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properkheldar
Famous Hero
Keeper of books
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posted June 08, 2015 10:56 AM |
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Im looking forward to sylvan reveal. Although i still "mourn" the loss of the pheonix lineup, i like the direction they seem to be heading with the faction. Visually im crossing my fingers for a more fairylike and magical style. Not just rugged wood elves  .
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"Man spends his life in reasoning on the past, in complaining of the present, in fearing future."
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Petiknight
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 08, 2015 11:04 AM |
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Hi All,
thx for the leak guys . I stopped play with the beta, because the graphic after time just hurt my eyes, and on the 4 players map, the AI's turn and everything was too slow for me. I lost my patience after crash, so I will wait for the game release, however I am not so impressed about this game.  Maybe I was too excited about this game, and my exceptations were too high...
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Minastir
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 08, 2015 11:07 AM |
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DierdreOfAmber said:
One thing I do hope remains, is the Treant being a shooter. It suddenly makes it useful compared to the dragon and it's 175%(even more if you're nature-lucking a creature) damage
Me too, Sylvan doesn't have flying champion (and only one flying creature in linu-up) so two slow walker champs would be repeating, treant shooter make sense if he attacks like in Clash of Heroes using roots attack:
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted June 08, 2015 11:09 AM |
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Minastir said:
Me too, Sylvan doesn't have flying champion (and only one flying creature in linu-up) so two slow walker champs would be repeating, treant shooter make sense if he attacks like in Clash of Heroes using roots attack:
Or if it spits with acorns. 
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted June 08, 2015 11:16 AM |
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Ubi-Nox on Blog:
Hello all, please keep in mind that data obtained with illegal means may contain incorrect information and should not be trusted as the moment as official final content. Indeed, on this particular version only Haven & Academy are supposed to be integrated and other line-ups may content still work in progress elements or incorrect details to be fixed. For instance, Black Dragons will not have a life drain ability. All certified information will be available here, please bear the wait with us.
Hierophant987
Is the development of the game going fine?? Sounds like you still have so many problems to solve in but 3 months!!
Ubi-Nox
There are several branches of versions during a development. The beta only is one and don't contain all latest elements (especially regarding factions not supposed to be integrated).
Ubi-Nox
That being said, we are impressed by what you were able to achieve here 
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted June 08, 2015 11:18 AM |
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Quote:
Hello all, please keep in mind that data obtained with illegal means
What was illegal? 
As for shooting treants, maybe they are throwing blade dancers on their enemies
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"Occam's shuriken: when the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas." -- Dr. Gordon Freeman (Freeman's Mind)
"lol" -- VERRIKER VON ERWINSSEN
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted June 08, 2015 11:23 AM |
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Pawek_13 said:
Or if it spits with acorns.
please, PLEASE make it spits acorns!
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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Findan
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 08, 2015 11:25 AM |
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frostymuaddib said:
Quote:
Hello all, please keep in mind that data obtained with illegal means
What was illegal?
As for shooting treants, maybe they are throwing blade dancers on their enemies
LOL Nuuuuuuu
They are throwing bananas because in fact new treants are palm trees and we will have desert elves!
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Minastir
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 08, 2015 11:38 AM |
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According to the list of Sylvan heroes appearing in HVII, Lasir will be one of them
so just like earlier I think LAsir will be Sylvan representative in Ivans council
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted June 08, 2015 11:53 AM |
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Findan said:
They are throwing bananas because in fact new treants are palm trees and we will have desert elves!
I approve 
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted June 08, 2015 01:28 PM |
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The fact that treant is a shooter poses some interesting alternative to the dragon. But, the role of the Treant so far has been that of a very good tank. Had it been an elite unit it would pose an interesting and good tank that could also act as living shelter for archer units (that Sylvan has only one strangely, oh and the druid...).
Now, should the treant become a shooter, i firmly believe something logical must also take place to explain it. For example, a rooting ability that will make the treant immobile but allow him to attack with roots on all the tiles in a row infront of him would be nice.
Alternatively, if the treant is a kind of tree that produces pines or other such strong bullet like products, it wouldn't be illogical to be able to shoot them.
Even more alternatively, the Treant could have on his branches elven shooters that would to the job.
Do i sound silly to you?
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted June 08, 2015 01:39 PM |
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articun said:
Alternatively, if the treant is a kind of tree that produces pines or other such strong bullet like products, it wouldn't be illogical to be able to shoot them.
Well, deducing from the artwork, Treants in Heroes VII have some kind of fruits growing on them, so these can resemble nuts and therefore be used as projectiles. However, I think that ranged attack like the one in CoH would look way better.
