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seraphim
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posted April 12, 2014 10:13 PM |
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Seems like Donetsk region is next. The liberation militia has seized another building.
Check your news people. I wonder how they want to justify Donetsk now.
I wonder how ukraine will pay its debt when some of its territory is under the jurisdiction of another state...
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kipshasz
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posted April 12, 2014 10:17 PM |
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Edited by kipshasz at 22:18, 12 Apr 2014.
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edited it out a bit so you'll get it.
Also, i think that Donetsk is outraged by the terms of the IMF so that's why they're so restless there.
also I've heard that China basically owns 5% of Ukraine's land or so, due to debts. Looks like there's more crap going on.
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ihor
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posted April 12, 2014 10:23 PM |
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I already mentioned, separatists are doomed without Russian army. On the worrying note it was said that group of 30 separatists in slaviansk today had guns, which only Russia uses, and one of their leaders on an interview to Russian TV said he is from Tula(Russia). But the information is not confirmed, might be wrong.
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ihor
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posted April 12, 2014 10:25 PM |
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Haha Kip, you made me laugh. Outraged by loans of IMF. I think 90% of them doesn't know what the abbreviation IMF stands for.
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NoobX
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posted April 12, 2014 10:29 PM |
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So, tell me, why can't all of the Slavs swallow their pride and form a single, united country?
Kind of what Austria and Hungary did when Austro-Hungary was formed. It seemed to work out very well for them until they were separated after WW1... 
Or is it a lot more complicated than that?
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ihor
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posted April 12, 2014 10:33 PM |
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@NoobX
Hmm, maybe because we are differen?
It's like suggesting Japan and China to unite because they look similar.
Everybody has its own history, heroes, victories and defeats.
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kipshasz
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posted April 12, 2014 10:34 PM |
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I wouldn't make fun of other people's intelligence considering how easy it was to manipulate people like you into installing this junta of yours. you're in deeper crap right now than before, and the sooner you realise it, the better.
Sure, they may not know what that stands for, all they need to know is the terms they'd layed out, and how that basically doomed the country.
be prepared to pack your bags, I heard that Scandinavian foresters are looking for cheap labor.
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ihor
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posted April 12, 2014 10:39 PM |
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Go and review videos of separatists to understand what they want. In short:
1. No single word about IMF, pensions, salaries, economy...
2. Russia! Russia! Russia!
3. Fascists in Kiev, they will come here for us!
4. Glory to Berkut.
Similar non-sense.
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Zenofex
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posted April 12, 2014 10:42 PM |
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Quote:
What is wrong with that guy (Parubiy)? He is not from Svoboda
So it is wrong where it reads that he's a co-founder of the predecessor of Svoboda?
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kipshasz
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posted April 12, 2014 10:46 PM |
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I wouldn't base my opinion on some heavy edited and censored vids where they only show what is "needed" to be shown. Show that the mass is a bunch of nitwits, and presto! Success.
You know Ihor, after you posted all that in the math thread a while back I really thought you were a smarter person that can form his own opinion without any interferance. Now you seem like you been brainwashed by someone really nicely. c'mon, you're better than this.
Sure you stood there, fought for your rights, that's cool.
But at least you guys can pull a riot which actually lasts. Here, they'd all be gassed and shot with rubber bullets before crap really hits the fan. But, hey, democracy! We have it! Hooray!
And what's berkut? just some riot police? or counter terrorist branch? they're just grunts following orders, like the protesters were in maidan.
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ihor
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posted April 12, 2014 10:48 PM |
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@Zenofex
He used to be a right-wing activist, but that was so long time ago, that few people remember this. I heard that also, but I was too young in early 90s, so I don't remember. Last 10 or more years he was not in radical parties... Yuschenko's party, then Tymoshenko's...
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ihor
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posted April 12, 2014 10:56 PM |
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@Kip
1) You said the reason of the protests is IMF stuff.
2) I said that it is not, because I have seen plenty of videos with separatists. They should say what they demand, right? If there are no demands to improve economy, then where did you find this? From the sky?
3) Now you say that I am brainwashed, didn't you notice that there is no logic at all in what you are saying. Maybe it is you, who is brainwashed?
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GunFred
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posted April 12, 2014 10:59 PM |
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kipshasz said:
be prepared to pack your bags, I heard that Scandinavian foresters are looking for cheap labor.
