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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted August 13, 2015 09:53 AM |
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Maurice said:
Kimarous said:
I expect you to notice that NONE of the "not final" preview pieces match up with the final artwork PLUS the fact that they WEREN'T FINAL.
It's like someone says they're going to open up an icecream store and they display vanilla and strawberry icecream cones. Yet, when it opens, they only sell chocolate and banana flavor.
WHAT PART OF "NOT FINAL" DON'T PEOPLE GET?!?
It's not false advertisement when they EXPLICITLY TELL YOU IT WON'T BE LIKE THAT! 
*sigh*
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted August 13, 2015 09:53 AM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 09:55, 13 Aug 2015.
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Maurice said:
It's like someone says they're going to open up an icecream store and they display vanilla and strawberry icecream cones. Yet, when it opens, they only sell chocolate and banana flavor.
Except next to the display there is a "not indicative of the final menu" sign. What they did was unwise but it was not lying and everyone who believed that they would get something remotely similar to a picture from another game were simply not thinking.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted August 13, 2015 10:06 AM |
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If it's anything like H6, the 'not final' watermark should be present in the final version of the game as well 
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted August 13, 2015 10:34 AM |
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Avirosb said:
If it's anything like H6, the 'not final' watermark should be present in the final version of the game as well
Lol, the Cabir with under-construction should be on the Boxart.
I can't believe people actually defend ubisoft and Erwan... This monstrous recycle of bad art should stop!
Give us a product or just call it HOMM6.2, but don't create an entire new game with the same old models and same ugly graphics and same mistakes and less abilities, and if you do, give it for 5 dollars.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 13, 2015 10:55 AM |
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Medusa art was quite misleading as she was presented with completely different weopons. Say what you will about the BD, it ws a dudue with w swirds just as promised while the medusa got a staff instead of a bow.
Blade dancer turned out to be what we voted for while the medusa turned out to be something else.
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted August 13, 2015 11:01 AM |
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I can swallow difference between units presented during vote and final units but why some of the units look so different on the art and on 3D model (Dragons, Medusa and Tracker)?
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted August 13, 2015 11:06 AM |
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I am not sure I see any major differences.
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted August 13, 2015 11:20 AM |
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Look at the Tracker. On the art golden lines are thin an barely visible, especially on the cloak where they exist only on the edges. They are barely visible on the knee armor and on the hood. Daggers don't glow at all. And 3D model looks like its wearing freaking Liberace outfit.
Medusa has completely different proportions (thinner over all), different face and hair, and totally different and unnatural pose.
Dragons have different pose, narrow head and totally different, low resolution wings.
Also Medusa and Dragons wings are very poorly animated. In fact Medusa is worst animated creature in entire game IMHO.
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alexine
Known Hero
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posted August 13, 2015 11:26 AM |
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Well even if they ruined the dungeon (  ) there is still that awesome academy and stronghold which are another 2 my favourite factions so .. its not that bad  and if inferno come out in an expansion, i can forgive them this dungeon 
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted August 13, 2015 11:27 AM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 11:28, 13 Aug 2015.
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dark-whisperer said:
Look at the Tracker. On the art golden lines are thin an barely visible, especially on the cloak where they exist only on the edges. They are barely visible on the knee armor and on the hood. Daggers don't glow at all. And 3D model looks like its wearing freaking Liberace outfit.
Medusa has completely different proportions (thinner over all), different face and hair, and totally different and unnatural pose.
Dragons have different pose, narrow head and totally different, low resolution wings.
Also Medusa and Dragons wings are very poorly animated. In fact Medusa is worst animated creature in entire game IMHO.
I never thought the tracker's differences were major to be honest. The medusa on the other hand yes, but the that is what I would expect as to my knowledge the medusa is a coral priestess re-skin. Also to me everything on the dragon is low resolution.