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted June 08, 2015 02:36 PM |
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If it turns out to be true that Namtarus, Watchers and Faceless are the Warfare units and will be reworked to be in the game, it's fine
That gives me hope that maybe in some expansion we may still see them as playable units in the lineups since they will be already present in the game and will need minor tweaks.
The same is of course true for Griffins and maybe Glories if they return as neutral light elementals.
And since we have the demon units reworked already, it means that an Inferno expansion is also possible.Though i would prefer to see either Dwarves or Sanctuary in the game again.
But i am still hopeful for a 4/4/3 lineup coming in an expansion with all the units we see related to factions.
And maybe we can get DLCs in the meantime with minor campaign plots and 1-2 new neutral units that will help the expansions... Who knows
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 08, 2015 03:10 PM |
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if they deliver a bug free quality game i'm sure people will pick up on it and the game will sell! and when it sells, ubisoft might decide to make expansions or DLCs that are worth buying(aka not pirates of the savages seas or the other one)
although i hate the logic behind DLCs i would welcome an alternate line up DLC for dungeon. anything for an actual ashan dungeon line up!!
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted June 08, 2015 03:15 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
if they deliver a bug free quality game i'm sure people will pick up on it and the game will sell! and when it sells, ubisoft might decide to make expansions or DLCs that are worth buying(aka not pirates of the savages seas or the other one)
although i hate the logic behind DLCs i would welcome an alternate line up DLC for dungeon. anything for an actual ashan dungeon line up!!
Unfortunately, i doubt we will see alternative lineups in DLCs... We might get 3-6 or 4-8 new maps in the form of two campaigns, maybe 1-2 new neutral creatures and 3-5 new artifacts. Maybe even some bug fixing and adventure map buildings.
I will support the idea of DLCs, if they contribute to expansions that can allow you to have 4/4/3 lineups and choose your 3/3/1 lineup. Having the units in the game slowly will make it easier in the end.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 08, 2015 03:20 PM |
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i know but a man can only dream... hahahah
if this game goes better than heroes 6 in sales, then i think it's safe to say we will at least have an expansion with a new faction maybe?
heroes 6 had 2 DLCs and a semi-expansion.
but imagine having the choice of different line ups while building like what happens with the champions right now. new debths!!
smth like the disciples III system.
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted June 08, 2015 03:24 PM |
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Well, don't tell me that, i am the Grand Supporter and Schemer of 4/4/3 and 5/5/3 lineups. All my entries in ICTC8 followed that scheme and honestly, seeing as to how you can choose between buildings in the town screen and how they made the choice for the champion, it doesn't feel all that impossible to make it so that you are able to choose between 4 or 5 core units, the same for elite units and there is already the choice for champion.
The Townscreens also have plenty of empty space for buildings to be added into, or even expand on present buildings.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 08, 2015 03:30 PM |
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lets see if the manage a normal launch for this game first,because if that happens the rest are extremely easy to do! a bug free launch is the hardest part here.
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted June 08, 2015 03:35 PM |
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Dear Chris, what game, or any product the last few years managed to be bug free? Even grand titles like Assassins Creed, The Witcher, Galaxy S6, HTC One M9 were released with bugs and issues...
Are we to judge a title like Heroes VII that has far fewer funds than those products with its launch bugs?
I am certain there will be bugs because they seem to be forced to publish the game on September. But i on my part can only help better the game. And i will.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 08, 2015 04:17 PM |
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Edited by ChrisD1 at 16:21, 08 Jun 2015.
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articun said:
Dear Chris, what game, or any product the last few years managed to be bug free? Even grand titles like Assassins Creed, The Witcher, Galaxy S6, HTC One M9 were released with bugs and issues...
Are we to judge a title like Heroes VII that has far fewer funds than those products with its launch bugs?
I am certain there will be bugs because they seem to be forced to publish the game on September. But i on my part can only help better the game. And i will.
yeap it's the new trend to launch unfinished games BUT all those titles/devices (excluding AS, which is an ubi title) didn't come out unfinished. it's another thing to have a few minor bugs and another to have a Heroes 6 title!!!no one's forcing ubi to launch on sept really.
and of course I'm going to judge a product before i give my hard earned money for that!! we are the future customers of course we are to judge every little thing!!!
and just because other companies are doing it doesn't mean ubi gets a pass for that.
if ubisoft limits the funds for this game it won't sell well due to another bugfest.
the sad thing is that there should be nothing we could do to help the game. it's the company's job to improve the game. we, as paying customers, should judge if the product it meets our standards and buy it or not.
ubisoft is not some poor little company that can't afford testers. i'm sure of that. they just want to make maximum profit with the minimum funds,yet they seem to completely forget the quality of their product!!
lets hope they will make it! we can even bet on it
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