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DagothGares
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posted June 17, 2014 05:40 AM |
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Like, how much trollbait do we need before it breaches CoC?
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JeremiahEmo
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posted June 17, 2014 05:47 AM |
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DagothGares said:
Like, how much trollbait do we need before it breaches CoC?
oh I'm not trolling but I guess I'm used to this. Everytime someone is anti-feminist, he's automatically a troll. It's like people who criticize feminism doesn't exist at all.
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DagothGares
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posted June 17, 2014 06:13 AM |
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Excuse me, how much discussion about gender equality do we need before it's no longer heroes 5 related?
EDIT: Frankly you just seem mad at feminists rather than trying to discuss a valid point about heroes 5. Also, I consider your arguments so poorly constructed and thought-out, I consider you an Andy Kauffmanesque presentation of a male gamer.
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fred79
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posted June 17, 2014 06:43 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 06:56, 17 Jun 2014.
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JeremiahEmo said:
actually, feminists and feminazis are one group. Saying it's separate is like saying Christian radicals are different from Christians. It's just that enough feminazis destroy feminists' image.
It's the feminazis that make anti-male laws, anti-male propagandas in the media, etc and the sane side of feminism do nothing to stop them.
why damn a whole group, when you only have some bad apples? that's like saying because some black/white/polka-dot people suck, all black/white/polka-dot people suck. and that's asinine. 
the sane side of every group does nothing to stop the bad apples, because they can't. laws protect the lazy, the corrupt, the pricks, the stupid, and the weak, so that those same dumbbells can **** things up for everyone. isn't that NEAT? 
(protip: this thread will get deleted, so i started an appropriate thread HERE)
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted June 17, 2014 09:22 AM |
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Lol, we had a "discussion" like this when I joined, though things were more heated.
I guess some people prefer the battlefield to be a massive sausage fest with paladins wearing big brawny suits of armour. *insert DS' WoW paladin picture*
But the OP does touch on a fair point, but his motivation and reasoning seem less than admirable. When I played H6 I found that the amount of women was quite high, but most seemed rather uninteresting and put there just for the sake of it, like for the longest time I thought that spring spirits and snow maidens were the same creature (upgrade). Same with sisters and radiant glories. Unarmoured, and armed, it really bugged me. I mean sure that there's the all sexy fate spinners, and lamasu, but 'human' (looking) females are overwhelmingly retaining their 'female' qualities of purity and whatnot. I'd have preferred more varied and interesting roles more centered on direct combat, rather than support roles, makes me feel like that some of the female creatures have been placed just for the sake of having more female creatures, and in my mind that's more sexist than not having them. (the portrayal)
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Ebonheart
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posted June 17, 2014 09:53 AM |
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Moved this post to the other thread.
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verriker
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posted June 17, 2014 10:43 AM |
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JeremiahEmo said:
And I don't really care if a game is male dominated or female dominated. I just ignore a game if it's female-dominated then play games that are male-dominated. Problem is, feminists has f.ucked up the gaming society so much that there's no male-dominated RTS-RPG fantasy game. Ever heard of Anita Sarkeesian (aka Feminist Frequency)?
If you can point to me a fairly recent, male-dominated game, one that is on par with Heroes 5 graphics, one that has many races, and I mean many, like Age of Wonders and Heroes and no sci-fi, it has to be traditional fantasy, and is rpg-esque rts like Heroes, then I would gladly leave the feminist-infected Heroes for good and be a fan of that game.
maybe the joke's on me, but I'll give you benefit of the doubt and assume you're actually serious and not the same GameFAQs troll from before lol
well look buddy, whatever you got against equal rights, I don't know, but seriously, if gender imbalance is the only supposed improvement you desire from Heroes given the horrible state it's in now, I seriously don't know what to say to you, it's such a bizarre non issue
this whole thing is like counting up all your friends, dividing them by gender and getting really really stressed out when you realize there's more women in the pile than men, I mean who has the time or the will to even start thinking about pointless crap like that lol
and frankly, much as I dislike social justice warriors, I believe every human is entitled to fair and equal treatment regardless of their inherent qualities, man, woman, skin color, hair color, whatever it doesn't matter. I'm sorry and I do say thanks for elaborating your thoughts, but I really have to mock your attitude with the same spirit of prejudice it itself implies, because I think discrimination is one of the most disgusting, sinister, counter-productive practices in the world.
anyway, women play this videogame just as men do, so there will be women and men in it much like the planet you live on, deal with it
or keep looking for that game with only manly men in it that caters to you, it's gotta be out there somewhere but it's not here
that's probably all I have to say on this lol
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Adrius
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posted June 17, 2014 10:45 AM |
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Steyn
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posted June 17, 2014 11:29 AM |
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Edited by Steyn at 11:30, 17 Jun 2014.
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JeremiahEmo said:
oh I'm not trolling but I guess I'm used to this. Everytime someone is anti-feminist, he's automatically a troll. It's like people who criticize feminism doesn't exist at all.
I think it has more to do with posting the same stuff in three different threads and opening an additional two on the subject, than with your opinion being anti-feminist.
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JeremiahEmo
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posted June 17, 2014 12:11 PM |
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verriker said:
JeremiahEmo said:
And I don't really care if a game is male dominated or female dominated. I just ignore a game if it's female-dominated then play games that are male-dominated. Problem is, feminists has f.ucked up the gaming society so much that there's no male-dominated RTS-RPG fantasy game. Ever heard of Anita Sarkeesian (aka Feminist Frequency)?
