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master_learn
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posted April 24, 2013 08:07 PM |
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At Halon Sal may already have the "blind" scrolls.
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OvidiuG
Known Hero
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posted April 24, 2013 08:23 PM |
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He plays MoS
I was about to write that with these attack / Defense values AI has , buying stats might be necesary
Did you attack before phoenixes? or not enough speed?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted April 24, 2013 08:55 PM |
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Well, Piquedram was weird, I had 31 speed with prayer so moved first of course. I got cornered with only one stack, he had fear almost every time and I had morale EVERY time. Yet when he finally got to hit, it wiped almost all devils. This was with 350 HP or increased damage. As soon as I boosted defense from 70 to 1xx I lost only half of them, then quick shield.
Galthran gone too 4.4.3. Remember that on Hell he has 1/3 less army, I needed to reload until got death blow on lyches, then dispel every round because he kept casting shield and damage not enough to wipe him before efreets are gone. With dispel he died at right time, lost only 4 devils to towers.
Galthran Hell, for who is interested.
Now I have to head back to Zydar, that one gotta be annoying, but I am much stronger now, will see. Month 5 soon and I need to beat King of lyches too. Not easy that fight if lyches have HP*2.
1200 mithril laying there down ONLY for me, Selena gave the key:
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Biobob
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the Bobler
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posted April 24, 2013 09:37 PM |
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Nice map name you have there!
This thing looks awesome, just a few questions (wasnt able to read the whole thread):
-Which is harder: MoW or MoS (guess the others are easier, even if I dont get why MoD is "easy", bonus seems mediocre to me (to defend myself: dont know much about all this WoG stuff)?
-What are spoils of war?
-What do you get as reoccuring special bonus, movement or mithril (1st post didnt make it clear)?
I will surely try this, seems like ~Rise of the sun king~ tests will have to wait...
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master_learn
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posted April 24, 2013 09:40 PM |
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Interesting ability for the mightmare:
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted April 24, 2013 09:41 PM |
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Actually is quite hard to explain if you never got hand on wog, but here is the list of the available factions, pasted it from erm:
{~Gold}MASTERS of DEVILS{~}
» Can upgrade Devils and Archdevils to Hell Barons. Through upgrades, Hell Barons can achieve 300 damage and 1500 HP maximum (excluding the Magic Shop).
» Can select their special bonus.
» When visiting the devil's camp, Hell Barons's Lair will open, and every 2 weeks you can get a free random upgrade for your Hell Barons (damage, health or speed).
» Inferno towns will produce devils and Hell Barons.
» Hell Barons start with internal fear and fearless abilities.
» If leaving a Hell Baron in any mine (except abandoned), that mine will produce 1000 additional gold daily. You can call back all guards later by using the Call to Arms button.
{~Gold}MASTERS of SPEED{~}
» Can upgrade movement at The Royal Stables.
» Starts with all lighthouses.
» The cost of speed upgrades is halved and all Inferno creatures start with +1 additional speed.
» Spoils of war increased by 1/3 for Master of Speed.
» Every Creature Bank defeated same day and by the same hero, will give 1 additional mithril and is cumulative with previous (+1, +2, +3 and so on).
» Invaders will drop Angelic Alliance components.
» Can sell Admiral Hats, Boots of Speed and Equestrian Gloves at the Devil's Camp.
» Each Hero will receive the "Runner's pack" when first visiting the Royal Stables.
» If leaving an ArchDevil in any mine (except abandoned), that mine will produce 1000 additional gold daily. You can call back all guards later by using the Call to Arms button.
{~Gold}MASTERS of ELEMENTS{~}
» Spells will inflict double damage/effect in combat.
» Can increase the slow spell effect up to +4.
» Can use teleportation shrines for instant travel (gets one every month).
» Can cast twice both vs AI heroes and neutral armies.
» Once the Fire bonus unlocked, can get scrolls of blind from Devil's camp and use them in battle. After usage, the scroll will vanish.
» Every Master of Elements hero starts with God of mana. Except Commodus.
» If leaving an ArchDevil in any mine (except abandoned), that mine will produce 1000 additional gold daily. You can call back all guards later by using the Call to Arms button.
{~Gold}MASTERS of WEALTH{~}
» Every hero produces resources and mithril every day, based on his level.
» Training cost is halved.
» After 5 towns conversions, the price will stop doubling and remains stable.
» Invaders will drop the Grail (up to 6).
