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Valen-Teen
Valen-Teen


Famous Hero
UFOlolOgist
posted March 15, 2015 01:25 PM

In russian forums was said that amount of spells in HVII will be 56 so 2 spells per level of magic school

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Pawek_13
Pawek_13


Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
posted March 15, 2015 01:31 PM

Valen-Teen said:
In russian forums was said that amount of spells in HVII will be 56 so 2 spells per level of magic school

Or 3-2-2-1. I have counted for 10, but 8 is also a neat number, especially when taken into consideration that there are 7 magic schools.

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ThatRedSarah
ThatRedSarah


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posted March 15, 2015 01:34 PM
Edited by ThatRedSarah at 13:36, 15 Mar 2015.

Maurice said:

If there's one thing I dislike about flying, it's the take off. And the landing, too.

The only thing that's cool about flying is once the plane is at a stable altitude, cruising towards its destination and you can look at the landscape as it is rolling on somewhere deep below you. With some luck you have clear skies and can make some amazing pictures .


Well i agree on the awesome views and picture possibilities I might even enjoy the views more when its cloudy and you can see all the incredible cloud formations from above Add some sunset or sunrise and you are done!

Valen-Teen said:
In russian forums was said that amount of spells in HVII will be 56 so 2 spells per level of magic school


I hope they are all somewhat useful or at least balanced in the magic guild levels. Because i have the most terrible luck when receiving spells in the guilds... even if just from two possibilities, i can pretty much guarantee that i'll get the one that i dont want... :/

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Zombi_Wizzard
Zombi_Wizzard


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posted March 15, 2015 01:51 PM
Edited by Zombi_Wizzard at 13:51, 15 Mar 2015.

ThatRedSarah said:
Some times you just... dont land?

Exactley. You must make use of parachute in those cases. Needless to say, I myself don't count crushing into the ground at full speed as landing. Or into the building. Those times are some of my favourites.

The passengers don't have parachute tho ... but screw'em anyway right?

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ThatRedSarah
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posted March 15, 2015 02:01 PM

Zombi_Wizzard said:

The passengers don't have parachute tho ... but screw'em anyway right?


This is getting pretty dark, but oh well...

That movie just brings a smile to my face every time. Super funny

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Minion
Minion


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posted March 15, 2015 02:11 PM

56 spells seems reasonable, at release Heroes V had 40 Spells.

I am kinda hoping there are no Mass Haste/Mass Slow at all, I don't know how to balance those spells well. Or they should be level 4...
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Avonu
Avonu


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Embracing light and darkness
posted March 15, 2015 02:13 PM
Edited by Avonu at 14:16, 15 Mar 2015.

Minion said:
I am kinda hoping there are no Mass Haste/Mass Slow at all, I don't know how to balance those spells well. Or they should be level 4...

See HoMM2 to have an idea, how to balance them (yes, level 3 and 4).

Minion said:
56 spells seems reasonable, at release Heroes V had 40 Spells.

48 + 4 adventure spells + 10 runes + 6 war cries.

EDIT: Ahh, at release - indeed 40+4
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Storm-Giant
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posted March 15, 2015 02:25 PM

Avonu said:
Minion said:
I am kinda hoping there are no Mass Haste/Mass Slow at all, I don't know how to balance those spells well. Or they should be level 4...

See HoMM2 to have an idea, how to balance them (yes, level 3 and 4).

Heroes IV also had them on high levels. It's the most reasonable way to go, hopefully they haven't gone full Heroes 3
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Zombi_Wizzard
Zombi_Wizzard


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posted March 15, 2015 03:16 PM

Storm-Giant said:
Heroes IV also had them on high levels. It's the most reasonable way to go, hopefully they haven't gone full Heroes 3

One of the best things about H3 was powerfull spells. Mass Haste is't that great anyway, when you have Mass Berserk

Immagine if initiative and Haste would work like in H5, with Mass Berserk from H3, that would be some combo to pull off. Anyway, even if it's not that powerfull, I would very much like to see spells that combo well from one another. Heroes games don't have enough of this imo.

