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Elvin
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posted March 21, 2014 03:22 PM

The idea itself is good but it seems pricey for me.
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posted March 22, 2014 05:57 AM

watcher83 said:
Speaking of spells why in hell would they take ALL the good fire spells, except for firebolt?

I think they took away game changing cards, i.e they don't want one card to be played that can swing a game heavily, so the likes of fireball and geyser are out as we know what they can do...

That special offer does look cool, but 20 euro, man they want to milk it don't they!

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posted March 22, 2014 07:46 AM
Edited by watcher83 at 07:46, 22 Mar 2014.

geyser is not out, and I was referring to mass inner fire and fiery weapon & armageddon - the ff and fb I can understand why they we're taken out
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posted March 22, 2014 07:48 AM

If you look at your list DD. You will notice that geysers are still in. The reason they are and Fireball is not imho are:
Geysers are rare.
Gaysers do not do as much dmg as Fireball
They primarely got rid of AoE spells (Like Tsunami and Clashing tides) so when picking 3 rare cards for the 2nd base set they had only Geysers, Ink Warrior, Shalassas blade and Blizzard to chose from. I think they did not chose Blizzard for its randomnes and and the fact it is a rather weak spell.
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posted March 22, 2014 09:49 PM
Edited by watcher83 at 21:42, 23 Mar 2014.

Do not know if it was talked about before but concerning changes to cards that will affect the open format biggest one I found analyzing the list again is magic peddler requires 1/0/2. This means ff will come one turn slower, which in my opinion is a big thing.


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posted March 24, 2014 07:41 AM

Apologies, yes Geyser is in (should've checked my list properly *face palm*!)

New creature artwork (looks like he might have quick attack):



Then some other news:

With Heart of Nightmares right around the corner, I think it’s time to talk about the theme of the next season of expansions. We will now have creature types and school types attached to creatures, which gives us the opportunity to create exciting gameplay revolving around certain creature types. You won’t be referring to your Necro deck, but to your Vampire deck.

The next year of expansions will explore different ways to build tribal strategies. Starting with Heart of Nightmares, you’ll have new gameplay directly tied to a specific creature type. We’re also adding school types to creatures, both existing and new.
Not all creatures have a school type, only the most powerful ones, or ones using school-specific abilities. Those creatures don’t require you to play a specific school to play them; it just adds more depth to their gameplay.

Refreshing yet familiar!
Anael is an Angel from Haven, but she’s also a Dragon Knight, transforming into a Dragon of Light. Dragon Knights aren’t bound by their allegiances, they work for the people of Ashan and they strive to preserve its balance. As long as you embrace Light magic, Anael can be on your side.

We decided to spread our Dragon Knights over more than one series, we will preview the 2 remaining shortly, while you’ll have to wait a bit more for the rest. For now, we’ll let you guess which character is a Dragon Knight and which school they represent!

Note by Aza: the magic school referenced in the title (here it's "Light - Angel") means that the damage from that creature will be of that school. If you are using protections against a certain school of magic, then damage from a creature of that school of magic will be affected by the protection.
The word "aligned" in the description (here it's "Light alined") means that you can only play that creature if your hero uses the same magic school. In this example it means that you can only play Anael with heroes that use the Light magic school.



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RMZ1989
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posted March 24, 2014 10:08 AM

Both artworks are amazing, but I am a bit confused about Anael.

She is different now, stronger body but arguably weaker abilities, costs a lot more and is neutral creature?

This is her other form or something like that?
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posted March 24, 2014 10:50 AM

Yep. this is Anael as a Dragon knight. Looks like the new set of Epic creatures will be based on dragon knights, they will all be neutral, not limited by faction, but will be limited by magic school

Example, This Anael, can be played by most Haven heroes (except Sandalphone), Zordoc, Asalah, Ishuma and Keiko.

But I don't think she will be as strong as her standard version.

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posted March 24, 2014 12:13 PM

You mean her open version

No counters can be placed on her....will Enthrall/Puppet work on her?

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RMZ1989
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posted March 24, 2014 01:07 PM

DoubleDeck said:
You mean her open version

No counters can be placed on her....will Enthrall/Puppet work on her?

Of course, those are not counters...

