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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted February 24, 2018 10:30 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 10:41, 24 Feb 2018.
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Yo, recently I stumbled on a youtube clip called sth like "how is Heroes 7 after 2 years". It turns out it's still bad. Funny thing is I wanted to remember why I hated the game in the first place but a few seconds of watching its washed out butt-ugly graphics was enough to bring back all the demons... the overall consensus is that the game was severely underbudgeted/rushed.
I remember that I wasn't even kinda able to play this badly optimized game on my old PC so I was wondering if I should try it on my new rig.
NOT.
When it comes to what I play nowadays, I'm really hooked to TW: Warhammer I & II.
When it comes to "what lies in the future", I think one of the most recent "supa-hyped" news that I got is that Blizzard finally started tinkering with their Warcraft RTS franchise https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/23/17042578/warcraft-3-remastered-invitational-patch. Even if its only a remaster it's enough for me, as the game is probaly my all-time favourite RTS game.
After their merge with Paradox, I'm also wondering what secret strategy game project Triumph has in stores for us...
I'm also interested in a game called Northgard http://store.steampowered.com/app/466560/Northgard/ (which is finally getting out of its early access phase) and a digital version of a board game called Scythe (an RTS based on its lore called "Iron Harvest" is also in production).
But putting that aside, there's one thing that bothers me time and time again. My severe wanting of a TBS game to play. I have games like AoW III, Endless Legend (well that's 4X but still) or Heroes III HotA, but the problem is I'm kinda in a place atm that I don't want to go back to games I've played already. I would like to play something new, but with the Heroes formula in it, as I find it as the perfect formula for me. I guess I can only wait...
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted February 24, 2018 05:27 PM |
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blob2 said:
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But putting that aside, there's one thing that bothers me time and time again. My severe wanting of a TBS game to play. I have games like AoW III, Endless Legend (well that's 4X but still) or Heroes III HotA, but the problem is I'm kinda in a place atm that I don't want to go back to games I've played already. I would like to play something new, but with the Heroes formula in it, as I find it as the perfect formula for me. I guess I can only wait...
yeah...same feeling here...just tried recently to play H2,3 and 5...but just need smth new...heroes style/mechanics...guess i need to wait...
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 25, 2018 12:19 AM |
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Same here as well. For me, there is no turning back to Heroes 3 or 5. That is the past. The only thing left now is to look forward to something even better. That is the future.
Unfortunately, the present is still lacking.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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thGryphn
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted February 25, 2018 06:53 AM |
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Edited by thGryphn at 06:56, 25 Feb 2018.
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You guys should try MMH 5.5.
It's Heroes 5, but it's not
Edit: Not to say we don't need a freaking good Heroes 8. We all do...
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted February 25, 2018 01:36 PM |
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in fact i restarted H5 toh old map made by Jinxer "battlezone" with my bro....couldnt resist and its alot of fun!
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Hourglass
Supreme Hero
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posted February 25, 2018 01:44 PM |
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Stevie said: Same here as well. For me, there is no turning back to Heroes 3 or 5. That is the past. The only thing left now is to look forward to something even better. That is the future.
Unfortunately, the present is still lacking.
I wouldn't say the present is lacking at all. I would rather say that present will be the future aswell:
You see, the current rightholder of heroes games isn't ideal for to us fans. Ubisoft do not care to make great games, they just want to make money and for that purpose they got far better franchises than Heroes series. They released Homm5 which was a success, and 6 did well too money-wise. However, Homm7 was both bad for the series reputation and for the money, as the sales were a disaster.
Making games is expensive and thus it's too risky for them to release games that the avarage customer isn't willing to buy. Especially if you've in-house products that do well no matter how unfinished they leave the studio like some of the Assassin's creed games.
Just take a look at later Prince of Persia games: Didn't sold too well, and now it hasn't got a sequal in 8 years.
At very best, I think they will release a some sort of remastered version of Homm5, but even that I doubt it will happen in the next 5 years.
