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Geny 
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posted August 23, 2014 08:34 PM |
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@Alkar
How accurately can Feather throw into the crowd? Would it be a good idea to have Vorbrin shield her from incoming orbs and obstructing her shots?
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posted August 23, 2014 08:45 PM |
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Well, she doesn't have precise shot yet. I am actually thinking of swapping that one into her 9th level feat slot. Or I might swap it for something she already has next level. Didn't know I could do that until today. Thought the bonus feats were like the were in DnD 3.5, so I didn't bother reading the whole segment until today. Anyway, she would get a -4 for throwing into melee right now.
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Geny
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posted August 25, 2014 08:59 PM |
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Edited by Geny at 21:00, 25 Aug 2014.
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So what about that weaknesses and abilities check I made earlier?
I still don't know what it's supposed to give me. Their stats? Type of damage?
Edit: Also, someone should clear the map after Nathaniel's turn. *looks at gnomes*
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posted August 25, 2014 09:01 PM |
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weaknesses, behaviours up to their full stat sheets, depending on the success of your roll.
EDIT: the default DC for like knowing name and general behaviour is 15 or so, I think, so don't count on learning too much, unless I'm sorely mistaken.
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posted August 25, 2014 09:44 PM |
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Too tired to post now anyway. Will do tomorrow.
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posted August 25, 2014 11:57 PM |
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@Geny: Don't you have to have at least one rank in a Knowledge skill in order to make any check with a DC higher than 10? You might not be eligible to make the check. Gnomes?
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posted August 26, 2014 01:10 AM |
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The map is now fixed (and Nathaniel is in the right place to have made both attacks), and as for knowledge checks... Kareeah is right. You do need to have at least 1 skill point in the skill to get really complex stuff.
As for how I am running the knowledge DC's, here goes:
DC 10 is for things like a common race's name and typical habits. For example, a red dragon is easy to identify as a red dragon, and it's widely known that they like gold and eating people.
DC 15 is for more rare cases, like outsiders, rare undead and abberations. This check will get you the same thing as a DC 10, but for much less typical critters. For Outsiders and Undead specifically, as they have more powerful and rarer versions within each subset, the rating will become more difficult as they become rarer, up to a base of 25.
Increasing the DC by 5 will give you hallmark abilities of the creature (breath weapons, fear auras, spell casting, etc), more specific personality traits and a general power level. Increasing the DC by a further 5 will get you weaknesses, non-typical powers and pretty much anything else you want except for specific deeds/ names. DC 25 will get you the names/ deeds of specific common races and peoples, while DC 30 will do the same for less common/ renowned races and peoples.
For one-of-a-kind creatures, like Den, I will either just give you the name, powers and deeds, or if there is no reasonable way you would know who/ what they are, I will simply tell you that you know nothing.
So for the Aeons right now, you would need to hit a DC 25 to get weaknesses, or a DC 20 to get general powers. I believe that Kareeah hit that second one, and I gave a little hint as to what the mini Aeons could do...?
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Geny
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posted August 26, 2014 09:26 PM |
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Edited by Geny at 21:30, 26 Aug 2014.
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Ahah... so Improved Monster Lore was not as good as I thought if I can only properly use it on trained Knowledge checks... Should probably swap it next level.
As for the round: movement as per map, judgement of resistance against electricity (6 DR), Lend Judgement spell on Ciaran.
The full plan as told by me to Alkar in roll20 is as follows:
Alright, here's what I suggest:
I use my turn to use DR on myself and Ciaran and move under Den to fortify the right flank.
You move to where I'm standing and shoot orbs 1 and 5, both under 30 ft.
Ciaran takes care of orb 2 and Den disintegrates orb 3
Orb 4 and the big guy will attack us on next turn and then we'll see what happens.
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posted August 27, 2014 12:19 AM |
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Well, got #1. Got fairly close to finishing #5, but my lesser attack bonus attacks failed. And I wasn't lucky enough to roll the 8.
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posted August 27, 2014 06:39 AM |
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You are murdering baby outsiders. You monsters. 
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posted August 27, 2014 06:41 AM |
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They almost roasted Ciaran crispy black.
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posted August 27, 2014 06:47 AM |
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They did less than half your health, you big baby.
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posted August 27, 2014 06:52 AM |
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*shakes fist angrily*
almost half my health on turn 1!!!!!!1111!!!111!!!
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posted August 27, 2014 02:23 PM |
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Gnomes2169 said:
I thought you attacked the ones closest to you?
I'ma go with that, since you would not have hit the one Den shot at with the range penalty that would have been applied to that. XD
From the point I moved to, the one that Den killed that was furthest from him, was 30' from Feather. At least according to the measure tool. That is the range increment of the chakram. And that is the one I was having her attack.
Edit: Sure, they all die still, but just saying Ciaran soloed that one.
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posted August 27, 2014 03:30 PM |
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The measuring tool does not account for the wonky way diagonals work in 3.5/ Pathfinder... it was actually closer to 50' from you than it was 30'. >_>
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posted August 27, 2014 04:26 PM |
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Alright, 7.5' per diagonal; 45'. So I got a 21 on the roll instead of the 23. And the other chakram and dart missed even more.
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posted August 27, 2014 05:26 PM |
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I've been wondering, what does Den's attack look like? I mean, how far his breath reaches and is it a straight line or a cone. That sort of stuff.
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posted August 27, 2014 06:17 PM |
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It is a 60' line. I asked if it was a line or cone last night, and eventually got that answer, after misreading something.
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posted August 28, 2014 01:19 AM |
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Is the map up to date? I'm thinking I've got the move range to hit either of the Paracletus, but it might be wise to stick close to the rest of you and perform my function as meat shield, so maybe I should get the closer of the two.
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posted August 28, 2014 01:53 AM |
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It's up to date, and you can reach either. Might be best to go after the one by Ciaran, and stick with the group. Or heal Ciaran. Can't recall if using that ability is something that would cause an attack of opportunity or not though.
Edit: Checked, and doesn't.
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