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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted August 17, 2014 06:13 PM |
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Poll Question:
H7 Skillwheel Poll
As the subject matters and there is a lot of opinions, I suggest to centralize the discussion under this poll :
What sort of skillwheel system would you like to be implemented in H7 and why ?
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Hotarubi
Known Hero
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posted August 17, 2014 06:19 PM |
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Poll semantically suggests that only the first option will be "fixed and improved". Either remove it, or add it to the second option as well.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 17, 2014 06:21 PM |
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I understand 'Both systems implemented' option is the theorized "random skills + choosable perks" one?
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted August 17, 2014 06:26 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
I understand 'Both systems implemented' option is the theorized "random skills + choosable perks" one?
me too.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted August 17, 2014 06:26 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 18:31, 17 Aug 2014.
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@Hotarubi : Arf you are right I missed that !! I am sorry for this I cannot edit the poll as it has already been started, let's just [ignore the fixed&improved for better comprehension then !
@Storm-Giant&War-Overlord : Yep, or whatever theory you might have that could work 
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 17, 2014 06:31 PM |
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Then there goes my vote.
I think you should describe all three options in the OP to make it more clear
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VOKIALBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted August 17, 2014 06:34 PM |
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Classic random skillwheel.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted August 17, 2014 06:35 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 18:59, 17 Aug 2014.
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Storm-Giant said:
Then there goes my vote.
I think you should describe all three options in the OP to make it more clear
Sorry
I - Classic random skillwheel
II - Non-random skillwheel
III - Both system implemented, and how do you think it could work
You can then if you wish explain your choice, and express cons and ideas on how to improve it etc
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 17, 2014 06:42 PM |
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You can edit your own posts!
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted August 17, 2014 06:45 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 18:48, 17 Aug 2014.
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Yes but not the OP ! I get this message if I try : Sorry, but this poll has already been started. Future editing of this poll has been denied.
Guess I should have better suggested to some mod to open the thread..
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Rincewind
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 17, 2014 06:52 PM |
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I did not play HoMM 6 besides the Demo therefore I voted for the old random one. Although you sometimes only got the choice between two things you did not want I liked it in general.
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flonembourg
Known Hero
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posted August 17, 2014 07:00 PM |
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first choice for me if fixed and improved means no useless perks
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foxxxer
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted August 17, 2014 07:11 PM |
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Edited by foxxxer at 19:26, 17 Aug 2014.
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I voted for "Both systems implemented".
I hope that the developers will implement classical random Skillwheel where you can pick a new skill or advance old one in every level-up. In the same time you can receive 1 point per level-up similar to H6 system. Those points you can use for perks anytime you want. If we have 6 perks per skill and you can pick only 3 will be great. Also the perks could be graded - you can pick 1 out of 2 in the range 1-6 level, the next tier will be unlocked after level 6 and the last one will be unlocked after level 15. If such system is implemented I'd buy the game without a second thought.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 17, 2014 07:20 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 19:21, 17 Aug 2014.
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I'd go for random and reduce the randomness through pop up manipulation - Mainly because I doubt the team would implement both.
First, there would be an option between two new skills and two upgraded skills.
Second, an option between two basic abilities of the chosen skill and two advanced.
By limiting the abilities to the to the ones from the skill you just picked, you eliminate a big part of the randomness. Better yet, you have a wider array of choices than in H5. The only downside would be that you gain both a skill and an ability in a level up but it all would depend on how potent they are.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted August 17, 2014 08:27 PM |
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Classic random skillwheel for me because:
Random = better replayability.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted August 17, 2014 08:36 PM |
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I actually voted for free-pick..
Why? In my Eyes it was not the option to pick your skills that was the problem in H6, but the fact thet there were no valid alternative ways to focuse your hero.
If I had the H5 skillwheel whit free use, I still would have several interesting ways to chose my hero. In H6 I did not have many valid alternatives.
The Problem in my eyes is not in how we pick, but if there is more then one valid tree to chose from.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted August 17, 2014 08:52 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 20:55, 17 Aug 2014.
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Voted classic random of course, because that's just how you play the game ! 
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flonembourg
Known Hero
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posted August 17, 2014 08:58 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
I actually voted for free-pick..
Why? In my Eyes it was not the option to pick your skills that was the problem in H6, but the fact thet there were no valid alternative ways to focuse your hero.
If I had the H5 skillwheel whit free use, I still would have several interesting ways to chose my hero. In H6 I did not have many valid alternatives.
The Problem in my eyes is not in how we pick, but if there is more then one valid tree to chose from.
I voted for randomness but I admit that you score a point.
H5 skillwheel with no random choice would be very interesting too!
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted August 17, 2014 08:58 PM |
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Random all the way, 'eagle eye or mysticism' style!  
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Athos
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 17, 2014 09:02 PM |
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Random skill tree all the way. As close to H5 as possible, with maybe a little better ability to manipulate the chances to get a desired perk, but not 100%.
I really do not like pick and choose skills. That leads to constant re-use of optimized builds, which will inevitably result in a game where absolute skill balance is not possible to achieve.
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