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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted November 04, 2014 11:09 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 11:20, 04 Nov 2014.
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blizzardboy said: I should make an all-manticore faction in the Altar as a form of nonviolent protest to this outrageous infraction of justice.
Please do.
alcibiades said: Well, I'd blame the stupid constructs. I'm not overly enamoured with the Blade line-up either, and I could live without the Faceless if it ment Manticore instead, but frankly, the idea of the construct seems to boring, ill-fitting and unimaginative that I refuse to vote for either Faces or Shield.
So you rather go for Faceless and Shadowcorn because you don't like one unit in the more classical lineups ?
I'll tell you, I'm not appealed by the construct either, but for me Blade reminds too much of H6, spirit-wise.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted November 04, 2014 11:16 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 11:36, 04 Nov 2014.
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Kimarous said: The issue I have with Faces is that, in my eyes, it's too low on "beasts" - Trogs and Medusas are too humanoid, and the Striders... well, they're an unknown, but I suspect them as also being humanoid. That would only leave the Champions to serve that role... insufficient, I say.
My point exactly. It already happened with Sylvan, now we'll get another dose of all-too-many humanoid units...
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 04, 2014 12:21 PM |
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted November 04, 2014 12:23 PM |
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Stevie said: Porting the news here too since it's the appropriate thread - Denizens of Ygg-Chall
Thoughts please.
Not purple enough.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 04, 2014 12:24 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 12:30, 04 Nov 2014.
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Edit: Ok, not purple. Color palette seems improved.
But something more... substantial like the creatures themselves?
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted November 04, 2014 12:29 PM |
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Hydra and concept for Medusa look awesome!
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supertommy
Known Hero
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posted November 04, 2014 12:39 PM |
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Troglodyte art is just dumb. Why did they even do that?
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted November 04, 2014 12:42 PM |
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Hydra looks good, except the way the tail is lifted off the ground. Afaik snakes don't do that, it makes the hydra looks like a caterpillar.
Also, shouldn't it be more pale or gray instead of green?
The medusa looks great. However, as I feared this is a case of "Let's think of an excuse to put a naga in dungeon, because heroes 3."
About the strider we still don't know anything substantial. Only that it indeed seems to be really similar to golems
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted November 04, 2014 12:51 PM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 12:53, 04 Nov 2014.
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These living armours, made of Shadowsteel (or, some would say, grown from the very blood of the Faceless), are not dissimilar, in principle, to Wizards constructs like Golems or Gargoyles.
Striders are possessed by the essence of a Faceless puppeteer, who controls it from the shadows. While capable of standing their own in a fight, their main role is actually to disrupt and negate the enemy magic. Not many people have encountered Striders and lived to tell the tale therefore, I am unable to give you a reliable description of what the creature actually looks like! Most stories describe them as tall and gaunt, with long arms and legs, giving the Striders an almost insectile appearance.
Not the same.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 04, 2014 01:01 PM |
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Still don't like them at all.
My list would look like this:
1. Assassin 0
2. Lurker +
3. Skirmisher +
4. Troglodyte +
5. Stalker 0
6. Minotaur +
7. Nightmare ++
8. Faceless ++
9. Strider --
10. Medusa ++
11. Manticore ++
12. Shadow Dragon ++
13. Hydra +++
Too bad we didn't get any concept art on Nightmare and Strider but just judging from their descriptions I heavily favor Nightmare compared to Strider which I find extremely inappropriate in Dungeon.
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Neraus
Promising
Legendary Hero
Pain relief cream seller
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posted November 04, 2014 01:06 PM |
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I am perhaps the only one that likes Striders, especially given this "insect" appearance.
Also, how can't you like metal automaton insect?
And that's the reason I'm not going to shift from shield, as it really blends many creatures that you would expect underground.
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Noli offendere Patriam Agathae quia ultrix iniuriarum est.
ANTUDO
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 04, 2014 01:24 PM |
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I feel that Mechanical creatures have nothing to do with Dungeon. It's a faction based on mind affliction with dreams, visions, manipulation, soul erosion and whatnot. Those elves have to smoke shrooms all day to keep themselves sane, and then you throw in a creature without a soul? No way dude...
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jeremiahemo
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted November 04, 2014 01:31 PM |
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Medusas look like stupid ladies with a bow as expected.
Manticores are awesome.
Vote for Shield. Let's eliminate the most useless lineup: Malassa's Thousand Feces.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted November 04, 2014 01:43 PM |
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jeremiahemo said: Medusas look like stupid ladies with a bow as expected.
Manticores are awesome.
Vote for Shield. Let's eliminate the most useless lineup: Malassa's Thousand Feces.
this post is awfully designed.
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted November 04, 2014 01:44 PM |
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What makes them look stupid? I think they look awesome.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted November 04, 2014 01:45 PM |
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Hydra indeed looks awesome, the closes to Heroes 2 Hydra(and I fell in love with Heroes 2 Hydra the moment I saw it!), but can't judge the other units because they are from different games.
Sure Medusas look great as well, but I doubt it will be like that in game.
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Give a man a mask, and he'll
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meroe
Supreme Hero
Basically Smurfette
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posted November 04, 2014 01:45 PM |
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Medusa's don't look stupid at all. Go see a doctor would ya The artwork looked pretty nice considering its not the end result yet - doh.
The stalkers looked a little lame - not sure about that one.
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Meroe is definetely out, sweet
as she sounds sometimes, she'd
definetely castrate you with a
rusted razror and forcefeed
your genitals to you in a
blink of an eye - Kipshasz
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Lokheit
Known Hero
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posted November 04, 2014 01:47 PM |
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Edited by Lokheit at 13:48, 04 Nov 2014.
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While I still need to see them, I like the "insectoid" adjective to describe Strider's limbs, and the fact that it's controlled by Faceless from a distance makes me like it because:
- It keeps Faceless in the lore.
- The Faceless per se isn't devaluated by being elite like in the Blades lineup. This is a controlled minion and I'm fine with it being Elite.
Oh, and another mess up on Blades: Skirmishers are described as Bladedancer's equivalent but they are core instead of elite (well, maybe it's more Fury's fault as bladedancers shouldn't have been elite in the first place).
jeremiahemo said: Medusas look like stupid ladies with a bow as expected.
What else would you want from a creature that is a lady with snakes instead of hair to look like if not like a lady with snakes instead of hair? You were expecting a male torso or something? Medusas are what they are. At least they don't look like the horrible medusas from H4.
Btw I love that concept art, apparently it's from the canceled chinese HMMOnline or that's what I'm being told in the council forum. The color theme is refreshing for this faction, the bow looks great and if they win I hope it looks like that, much better and more menacing than H6 Nagas. I rarely like medusas as most times the snake hair looks ugly but this one looks great.
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fuChris
Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
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posted November 04, 2014 01:48 PM |
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Neraus said: I am perhaps the only one that likes Striders, especially given this "insect" appearance.
Also, how can't you like metal automaton insect?
The question remains. What insect will it resemble? Spider is necro territorry. Scorpion is basically the manticore. Other then that ant or maybe something crab-like in appearance. Mantiss is probably out of question as it is too outlandish.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted November 04, 2014 01:48 PM |
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Heroes III Troglos ROFL
Nightmares Shadowcorns are dissapointing, I'd had prefrered if they weren't Unicorns. And if this means they can't be part of Inferno in future games I'd be really, really mad.
Shadow/Black Dragons are going to be lame for the second game in a row
Skimisher concept is better than I expected.
Medussae are just renegade nagas...but hey, they aren't purple!
I think Striders can be good if they don't look like Golemns.
And legless Hydras look GREAT
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