Biobob said:

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H3MAPED_infinite



How to use: When placing those objects (like school of magic, etc.) manually, the program will still tell you there is a limit and it's not possible. You have to use 'CTRL + V' to make it work!

NOTE: This does not break the 48 town limit

How to install: Place it in the H3 Main directory! (Standard path is Standard path is C:/Program Files (x86)/3DO/Heroes 3 Complete/Maps)

Some useful tests by RoseKavalier

RoseKavalier said:

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Maximum number of ___ for safe load
Garrison: 255
Mines/Lighthouses: 255
Towns: 48 (already known)
Black Market: 639 (? crashes when I save at 640 - maybe some cap on Artifacts)

Seemingly infinite
Dwellings: no crash after 2,400+
Events: No crash after 1,700+
Stats boost (tried Garden, Arena & School of Magic) : no crash after 1,400+ [they are copies, so max is still the same]
Boats: no crash after 1,600+

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Download
H3MAPED_infinite

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Biobob said:

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Here is another little program - although of debatable use: it allows to set more objects than normally allowed in the H3 editor. However, the last normally allowed item's index is copied and used for every subsequent item (this means if you visit one of them, the other one will also count as visited). Still it has it's uses...

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RoseKavalier said:

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Maximum number of ___ for safe load
Garrison: 255
Mines/Lighthouses: 255
Towns: 48 (already known)
Black Market: 639 (? crashes when I save at 640 - maybe some cap on Artifacts)

Seemingly infinite
Dwellings: no crash after 2,400+
Events: No crash after 1,700+
Stats boost (tried Garden, Arena & School of Magic) : no crash after 1,400+ [they are copies, so max is still the same]
Boats: no crash after 1,600+

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RoseKavalier said:

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For example, I've extracted ZSnow001.def from ERA lod (the snowing animation). Then I renamed it icedelt4.def and placed it in /Data/. Now whenever I place the ice delta #4 in a map, it will appear as the snowing animation in game when using SoD. To remove this change, delete the .def in /Data/

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Biobob said:

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Day 1 Loss + No Secondary Skills Templates
We already went through the progress of creating maps with a loss condition of 1 day as well as creating maps without any secondary skills allowed. In case someone needs both of these options in one map, I have created templates in all sizes for convenience

Download
Day 1 Loss + No Secondary Skills Templates

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Biobob said:

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~SoD Mapmaker's Master Template~



Now, this map serves as a palette for people who are searching for the hidden items of the SoD editor we were talking about in the first few posts of this thread. I have put in ALL of the hidden items I was able to find, I think I didn't overlook any possibilities! I have also set the loss condition to day 1, disabled all secondary skills, and threw in some other nice objects I had found in other maps (mostly Aeris quamarine ones). Those objects don't cover everything (and is impossible to provide all, too many possibilities), but all the information needed is already in this thread

One size fits all
Download
~SoD Mapmaker's Master Template~

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Biobob said:

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Preventing the look at the editor is too evil for me, I leave that to you Another thing I tried was changing hero specialties, which worked to some extent, but not how I wanted. I was able to change personalities inside of the map editor, but once the game started, it reverted back to normal. If I change both parameters for specialties and personalities it does not work either...do you know how to put different specialties?

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Biobob said:

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Would be nice to have multiple Crags

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Biobob said:

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I edited the unclear information and added your tests to the previous post, if you are okay with that

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Biobob said:

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Also I need to know more about this:

RoseKavalier said:

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For example, I've extracted ZSnow001.def from ERA lod (the snowing animation). Then I renamed it icedelt4.def and placed it in /Data/. Now whenever I place the ice delta #4 in a map, it will appear as the snowing animation in game when using SoD. To remove this change, delete the .def in /Data/

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This will only work when using that modified file in data, right? For players that are not using said file, it will look like a noirmal ice delta #4 I guess? If not, that would be a gorgeous find

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zmudziak22 said:

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It is pozsible to get by hex diting conditions that are restricted to campaigns:
Victory - transport and accuire artifact with disabled "or defeat all enemies" Map only finish when you capture/transport specific artifact, no matter if there is AI or not
Loss - loss main hero(heroes) + time limit, lose more then 1 hero, lose hero(heroes) + plus lose town

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bloodsucker said:

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Maybe I'm missing someting, but once I have the table here can I manually copy/paste one of those values to assign an high level to a custom hero?

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fred79 said:

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lol, i think my day just got interesting.

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Salamandre said:

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fred79 said:

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lol, i think my day just got interesting.