» If leaving an ArchDevil in any mine (except abandoned), that mine will produce 1000 additional gold daily. You can call back all guards later by using the Call to Arms button.
M_L, first time I see that. Weird, looks like z variables conflict with hardcodes.
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
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posted April 24, 2013 09:48 PM |
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Looking again into bugged ability,it seems that my haste spell definition is bugged.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted April 24, 2013 09:53 PM |
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Yes, you play MoD, right? I fixed this issue time ago, see post on 14 April, 6th page. Now using clean vars to modify spell name.
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master_learn
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posted April 24, 2013 10:06 PM |
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I put the latest commodus.erm from 24th and still decription is not right.
Does it mean I have to reinstall TEW4 first?
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OvidiuG
Known Hero
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posted April 24, 2013 10:10 PM |
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@ bob, spoils of war is the Earth (3rd) Bonus unlocked upon having 180 spells upgrades. It provides resources as a bonus every won battle, depending on army you've defeated.
every 50 battles won your hero will get a "special level-up, when he gets as a reward permanently movement points and one of the following : mithril, orb of fire, 10 to all stats (think this is possible only once), devils ando something else I think , can't remember. 1st special level up is always mithril , after that is Radodom of the above.
Master of Devils can choose his bonuses.
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Salamandre
Admirable
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Wog refugee
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posted April 24, 2013 10:23 PM |
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
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posted April 24, 2013 11:06 PM |
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M4w4 Broghild
Now I will joyfully fight Arena.
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Salamandre
Admirable
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Wog refugee
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posted April 24, 2013 11:24 PM |
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ML, no idea why those two z vars get messed, maybe hardcoded abilities use some of them and we aren't aware. I changed them to lower (z78/z79) and everything will normalize when you will visit again the barons lair, tested. Until then, you will read strange things in haste/frenzy description, it changes every day.
Commodus.erm
Hell damage/attack/defense not so impressive, Aine passed.
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OvidiuG
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posted April 25, 2013 02:02 PM |
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Salamandre
Admirable
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Wog refugee
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posted April 25, 2013 02:09 PM |
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5.2.3 Aine. Will be a bit slower from now because arena gives a LOAD of resources on fight, so I need to visit it every day until I have fire bonus. And Arena above level 4 is most of time not doable, they move too fast. If I can take Fafner before month 6 I will be happy, the fights after him are easier.
btw, did I say Arena and dragons cave gives spoils of war on Hell? Well, it didn't, fixed.
Commodus.erm
Now it does, works with saves.
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OvidiuG
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posted April 25, 2013 02:19 PM |
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Ok, very nice progress, very fast. Somehow forced. Dat Supreme Archangel already 1.8 k Hp...
the other factions will need some attention to make em competitive. I'd say a mix of movement rate and army power. If you get fafner before month 6 there's nothing to stop you finishing map in m6. but is it doable in month 7+?
I'll try my luck on a MoS game these days. Will keep you briefed.
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Salamandre
Admirable
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Wog refugee
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posted April 25, 2013 02:28 PM |
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Quote:
Dat Supreme Archangel already 1.8 k Hp...
Heh, I wish it had only. What you saw is after frenzy, here are supreme stats month 5:
Archies:
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alisapa1211
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posted April 25, 2013 02:41 PM |
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Hm seems to like being able to upgrade damage and health indefinitely will cause lots of confusions (because the feature has never been implanted into the map before) and require lots of new strategies to upgrade properly. Before just upgrade damage to max, then health, then def and finally atk if you are luxury, now you have to mix between health and damage in a balanced way, sometime a bit speed and def here and there, or save Mithrils to upgrade Demons instead, etc.
May you do a quick MoE test in Hell Sal?!
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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
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posted April 25, 2013 02:47 PM |
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Demons are still very weak, only 30 damage. I use most of special levels bonuses either for devils or orbs of fire, because CB's are scary (cyclops: 400 HP).
Even in dwarven treasuries, if 4x30 stacks hit you, you lose one devil. I want to finish it (or try at least) with MoS first. I already said you don't need to worry about MoE, will be the best in hell. With such resurrect x8, you only need to survive one attack.
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alisapa1211
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posted April 25, 2013 02:53 PM |
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Well on the bright more Health + better stats also equals more spoils of war right?
Actually sometime 2 turns or more, assume that you only have one stack left you have to use Wait instead of attacking (which means lowering the damage received) to Double Cast, yes quite an annoying feature of double cast but I assume that there is no other way to fix it.
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