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kiryu133
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posted March 15, 2015 03:31 PM

Storm-Giant said:

Heroes IV also had them on high levels. It's the most reasonable way to go, hopefully they haven't gone full Heroes 3


i don't think i like the idea of them being separate spells. seems kinda sleazy...

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Storm-Giant
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posted March 15, 2015 04:42 PM
Edited by Storm-Giant at 16:43, 15 Mar 2015.

Having mass spells on levels 1-2 makes the game one-dimensional.

I fear 56 spells may prove to be not enough, but we'll have to wait until EA.
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kiryu133
kiryu133


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Highly illogical
posted March 15, 2015 04:50 PM

it's learning two spells that do the same. just doesn't make sense to me. i guess what h5 did as in having perks that adds a mass version of spells is an ok solution. having haste but then having to be lucky and getting the mass version in a magic guild kinda irks me the wrong way is all

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Minion
Minion


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posted March 15, 2015 04:54 PM

Storm-Giant said:

I fear 56 spells may prove to be not enough, but we'll have to wait until EA.


Maybe some 500 spells would do the trick?

No seriously speaking, I find around 60 spells to be a good number.
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alcibiades
alcibiades


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Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted March 15, 2015 04:59 PM

Minion said:
56 spells seems reasonable, at release Heroes V had 40 Spells.

Hmm well, but then H5 only had 4 magic schools, which meant 10 spells in each school or 2 per level, which was generally considered too few. And H7 will have 8 spells per school which also means 2 per school per level (on average), so I'm afraid I'll also feel this falls short.
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malax83
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posted March 15, 2015 05:02 PM

Minion said:
56 spells seems reasonable, at release Heroes V had 40 Spells.

I am kinda hoping there are no Mass Haste/Mass Slow at all, I don't know how to balance those spells well. Or they should be level 4...


HotA can t look your post, there s a filter called "we are making our own game"..

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Minion
Minion


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posted March 15, 2015 05:06 PM
Edited by Minion at 17:06, 15 Mar 2015.

alcibiades said:

Hmm well, but then H5 only had 4 magic schools, which meant 10 spells in each school or 2 per level, which was generally considered too few. And H7 will have 8 spells per school which also means 2 per school per level (on average), so I'm afraid I'll also feel this falls short.


I think that the increase from 4 spell schools to 7 will have an impact on the feeling too, you are less likely to always go Light for example.
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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted March 15, 2015 05:09 PM

Avonu said:



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Zombi_Wizzard
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posted March 15, 2015 05:12 PM
Edited by Zombi_Wizzard at 17:18, 15 Mar 2015.

Well too many spells would mean they become repeatable or to similar to one another. Also when spells you get are random, with fewer spells, it's easyer to get what you want.

Still with 7 magic schools, I was hoping for number to be somewhere between 70 and 84 spells ... or 10-12 per school. But oh well. 8 per school isn't that bad, imo and it realy depends what spells will be like. I would like to see some interasting ones.

Spells like:

- clone
- remove object!
- arcane crystal
- blade barrier
- berserk
- hypnotize / pupet master
- etc.

EDIT: Oh hey Galaad, how was your trip to Ubiland? Did you walk all the way? Being so close to their headquarters must mean you spend a lot of money on pest controll ... spiders invading your home everywhere and all ... it's quite a scary place. And also lot of Frenchmen *shrugs*

(it's a joke btw, I like France in reality ... no realy)

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Valen-Teen
Valen-Teen


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UFOlolOgist
posted March 15, 2015 05:14 PM

When we can get any new info from special day?

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Avonu
Avonu


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Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
posted March 15, 2015 05:15 PM
Edited by Avonu at 17:16, 15 Mar 2015.

Hey! Where did Galaad's signiature about ducks and Erwan go? Did he reveal too much?

Speaking of Erwan... I was always wonder how his name spells?
I have seen many times: Erwan le Breton, Erwan Le Breton, Erwan LeBreton and Erwan Lebreton - which one is correct?
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