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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted February 11, 2015 07:00 PM |
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Stevie said:
I personally believe it's Raelag's doing. It provides a better connection between the reported Dark Elves and the motive of killing Brendan. I suspect Raelag's turning to demon worship happened at about this time also. I'm not sure tho, this is all speculation.
Wanna bet it has to do with yet another repressed crush on a human woman... in this case, the late Maeva Falcon? 
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted February 11, 2015 07:04 PM |
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Kimarous said:
Stevie said:
I personally believe it's Raelag's doing. It provides a better connection between the reported Dark Elves and the motive of killing Brendan. I suspect Raelag's turning to demon worship happened at about this time also. I'm not sure tho, this is all speculation.
Wanna bet it has to do with yet another repressed crush on a human woman... in this case, the late Maeva Falcon?
rofl
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted February 11, 2015 07:32 PM |
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Kimarous said:
Stevie said:
I personally believe it's Raelag's doing. It provides a better connection between the reported Dark Elves and the motive of killing Brendan. I suspect Raelag's turning to demon worship happened at about this time also. I'm not sure tho, this is all speculation.
Wanna bet it has to do with yet another repressed crush on a human woman... in this case, the late Maeva Falcon?
I guess that Raelag has some kind of fetish. Yrris, who seemed to be quite attractive and close to him didn't bring his attention at all and she was way cleverer than Isabel. I guess this the fault of the infamous mushrooms.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 11, 2015 07:33 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 19:39, 11 Feb 2015.
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War-overlord said:
I think Sandro just does this because he wants to ruin the Gods' plans.
Well, I don't exactly believe Sandro's style to be fulfilling prophecies and using demons to plot his personal vendetta. He's all about the Void.
Avonu said:
And so Malassa and the Faceless turned their magic against the Angels... And their betrayal saved the children of Chaos...
It was not all that they saved. The Faceless knew that if the Demons were destroyed and Chaos returned to the Void, the All and Everything, Asha's Creation, would implode upon itself. Order is nothing without Chaos.
As the Angels were about to eliminate the demons once and for all, the Faceless realized Ashan couldn't exist without the balance between Order and Chaos. They decided to betray the other dragons and attack the Angels, allowing the Demons to escape. This unfathomable betrayal is the cause of the Angels' hatred of the Faceless
There was a time where everything else existed and the demons didn't. Nothing imploded at that point. What do you make of that?
If "Order is nothing without Chaos" then that only means that Asha and Urgash should be alive for All and Everything to not implode. So unless you want to say that Sandro wants to tip the balance in favor of Chaos to go in Sheogh and kill Urgash (the plot twist, lol), or make the demons tear the Veil down for him to get to Asha (wouldn't he rather do that himself with Void magic?), then I don't really see how Sandro would benefit from it.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted February 11, 2015 07:45 PM |
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Stevie said:
There was a time where everything else existed and the demons didn't. Nothing imploded at that point. What do you make of that?
If "Order is nothing without Chaos" then that only means that Asha and Urgash should be alive for All and Everything to not implode. So unless you want to say that Sandro wants to tip the balance in favor of Chaos to go in Sheogh and kill Urgash (the plot twist, lol), or make the demons tear the Veil down for him to get to Asha (wouldn't he rather do that himself with Void magic?), then I don't really see how Sandro would benefit from it.
no one ever said ashan was thought through. just go with it
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted February 11, 2015 07:47 PM |
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not played h5 much, so i have some had time to understand all that is written.
i enjoyed the read, reasonable and interesting story so far.
poor bull duchy got rekt hard.
can any of you guys explain why brendan is the key? its just a man i mean, like every other human, he is just flesh and blood.... or not?
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted February 11, 2015 07:50 PM |
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cleglaw said:
not played h5 much, so i have some had time to understand all that is written.
i enjoyed the read, reasonable and interesting story so far.
poor bull duchy got rekt hard.
can any of you guys explain why brendan is the key? its just a man i mean, like every other human, he is just flesh and blood.... or not?
some prophecy dictated that as long as the falcon line exists (Brendan is falcon, the royal family) so shall the falcon empire. if he dies so shall the empire. SO he is important if said prophecy is true and since it's Ashan you can bet your sorry butt it is.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted February 11, 2015 07:50 PM |
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If there is no order, there can not be chaos, and if there is no chaos, then there is no order either, since one of them require the other to exist by default. This means if order wins, and destory chaos, then the order can not exist by itself, so it ceases to exist itself.
This means the way chaos can win, is simply let the order win and put everything in order. Then no chaos exists, and since it is so, there is no definition of order anymore.
BUT there's more. If this would happen and order dissapears, then what is left is pure chaos. Order becomes chaos and chaos becomes order. Even tho chaos was destroyed. Now that chaos exists again, so does order, since it's oposite. And both must exist always.