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TD
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted August 13, 2015 11:46 AM |
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I do agree that Limbic did deceive fans when they showed some of the "concepts" during line-ups. If they were gonna recycle model like medusa for example they could've just shown the model from h6. The original concepts during line-ups were something quite different IMO with some of the units like pixie and medusa(ohh yeah, wasn't assasin they showed the h5 version also instead of the hated h6 one?). The only reason Limbic didn't show the "real" concepts(read: h6 versions) is that they knew they would get hated for that so they just tried to hide that and hope people wouldn't notice the recycles
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted August 13, 2015 12:01 PM |
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Hmmm... You are right TD. Instead of showing us "Not official artwork" they could show us exact model and say it will be recolored. That would be honest... but I guess it wasn't in their interest to do that.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 13, 2015 12:03 PM |
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Ubisoft? being Honest?
Is this where i link the Bender "you're serious-let me laugh harder" vid?
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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hermes
Famous Hero
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posted August 13, 2015 12:14 PM |
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Kimarous said:
Maurice said:
Kimarous said:
I expect you to notice that NONE of the "not final" preview pieces match up with the final artwork PLUS the fact that they WEREN'T FINAL.
It's like someone says they're going to open up an icecream store and they display vanilla and strawberry icecream cones. Yet, when it opens, they only sell chocolate and banana flavor.
WHAT PART OF "NOT FINAL" DON'T PEOPLE GET?!?
It's not false advertisement when they EXPLICITLY TELL YOU IT WON'T BE LIKE THAT!
*sigh*
Look, although I'm usually on the other side of the fence, today I have to agree that it is a deception in some form. And I will explain why.
Yes, Ubi did put work in progress on the Medusa art, but:
1. It was implied to be an indication as to what the creature will look like
2. It also implied that some work in underway on that particular creature
While the fact is - Medusa is pretty much exact copy paste from Heroes 6, with minor alteratons. Thus, they already had pearl priestess artwork and model and it would be more truthful to the fanbase to actually put PEARL PRIESTESS art with a little Cabir on the top, as the final model resembles it much more then it does the art they actually showed.
Obviously they were trying to mislead the fanbase a little there.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted August 13, 2015 12:14 PM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 12:17, 13 Aug 2015.
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Ubisoft has not been honest since the times when they were not honest.
hermes said:
to actually put PEARL PRIESTESS art with a little Cabir on the top, as the final model resembles it much more then it does the art they actually showed.
If they did that my eyes would still be hurting from the profane language the SC would use to express its displeasure.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 13, 2015 12:29 PM |
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Yes, it does seem they were trying to misled the fans. I mean, they put the H3 medusa queen as an example for the line-up. Being said, they were there to just give the general feeling how the unit may look like. I guess one could interpret that in different ways.
... or they were planning on this, but Ubi didn't want to give them more money for a new unit and had to recolor pearl priestess. Same may as well apply to other units.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted August 13, 2015 12:36 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 13:25, 13 Aug 2015.
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Kimarous said:
WHAT PART OF "NOT FINAL" DON'T PEOPLE GET?!?
It's not false advertisement when they EXPLICITLY TELL YOU IT WON'T BE LIKE THAT!
I suggest a bit of zen mode, Kimarous. Outbursts like these are bad for your bloodpressure.
Anyway, if they're saying "NOT FINAL", I read that as "we're working on it, but this is the direction we're headed with our design". I don't read it as "here's a picture for you to stave off any comments from our actual design flow, but whatever it's going to be, it won't be like the concept art.".
Especially with the case of the Medusa (bow instead of staff) it is painfully obvious that this was a deliberate move, rather than accidental. They never intended to use anything else but the Coral Priestess model due to resource limits, so why show us a concept art holding a bow? Either they did this deliberately as a marketing move, or they are really clueless about their own design flow, making that vote for the faction line up WAY too early in the whole process.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 13, 2015 12:42 PM |
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Yeah, the Medusa artwork was deceiving. Barring the color palette, I'm not happy with the end result.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 13, 2015 01:16 PM |
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I pity anyone that pre-ordered the game. Dungeon took a turn for the worse.
Hm, I recently heard that they claim they don't have money because H6 didn't sell so well. So who wasted the money on that one?
Otherwise the game could've been improved much.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 13, 2015 01:33 PM |
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So is the giant Malassa statue the Grail-building? Nothing would be sillier...
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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