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You discover now a feature your editor had it since 2005.

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posted May 19, 2016 04:32 PM

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frostymuaddib said:

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@fred79

You can try with Druuna comic. It may give you the results you want

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RoseKavalier said:

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Oh my. What have I done...

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Biobob said:

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Building a map using the WoG Editor's features

The finished map we are building today will look like this:



You are probably baffled by the amount of teleporters used in the map. To be more specific, there are more than 60 different teleporters used in this map! Also, the lighthouse at the end is a creature generator (the goal) and the map has been hex edited to have a loss condition of one day.

Let's get started:

These are the normally available 8 one way teleporters that can be used in a map:



Now, for an aspiring mapmaker, this can prove too little, especially when some AI paths have to be calculated carefully. Let's place some more

I want my finished monolith to look like a stone of learning, so place one, then Right Click -> Advanced Properties:



Trick one: Changing an object sprite

It lead us to this special window. From here, many new WoG features can be used, for now, click this button:



This practically copies the sprite of the learning stone which can then be used by other objects, allowing for some bad trickery, if wanted.

Now, place a new monolith one-way entrance and, once more, check the advanced properties:



It will look like this, press the 'paste' button:



Trick two: Changing an objects subtype (more teleporters)

You will see the sprite of the monolith change to the one of the learning stone. Next, change the number in the box 'subtype' from 0 to 8:



What we have just done was the most important part. To be more precise: Each type of different teleporter has a subtype (the blue one we have just used, for example, has the subtype 0), which defines the possible counterparts for that teleporter. Take a look at this:



Basically, each subtype only corresponds to other monoliths of it's subtype. What is to note is that the subtype counter starts at '0', so pay attention when changing numbers!

Now, by setting the subtype to '8' we have created a new type of teleporter. If you are mean, you can make it look the same, but I am not (for now), so I chose the look of stone of learning.

Trick three: Change the type of an object

This tool is not as mighty as the sprite changing, but still useful.

Place a stone of learning next to the recently placed monolith one way entrance and, once again, open the advanced properties.



By this, we have quickly changed the object type from 'Stone of Learning' to 'Monolith One-Way Entrance'. Next, change the subtype to 8 again:



Nice! We have finished our first new pair of teleporters!

NOTE: Never set '13' '14' or '15' as the subtype for a monolith, as it will make the map crash! Should you need that many, skip '13', '14' and '15' and continue at a higher number!



Next, we will learn how to do some trickery with objects to allow for new ground types!

For now, let's use this object:



Trick four: Changing an objects passability

By clicking on the objects' tiles with the corresponding mouse buttons, an objects passability can be changed (if you lack a middle mouse button, you can click on the tiles next to 'empty', 'object' and 'enter' to assign new buttons).

Trick five: Making objects part of the ground

Also, check the box 'A part of ground'. This practically makes the object 'flat', which will allow things to be placed on top of it. By previously making it passable, heroes will now be able to ride over it. We are on our way of creating a new ground type!

Now, place the object several times by using the 'CTRL + DRAG' combination. Depending on how you let the objects overlap, the ground looks different:



Trick six: Copying multiple objects at once from one map to another

Now, lets say we already have a map where the new ground shall be used. Select the 'brush tool', then select the 'copy' button, finally clicking on the upper left corner of the cluster that shall be copied. After that, finish by clicking the lower right corner.



Now, load the new map, and paste the whole cluster to the new map (can be done multiple times, be careful to be consistent in your placing direction, otherwise it will look bad). Also, place some trees over the corners of the ground, as it will look bad for some objects!



Lets take a look at the map in the editor (I used some different sprites for this map, be creative and make your own )



Unluckily, the minimap was spoiled by me placing some trees (as seen by the darker spots in the grass area)! Let's fix that:

Trick seven: Keeping the minimap clean

Let's place a tree on a new map. It will show up as a dark spot on the minimap. When hiding sneaky ways, this can be a hinderance. Also, place a 'shrub' object (from the swamp tab for example) on the map:



Notice how the shrub does not show up in the minimap like the trees do? We can use that to our advantage! First, make the trees 'empty' by the means learned above:



By placing the now empty trees (which don't show up on the minimap!!) over the previously placed shrubs, we have created trees, that don't show up on the minimap!



By using what we have learned so far (thanks for pointing that out, RoseKavalier), this process can be made even easier, by just changing the objects type to 'shrub'. This also saves much on maps objects numbers (so as to avoid crash).


Finally, we've got a perfect map

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