Hey Ihor, if the above is going to happen anyway, how about joining your fellow blue and yellow northern brothers? We are not NATO members BUT we hate Russia. Fairly balanced I think as then Russia does not get a NATO neighbour yet you guys will become more resistant towards Russia. Our government is relatively fair and corruptless, our society very humanitarian and while we are not rich like trolls (unlike greedy norwegians), perhaps we can stabilize the economy a little. We are also in dire need of manpower, which Ukraine got plenty of, if we are to have any future ambitions. So with ukrainian manpower and swedish leadership, let us dye the world blue and yellow!  
You know you want to Ihor... 
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seraphim
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posted April 12, 2014 11:00 PM |
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NoobX said:
So, tell me, why can't all of the Slavs swallow their pride and form a single, united country?
Kind of what Austria and Hungary did when Austro-Hungary was formed. It seemed to work out very well for them until they were separated after WW1...
Or is it a lot more complicated than that?
For the same reason people begin to blame immigrants when the economy of a country goes bad.
When the economy of a federation, union goes bad, people abandon the sinking ship and start to shoot at each others ships. Cmon, you live in serbia, you should know that. Croats, bosnians and serbs are mostly the same ethnicity, yet when yugoslavia's economy was going downhill, everybody started their own thing and went haywire.
With losing wealth, the respect and power of a federation or a country vanes.
FYI, Austria is doing pretty well now, Hungary not so much.
Austria even has a fetish in getting balkan countries Bosnia and Serbia into the EU.
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kipshasz
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posted April 12, 2014 11:01 PM |
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now go all brennuswhiskey on me and say I'm a russian spy or something. I've been dealing with this crap way to much lately.
and that which I said about the IMF is my theory on why all the other ruskies are mad. it isn't supposed to be a 100% true credible source! who snowing know on what the actual snow they're upset about.
@Gunfred: hold on a second, aren't you vikings very discriminative on immigrants? I mean, c'mon just look at stuff xerox sometimes belches out.
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seraphim
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posted April 12, 2014 11:05 PM |
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Edited by seraphim at 23:05, 12 Apr 2014.
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kipshasz said:
now go all brennuswhiskey on me and say I'm a russian spy or something. I've been dealing with this crap way to much lately.
and that which I said about the IMF is my theory on why all the other ruskies are mad. it isn't supposed to be a 100% true credible source! who snowing know on what the actual snow they're upset about.
What, you are a russian spy? No, you cant declare HC a russian territory. HC is owned by the respectable HC member Ghost.
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ihor
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posted April 12, 2014 11:07 PM |
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Nice plan GunFred 
I sometimes cheer for Sweden in soccer or ice hockey, because they are cool in blue and yellow
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kipshasz
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posted April 12, 2014 11:08 PM |
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you fail Seraphim. HC is Already Russian product, Val is Russian.
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GunFred
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posted April 12, 2014 11:28 PM |
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kipshasz said:
@Gunfred: hold on a second, aren't you vikings very discriminative on immigrants? I mean, c'mon just look at stuff xerox sometimes belches out.
Hardly, swedes are such über good people in general that there is a huge taboo on being racist, xenophobic, sexist or generally discriminatory. Sometimes it can become a little too much but it works well for is and makes us one of the most humanitarian people in world history. Unfortunatly even here, rightwing radicals are slowly but steadily rising but make no mistake. Either you are a part of the up to 10% who are generally evil or cowardly people, or you are part of the 90% of people who absolutely resent those 10%.
Also, the vikings were the rolemodels of tolerance of their time. They plundered, explored and trade all over the known and unknown world which eliminates them as racist xenophobes. And women, while having their seperate role like in any other society at the time, they could become quite powerful in viking society. Hägar the Horrible's wife is a historically accurate true viking woman.
Edit: Don't know about Xerox but never trust a politically active Swede. They tend to be highly arrogant no matter which side they are on though perhaps not arrogant when compared to non-swedes.
Lastly, I will be counting on your promise to join Sweden as we will need Lithuania to have easier access to our new territory of Ukraine. And of course you will be treated as equals. Swedes are aware of their status as the aryan master race but they do not brag about it.
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Nice plan GunFred
I sometimes cheer for Sweden in soccer or ice hockey, because they are cool in blue and yellow
Thanks bro! Good to hear that at least one of us cheers for Sweden in soccer and ice hockey...
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kipshasz
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posted April 12, 2014 11:44 PM |
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well, vikings weren't very tolerant to christian monks and their monasteries, priests and their churches. but they were filled with phat lewt, so it's their own fault.
Back to the matter at hand I bet there will definetely be more violence and more regions will want to separate.
no amnesties or such will help this at all. some are paid or to thick skulled to reasoned with that junta.
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