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted February 11, 2015 07:58 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
cleglaw said:
not played h5 much, so i have some had time to understand all that is written.
i enjoyed the read, reasonable and interesting story so far.
poor bull duchy got rekt hard.
can any of you guys explain why brendan is the key? its just a man i mean, like every other human, he is just flesh and blood.... or not?
some prophecy dictated that as long as the falcon line exists (Brendan is falcon, the royal family) so shall the falcon empire. if he dies so shall the empire. SO he is important if said prophecy is true and since it's Ashan you can bet your sorry butt it is.
yeah i know the prophecy, but still cant understand why that part is so important. with falcon line or not, why matters so much? i guess no one knows this then?
logically he should have some sort of special-holy or whatever thing, he should be more then a human... but there is no such thing mentioned.. right?
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted February 11, 2015 08:07 PM |
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cleglaw said:
yeah i know the prophecy, but still cant understand why that part is so important. with falcon line or not, why matters so much? i guess no one knows this then?
logically he should have some sort of special-holy or whatever thing, he should be more then a human... but there is no such thing mentioned.. right?
nope. he dies, the empire dies. that's it as far as i know. logic isn't Ashans strongest side
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted February 11, 2015 08:09 PM |
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cleglaw said:
can any of you guys explain why brendan is the key? its just a man i mean, like every other human, he is just flesh and blood.... or not?
no, he's secretly a robot android sent by the Ancients to bring balance to the force, that's why he's in the prophecy
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 11, 2015 08:13 PM |
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Cleglaw you can read the story about the prophecy in the Tales of the 10 Years War part 1. Here. Let me quote it:
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Where to begin? Maybe with the prophecy.
At the dawn of our era, what the scholars call the “Historical Age”, Ronan the Great, High King of the Falcon Clan, defeated his rivals and had them bend the knee before him. The Human clans were no more. An Empire was born.
It is said that on the day of Ronan’s crowning, the Seventh Dragon himself, Sar-Elam, appeared to the new Emperor and talked with a voice that was both ancient and timeless. “Emperor of the Falcon!” he said. “Your blood is the blood of Men. For as long as your blood endures, the children of Ylath shall prosper.”
…Well, he probably didn’t say these exact words, but all accounts at least agree to their meaning: as long as the Falcon dynasty existed, the children of Ylath – the Human race – would prosper.
But of course, Sar-Elam’s words also turned the Falcon line into targets. The Demons of Sheogh, in particular, made several attempts against the Falcon Emperors through history.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted February 11, 2015 08:15 PM |
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verriker said:
no, he's secretly a robot android sent by the Ancients to bring balance to the force, that's why he's in the prophecy
i wish 
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted February 12, 2015 10:20 AM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
If there is no order, there can not be chaos, and if there is no chaos, then there is no order either, since one of them require the other to exist by default. This means if order wins, and destory chaos, then the order can not exist by itself, so it ceases to exist itself.
This means the way chaos can win, is simply let the order win and put everything in order. Then no chaos exists, and since it is so, there is no definition of order anymore.
BUT there's more. If this would happen and order dissapears, then what is left is pure chaos. Order becomes chaos and chaos becomes order. Even tho chaos was destroyed. Now that chaos exists again, so does order, since it's oposite. And both must exist always.
I've bolded your contradiction for you . Fact is, as soon as Order disappears, Chaos disappears too, and we have nothing left to identify either one.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted February 12, 2015 11:11 AM |
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Indeed. It is contradictionary. After both of them dissapear, there is nothing to identify given state. But as soon someone identifies this state as chaos again (since it can't be order), then again we have both again  But if there is not one. There is nothing. And it is the Void...
And Sandro is there ... Watching... waiting ... Ready to emerge to this world and destroy both order and chaos ...
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Sorts
Known Hero
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posted February 12, 2015 11:25 AM |
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kiryu133 said:
cleglaw said:
yeah i know the prophecy, but still cant understand why that part is so important. with falcon line or not, why matters so much? i guess no one knows this then?
logically he should have some sort of special-holy or whatever thing, he should be more then a human... but there is no such thing mentioned.. right?
nope. he dies, the empire dies. that's it as far as i know. logic isn't Ashans strongest side
Prophecies are rarely direct and/or clear. For some reason they need the bloodline to continue (and considering Brendan's state, well... this is going to be unpleasant). Why? What did Sar-Elam see or actually say why is it necessary that the main line of Falcon survives? We don't know. All this is another story for another time.
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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted February 12, 2015 12:26 PM |
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Avirosb said:
I've got nothing except this
I had a good laugh out of this
Thank you ^^
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 12, 2015 12:29 PM |
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted February 12, 2015 12:31 PM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 12:32, 12 Feb 2015.
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Stevie said:
Marzhin, any info on when the next Tales part 8 will come out? This week, the next? Cuz I really wanna see if my Raelag prediction is actually accurate. 
Rather next week or later on cause we got only 4 parts left.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted February 12, 2015 12:37 PM |
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My tip is on akademi magic heroes today..
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
