be controversial probably), and Vulca-dragons are a must (I like Arkath's art, those dragons should be based on his concept).
Sylvan is a faction I like the most from the lot so I vote for them. The Lynx Rider would be a nice new, maybe Elite, unit which I'm looking forward to see. And definitely Unicorns as those are a symbol of the faction and Heroes series as a whole imo (what I mean is a unit that was always there, Heroes VI is the first entry without them  )
The best choice would be all three, but I think Academy is the closest one to see an expansion (I highly doubt two factions).
BTW I wonder how the sales went for SoD. There was quite a hype about it in my country, wonder if the sales satisfied Ubi, and they will resume work on the second expansion. I think that at least some stuff was already worked on, BH probably left something, but Ubi decided to make Dungeon to appease the fans, as it's one of the most popular factions...
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted May 10, 2013 12:59 PM |
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That Valkyrie concept is nice (although another Glory-like unit would be controversial probably)
Palette-swapped Sarah=New Valkyrie unit.
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