So, if people are willing to get any new heroes-like experience any time soon, I wouln't look at Ubisoft. It's far more likely that another publisher would release a game that reminds Heroes and would leave some of satisfied.
But for Heroes series, the past is also the present and the future. But I wouldn't be too worried, since Homm 3, 4 and 5 still have active modders that are willing to make these games even better.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 25, 2018 01:52 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 13:53, 25 Feb 2018.
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Hourglass said: Ubisoft do not care to make great games, they just want to make money
Great games give money.
Worst part is they are still sitting on a gold mine with this franchise (imo), but they don't see why and how.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 25, 2018 06:07 PM |
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 25, 2018 09:48 PM |
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No amount of quality is enough to jump-start this trainwreck I'm afraid.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted February 25, 2018 11:05 PM |
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 25, 2018 11:13 PM |
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Not new. But tbh I had completely forgotten H7 druids were female till you brought it up.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 26, 2018 12:32 AM |
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Elvin said: No amount of quality is enough to jump-start this trainwreck I'm afraid.
Nah, quality remains quality. Not to be expected from Ubisoft -as they don't even believe it themselves, but if it's there we will embrace it you trust me.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 26, 2018 07:45 AM |
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We will. But it takes more than that to sell enough copies. Many heroes fans have left, probably never to return.
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted February 28, 2018 02:20 PM |
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Many heroes fans have left, me included, still lurk around sometimes, but only because I like this forum. Heroes 8 is just as likely as for duel of champions to be jumpstarted back to life.
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted February 28, 2018 03:46 PM |
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watcher83 said: Many heroes fans have left, me included, still lurk around sometimes, but only because I like this forum. Heroes 8 is just as likely as for duel of champions to be jumpstarted back to life.
I strongly disagree, it will happen for sure. The question is only when: It can take many years before Ubisoft tries again.
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted February 28, 2018 06:02 PM |
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Yeah, and by then, most of the old gamers will be too gaga to even remember they ever played the game.
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"Okay. Look. We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster."
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted February 28, 2018 07:04 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 18:13, 16 Mar 2018.
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Antalyan said: I strongly disagree, it will happen for sure. The question is only when: It can take many years before Ubisoft tries again.
I would rather they didn't. Maybe someone decides to make a Kickstarter project? Maybe the old Heroes team even? By making a few evasive manuvers here and there they would create a similiar game but with different names Like Eruthia and Nihon Ubi would probably sue, but they can always play dumb
EDIT: Ubisofts idea for the franchise after a few years of silence https://mightandmagic.ubi.com/pre-registration-now-open/.
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hahakocka
Known Hero
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posted March 19, 2018 01:55 PM |
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I hope at this year's E3 or Gamescom they will announce Heroes 8!! Its time for it! Also there were some rumors and jobs about an AAA Strategy and AI management application for jobs at Ubisoft in Germany!
Whatever game BlueByte is doing with cooperation with Ubisoft Berlin, they are searching for 3D artist:
Work with your lead, other art teams and Art Director to create high quality AAA 3D art assets
Deliver on visual and technical requirements
Setup destruction, dynamic objects and other functionality of art assets
Create high quality textures & masks
Review outsourced art assets
Optimize art assets to fit specific technical requirements
Help other teams to reach their goals by providing them with asset expertise
http://www.might-and-magic.ru/blog/1/entry-174-might-magic-heroes-8-zhdat-ili-ne-zhdat/
http://www.heroesworld.ru/forum/showthread.php?p=1082517#post1082517
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/57201/ubisoft-developing-new-aaa-pc-strategy-game/index.html
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted March 19, 2018 02:25 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 15:43, 19 Mar 2018.
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Heroes 7 wasn't an AAA title; after the Heroes 7 fiasco, what makes you think that any future titles will be developed as an AAA one?
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted March 19, 2018 02:59 PM |
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Although I don't think we will see H8 anytime soon (tbh, I'm not sure that I want to), publishers today slap AAA to various kind of garbage.
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