But Decay Spitters, Hasahaf and other counter based creatures will be useless against her.

Right now she isn't that strong, that might change when we see new expansion as whole. Devs said that they have tried to give her "Ward against Darkness", but she was too overpowered.

I would at least lower her Might requirement down by 1.

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posted March 24, 2014 01:07 PM

Those are spell cards, so yes they will. She is inmmune to Cripling, poison, and any other counter tha could appere in the future.
Just like Immaculat glory, but dues not have any ward, so all spells work on  her.

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posted March 24, 2014 02:39 PM
Edited by watcher83 at 14:45, 24 Mar 2014.

Creatures look very good.
I can't recall any light using hero that goes to 6 might though, and Garant doesn't have light so no use for her with gates.
I think haven Anael is still in standard not only in open - in regards to what has been said above.
I would bet that Vein's daughter from SoD campaign might be the dragon knight of darkness. As the third one is concerned I think it will be of water though I have no idea who he\she\it might be.

I'm starting to hate the fact that there is yet another expansion though no freakin' dungeon, why the hell am I saving up to 8000 seals?
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RMZ1989
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posted March 24, 2014 04:15 PM

watcher83 said:
Creatures look very good.
I can't recall any light using hero that goes to 6 might though, and Garant doesn't have light so no use for her with gates.
I think haven Anael is still in standard not only in open - in regards to what has been said above.
I would bet that Vein's daughter from SoD campaign might be the dragon knight of darkness. As the third one is concerned I think it will be of water though I have no idea who he\she\it might be.

I'm starting to hate the fact that there is yet another expansion though no freakin' dungeon, why the hell am I saving up to 8000 seals?

Nobody expected Academy, everyone were expecting Dungeon. What this means? This means that next faction could as well be Sylvan or Fortress, so don't expect much.

Having expansion out at the same time BS2 will be out is huge, a lot of work was put into this and I don't expect new faction to come anytime soon.
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posted March 24, 2014 04:18 PM

watcher83 said:
I would bet that Vein's daughter from SoD campaign might be the dragon knight of darkness.

That would depend on the timeline. The way I understand it, forgotten wars transpire a few decades before H6 and Zakera is only born about 80 years after H6. But.. Cate would still be alive at the time. I liked her.
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posted March 24, 2014 04:23 PM
Edited by watcher83 at 17:27, 25 Mar 2014.

I'm curious how many of the new cards will find a place in open decks, I mean this one isn't viable even in standard.
Regarding dungeon - I have been waiting for dungeon since the first expansion and I will continue to do so until it comes out or the game dies, it's just that it frustrates me a little bit

EDIT - NEW CARDS presensted on the official forum, they look cool but as the new Anael meh.
Lol at the Pao Warchief - if might is 10 or higher creature gains +3 att and quick attack ( being a 5 cost 4 might 3/3/6 creature); this surely is the most trollish unit yet.
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RMZ1989
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posted March 25, 2014 07:12 PM

You can see new cards here.

Actually, all of them seem better than new Anael, to be honest.
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posted March 25, 2014 07:17 PM

New cards:


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watcher83
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posted March 25, 2014 08:06 PM

RMZ1989 said:
You can see new cards here.

Actually, all of them seem better than new Anael, to be honest.


So you think pao warchief can be used? Enlighten me by telling me in what deck.
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RMZ1989
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posted March 25, 2014 08:14 PM

watcher83 said:
RMZ1989 said:
You can see new cards here.

Actually, all of them seem better than new Anael, to be honest.


So you think pao warchief can be used? Enlighten me by telling me in what deck.

Decks are gonna change a lot, I don't know what deck. Just take a look at cards, there will be a lot of new, tribal decks because most of the cards are suited for them. And we still don't know what other cards will look like and how good they will be when comboed with these cards.

For example, Death Lord isn't that good on its own and Necropolis has only Vampire Knight that is playable, we won't see Vampire Lord I assume, so it means that they will introduce at least one more Vampire creature, and who knows what that Vampire will give to other Vampires/Undead.
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posted March 25, 2014 08:19 PM

Maybe you know more than me, but 6 might for academy is a lot; the death lord is mediocre at best and Tainted Orc >>>>>>>> Pao Warchief.
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