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alexine
alexine


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posted August 12, 2015 09:50 PM
Edited by alexine at 21:52, 12 Aug 2015.

So we now have the same dragons in necropolis and dungeon and the same medusa in dungeon and sanctuary as I heard ?
Well the unit copying is really starting to piss me off as well. Just out of the principle, even if the models would look great, its a new game so im looking foward to new units
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Kimarous
Kimarous


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posted August 12, 2015 09:54 PM

verriker said:
Kimarous said:
Objectively untrue. Even ignoring the more boney aspects of the Bone Dragon, lowered wings vs raised wings and straight lunge vs leaning lunge.


maybe I'm blind but it looks like the exact same rig and animation to me, just from two different angles lol



It's not a matter of angle.

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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posted August 12, 2015 09:56 PM

But a matter of the dangle.

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alexine
alexine


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posted August 12, 2015 09:56 PM

Well they are almost the same except different color and some cosmetic details .. this is not fair
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dark-whisperer
dark-whisperer


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Darkness feels no mercy
posted August 12, 2015 09:56 PM

That's shadow dragon and I said black...

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verriker
verriker


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posted August 12, 2015 09:58 PM

Kimarous said:
It's not a matter of angle.


looking closely, true enough, still they are the same assets with very minor tweaks at best lol
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Kimarous
Kimarous


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posted August 12, 2015 10:00 PM

dark-whisperer said:
That's shadow dragon and I said black...

Still different. Early raised claw (left foot, not right) + overhead lunge.

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dark-whisperer
dark-whisperer


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Darkness feels no mercy
posted August 12, 2015 10:06 PM

I stand corrected. It isn't completely the same. But its soooooo similar.

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fred79
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posted August 12, 2015 10:08 PM

Kimarous said:



shots like this are one of the reasons i don't play any heroes games past 3. looks like a WoW clone, to me. looks like every other lame-ass 3d game with graphics not worth a second look. and if it doesn't look right, i'm not even going to bother with if it feels right.

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Stevie
Stevie


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posted August 12, 2015 10:08 PM

What a snowing disaster.
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Kimarous
Kimarous


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posted August 12, 2015 10:09 PM

verriker said:
looking closely, true enough, still they are the same assets with very minor tweaks at best lol

If we're being that nitpicky, I'll point out it's still more effort than the Ghost/Djinn hand nudge.

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Gryphs
Gryphs


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posted August 12, 2015 10:13 PM

The fact that we have to look this close for differences is sad.
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properkheldar
properkheldar


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posted August 12, 2015 10:25 PM

Frankly im more surprised about ppls reaction to the models then the models themself. From the haven release it become quite clear (to me at least) that H7 is a way to salvage as much material from H6 as possible to make a better game, for little expense. Something more expensive and new were probably never even an option, and probably wont be either. I guess this is the last heroes game they will make, in this form. I have a feeling they will use Ashan and the might and magic franchise for other things though.  

But seriosly, almost the whole of haven is reskins. Academy was probably almost done for inplementing in H6, perhaps even parts of sylvan as well. They just realized that H6 was doomed and transfered the assets to H7. H7 will probably sell fairy well, recive some additional content and then pass on into the void. The state of the SC website is probably also partly due to less hype (and way to much hate) in contrast to what was expected. So now its more like "Lets get this into stores and leave it be".


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dark-whisperer
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Darkness feels no mercy
posted August 12, 2015 10:26 PM

About dungeon (since its my favorite faction):
- Townscreen is the best we have in Heroes VII.
- Music is my second favorite after Academy.
- Units are mediocre with few exceptions (Medusa is one of the worst units in game, Shade and Tracker are too flamboyant for my taste). I don't mind butterfly wings on dragons but they don't look like concept art ones but more like smudged rag. I hope its just low texture quality on the blog.
- Racial ability is very good.
- Heroes look nice both on the battlefield and on the art.

All in all I shouldn't be disappointed and somehow I am. Can't shake the feeling that dungeon could do better.

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PandaTar
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posted August 12, 2015 10:37 PM

dark-whisperer said:
Can't shake the feeling that dungeon could do better.


Some people here are already dancing the conga for all the shaking off of feelings which cannot quite do it quite alone.
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Minastir
Minastir


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posted August 12, 2015 10:50 PM

dark-whisperer said:
About dungeon (since its my favorite faction):
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All in all I shouldn't be disappointed and somehow I am. Can't shake the feeling that dungeon could do better.

Because it could be better, a lot better! It's the same thing just like with vampire and lich, if they would create new medusa,black dragon, assassin from the scratch, they could design something a lot better than H6 visuals counterparts and those creature would be definitely better, just like the awesome new vampire and lich right now,

but I think it's the problem with Ubi not giving Limbic enough money so they have to cut corners everytime, because of new lich and vampire we know they could do something much better disassociating themselves from H6 visuals but they probably can't and because vast majority of creatures created from the scratch for this game is much better than just reused H6 models with slight changes

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Datapack
Datapack


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posted August 12, 2015 10:52 PM

Kimarous said:



We playing Runescape now?

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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


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posted August 12, 2015 10:58 PM

Datapack said:
Kimarous said:



We playing Runescape now?


If not for different angles, one may almost call this black/white mirror art.

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Raenus
Raenus


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Grouchy curmudgeon
posted August 12, 2015 11:06 PM

For everyone saying things along the lines of "This is what you deserve for choosing Dungeon over Inferno." or "HAHAHAHA I told you so", please note that we would have the exact same issue with Inferno. They would still be re-using models, we would just have red blobs as opposed to butterflies.

Also please note that what appears to be the most popular model, and from a subjective point by far my favorite unit in Dungeon, is the Troglodyte, a throwback that we so rudely "shoehorned" in.
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Storm-Giant
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posted August 12, 2015 11:15 PM

Everytime I see the dragons I wonder how those textures can be so awful. Just how
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