If you can point to me a fairly recent, male-dominated game, one that is on par with Heroes 5 graphics, one that has many races, and I mean many, like Age of Wonders and Heroes and no sci-fi, it has to be traditional fantasy, and is rpg-esque rts like Heroes, then I would gladly leave the feminist-infected Heroes for good and be a fan of that game.
maybe the joke's on me, but I'll give you benefit of the doubt and assume you're actually serious and not the same GameFAQs troll from before lol
well look buddy, whatever you got against equal rights, I don't know, but seriously, if gender imbalance is the only supposed improvement you desire from Heroes given the horrible state it's in now, I seriously don't know what to say to you, it's such a bizarre non issue
this whole thing is like counting up all your friends, dividing them by gender and getting really really stressed out when you realize there's more women in the pile than men, I mean who has the time or the will to even start thinking about pointless crap like that lol
and frankly, much as I dislike social justice warriors, I believe every human is entitled to fair and equal treatment regardless of their inherent qualities, man, woman, skin color, hair color, whatever it doesn't matter. I'm sorry and I do say thanks for elaborating your thoughts, but I really have to mock your attitude with the same spirit of prejudice it itself implies, because I think discrimination is one of the most disgusting, sinister, counter-productive practices in the world.
anyway, women play this videogame just as men do, so there will be women and men in it much like the planet you live on, deal with it
or keep looking for that game with only manly men in it that caters to you, it's gotta be out there somewhere but it's not here
that's probably all I have to say on this lol
you're not listening. Feminism is NEVER equal rights. It's more of a female supremacy thing. And equal representation is not equal rights.
Also, I have no problems with women actually. It's just that Tribes of the East final battle ignored many male characters: (some of which are my favorites) Findan, Gotai, Arantir and Duncan to give way to the women. I can understand Duncan but the other 3? Freyda is like the least interesting character in Heroes 5. And Kujin, why is she there and Gotai isn't? The Orc campaign's main character is supposed to be Gotai, not her. Then Findan, he and all the wood elves got the shaft because that race is male-dominated.
At least they didn't make Zehir Zehira. But what are the odds? I'm not in the final mission yet, maybe a twist occurs and Zehir suddenly grow boobs.
The women in Heroes 5 except Isabel and Biara are also the most boring characters ever. They're just men with boobs. Now if they showed a more human side to them, I would have liked them better.
And rest assured, I'm not the guy from GameFaqs. I'm a different person. This is my first and only account in a Heroes forum.
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Adrius
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posted June 17, 2014 12:21 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 12:23, 17 Jun 2014.
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I keep mixing up you and Ebonheart, no avatars is confusing.
Anyway, you're hilarious. It's like I don't even know what to argue about cuz your whole "problem" reads like a comedy scetch. Think we'll do best by just appreciating the comedic value of it and let you be on your way.
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verriker
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posted June 17, 2014 12:38 PM |
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JeremiahEmo said:
you're not listening. Feminism is NEVER equal rights. It's more of a female supremacy thing
objectively incorrect
lol
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OhforfSake
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posted June 17, 2014 12:43 PM |
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Adrius said:
I keep mixing up you and Ebonheart, no avatars is confusing.
Ebonheart is much much worse.. he's Swedish!
JeremiahEmo said:
actually, feminists and feminazis are one group. Saying it's separate is like saying Christian radicals are different from Christians.
A group of people is used to identify them some way. When it comes to labels such as feminism, religion, etc. it's about beliefs. Since the beliefs obviously differs between the people you group in the same category, they're not of the same group.
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Storm-Giant
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posted June 17, 2014 02:48 PM |
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This thread should be closed
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Ebonheart
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posted June 17, 2014 02:55 PM |
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Adrius said:
I keep mixing up you and Ebonheart, no avatars is confusing.
I need to make a few more posts I think before I can request a custom made avatar, pondering which one to use though since it is a one time choice. I must say George Hautecourt from AC looks interesting.
"Ebonheart is much much worse.. he's Swedish!"
The scorpion understands it, why can't you others?
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OhforfSake
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posted June 17, 2014 03:00 PM |
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Anyway, when you go for your personal avatar, a good idea is to go for something which has the same image size as what your avatar eventually will end up with, otherwise you might get something which doesn't look as cool as it did under its original size.
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Ebonheart
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posted June 17, 2014 03:44 PM |
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OhforfSake said:
Anyway, when you go for your personal avatar, a good idea is to go for something which has the same image size as what your avatar eventually will end up with, otherwise you might get something which doesn't look as cool as it did under its original size.
I was thinking of using https://www.google.se/search?q=george+hautecourt+aristocats&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9kWgU4zbBcK7ygO6qoFI&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=611#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=3_X97nhHOcJinM%253A%3BWMeetgB30JwXmM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimages2.fanpop.com%252Fimages%252Fquiz%252F120000%252F120503_1231557206236_300_242.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.fanpop.com%252Fclubs%252Fthe-aristocats%252Fquiz%252Fshow%252F120503%252Fwhat-name-madame-adelaides-lawyer-friend%3B300%3B242
But perhaps I need to fix the size?
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OhforfSake
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posted June 17, 2014 04:10 PM |
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This one?
Edit: I'm sure lizardwarrior can do a much better job, but here's an example of a resized version: 
In my resize I'll say a lot of the features are lacking.
Edit#2: Here's another try:
I guess it's really a matter of what features you find important. If you want the face, then maybe cut some of the body away, if you want the briefcase, then maybe cut the face, etc.
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Ebonheart
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posted June 17, 2014 04:24 PM |
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The 2nd edited one was flawless, that would be perfect.
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OhforfSake
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posted June 17, 2014 07:26 PM |
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Did you notice this thread? 
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