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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 17, 2016 12:09 PM
fred79 said:as for the video i mentioned, it comes across as too synthetic. it's obviously staged, and i have no idea why. but just because i don't know why, doesn't automatically deny the staged nature of the video. you don't have to be a professional to see what i'm talking about with that.
The video seems authentic to me, too. Basically, you only have "an impression" to doubt the authenticity, you talk about her hair model and stuff but it's natural to assume she has her hair done quite frequently. So, compare the possibilities:
1- Your impression is a mistake, it was just a hunch to begin with and those turn out wrong quite often.
2- They faked a video for no apperant reason imaginable to hurt their own campaign (it cant be anyone else faking it since it's obviously her people in the video and they didnt deny the authenticity) and did that with such sloppiness, you can immediately tell but somehow no one else sees that same sloppiness.
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I am going to put this other perspective of her greensburg NC 9/15/16 speech
>>>THIS<<< is deception.
It is beyond me why this is not wildfire on the web already,
I am at a loss for words from how clear this is one of the full versions of the original video
Not just the camera phones, but the shadows, the part where she waves at the wall behind her.........
ths cant be real, this is a hoax on conspiracy theorists right? This video was made a troll or something? this cant be real.......
im chattering disinfo right? Im seriously asking for help right now. How can this be real? It cant... Right?
artu said:2- They faked a video for no apperant reason imaginable to hurt their own campaign (it cant be anyone else faking it since it's obviously her people in the video and they didnt deny the authenticity) and did that with such sloppiness, you can immediately tell but somehow no one else sees that same sloppiness.
If I may add to this.
Such a video could only give credence to the claims done precedently about the bad state of health of Hillary, claims that were sparked by events such as coughing fits, stools etc.
Not only that, this episode happened during one of the most important ceremonies for modern day America, a moment where there would be a huge amount of coverage, and where the absence of an important politician would be noted, spin it how you want, but this gives way to speculations, could a president faint during such a ceremony?
And then what would happen after that, of course Trump would take advantage, and he did, he presented his own medical record, he's fat, sure, but he doesn't seem to have particular problems.
On the other hand the DNC officially stated Hillary has had pneumonia (and honestly, some outlets were claiming she was poisoned by Russians, where are we, in a Bond novel?), and she was on video when she had an epileptic episode (arguably I've found only one video that would be definite on this), so, adding to speculations AND an official confirmation of an illness, be it less debilitating than the speculated ills, a faint during a ceremony...
It wouldn't make sense to risk that much. If her voters start concerning about her health and start to think she cannot be president in such a state, she may lose a lot of votes.
Unless it was for some strange conspiracy in which they want to replace Hillary of course, but I don't really think that makes anymore sense than the premise of a fake video.
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Celfious, while I find the HIllary body double a bit absurd, it's already been proven that the media photoshop-ed a few pictures of Hillary at rallies and doubled the number of attendees to make her look more popular, to project an image of strength.
That is what I tried saying, but for conspiracy theories saying, "I am sure there are reasons", is usually enough to wave away such evidence.
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Good grief...GREED continues to thrive. "The Internet" just another place where a lot of people continue to make the big bucks for not doing real work.(I should clarify...I'm speaking about all the leeches at the top that are "oh so necessary.
Hearing On Obama Relinquishing Control Of The Internet Domain Name System Hearing
I could not be more sick of Global-Corporations, that clearly have no allegiance to anything but their profit margins.
Here we have another in a very long list of <ahem> "important changes" that end up needing to be filtered by...who profits? It sure as hell will not be the ground-level internet users. However, I should add, that if they dangle sparkly things on the screen - far too many will say..."ohhhh, that's cool."
Presently, Americans have to go to the Internet to voice free Truth. Although some Corporations already today limit free-speech based on the company's politics it is not country-wide. These guys representing this unneeded change, want to take things outside the U.S. and make the U.S. only a member of a multi-national committee, with only a "say" in the matter. The "sellers" of this very unnecessary move explained it was about how the U.S. is perceived in the world. What tripe.
Zeno, this country has been dismantled, for the most part, within my lifetime. This is just another ploy to give controls to outside vested interests. The Multi-national Corporations are behind this crap too, (several are mentioned) just like GATT, NAFTA, TPP and about anything else I'd care to name that has been changed in recent decades.
I say leave it the hell alone. The Internet in the U.S. works fine as it is and the only reason they want to jack with it is money and control. You know the drill...follow the money.
World war 2 is like the last just war I know of that we took part of. We fought against genocide. We fought against the oppression of a race. We fought against practically what the government is now causing.
I'm pretty much done. We can't match them in arms otherwise I would volenteer for some missions against Monsanto or something.
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Celfious said:World war 2 is like the last just war I know of that we took part of. We fought against genocide. We fought against the oppression of a race.
I don't think you actually knew that at the time, AFAIK concentration camps and mass extinctions were something the world first truly realized after the war, and even then it was a hot subject that wasn't generally accepted before some time later. There were some who had entered Germany and found out and tried to share this information with the world, but I've never had the impression it made countries participate in the war.
If I'm not mistaken USA went into WWII because they were attacked by Japan at Pearl Harbor. I btw. didn't know Hawaii wasn't part of the US before late 50's / early 60's.
markkur said:As far as I know it is a U.S. issue Zeno.
Presently, Americans have to go to the Internet to voice free Truth. Although some Corporations already today limit free-speech based on the company's politics it is not country-wide. These guys representing this unneeded change, want to take things outside the U.S. and make the U.S. only a member of a multi-national committee, with only a "say" in the matter. The "sellers" of this very unnecessary move explained it was about how the U.S. is perceived in the world. What tripe.
Zeno, this country has been dismantled, for the most part, within my lifetime. This is just another ploy to give controls to outside vested interests. The Multi-national Corporations are behind this crap too, (several are mentioned) just like GATT, NAFTA, TPP and about anything else I'd care to name that has been changed in recent decades.
I say leave it the hell alone. The Internet in the U.S. works fine as it is and the only reason they want to jack with it is money and control. You know the drill...follow the money.
The US already tried to screw around with internet privacy with SOPA and PIPA so what makes US hands any better?
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The Internet regulations are enforced by nation states, who maintains the registry of the domain names has nothing to do with it. Everyone can register a domain or a Domain Name Server which holds the record for that domain (and possibly other records), in any part of the world, at any time. Even you, on your home PC. DNS is just a system which translates human-readable names into IP addresses (the vast majority of the communication over Internet is done via IP addresses, names are just of end user convenience, hence the DNS), what will the site answering to certain name contain and how it will be regulated is a completely different matter.
Just to be fair I want to indicate I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to world war 2 and our last just war... That's just my upbringing and community impression.
Domain records are hosted on the so-called Authoritative DNS servers which have nothing to do with the registrars (organizations authorized to register public domains) and can be created by virtually anyone. All sorts of abuse toward the domain name system can occur no matter who does the technical work or maintaining the registry. Besides, I don't see how moving that responsibility elsewhere makes the existing national or international regulations on the matter any less valid, privatizing something does not transfer it to the law-free land.
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