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posted March 06, 2017 02:12 AM |
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Hey guys just saw the friend code thing, feel free to add me WmvA4eyTf.
Also does anyone else have a lag when enemies get ressurected? Sometimes I'll kill everything except a healer and then one of my guys will get nuked out of nowhere and then an enemy I already killed will respawn like 10 sec later lol.
And does anyone make the big mistake of taking the wrong team into challenges like I do? makes me so mad haha.
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Stevie
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posted March 06, 2017 08:01 AM |
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lordgraa
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posted March 06, 2017 09:42 AM |
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Yeezussss said:
Also does anyone else have a lag when enemies get ressurected?
It is not "LAG" as we know it but it is more like "delayed effect stacking".
It happens with all creatures that have the ability to "resurrect" allies. You kill them with a single strike but their abillity still triggers and after 3-5s the resurrected creature is brought back... and with full mana ready to nuke your last creture down (or at least this happened to me).
So better kill those resurrectors before they are ready to use the ability next turn. Or simply silence/stun them 
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hayenne
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posted March 06, 2017 09:52 AM |
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Edited by hayenne at 10:00, 06 Mar 2017.
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So, I never managed to get a 4-dot Siren, but I could do some (biased) statistics for the record.
I did nothing but the quest all over the event duration starting from Lord and moving on to farming King. I got 43 Sirens over the course of the week (which is enough to awaken almost 3 of them) using Raenus's advice, 8 out of 43 are 3-dot, which translates roughly into a 18% drop rate for the 3-dot.
Fully awakening a Siren set me back 1.5 full energy bars to farm the blue grand wish quest for some fragments, 200 tokens for the basic chests (duh), 2 weeks worth of conserving the blue gems and a bit over 1 000 000 gold. I still need to beef her up with some totems, as I spent all my reserves on a legendary Gold Dragon and an epic Centaur, but it looks pretty solid so far and twice as healthy as my old primary healer, Muse:
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posted March 06, 2017 10:22 AM |
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Edited by Dulkan at 10:59, 06 Mar 2017.
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The new team is so much better, I can beat opponents 30 levels above me as long as I avoid certain bosses. If only the game hadn't gone into the habit of crashing during challenges. I've lost about 1000 prestige due to the crashes I've been experiencing since saturday and don't know what to do. Tried amazon app, tried reinstalling, always the same and it appears this is a fairly widespread problem.
Regarding dungeon bosses, I feel black or white creatures are the best choice. They aren't weak to any color but their opposite which they will also destroy, this gives them a lot more longetivity than red/blue/yellow/green bosses, as those have trouble uhrting their opposite color while taking extra damage from them.
I think the top dungeon bosses are:
1) vampire. special basically oneshots anybody, a lvl 75 vampire hit my creatures for 16k with special, heals him for a massive amount and he appears to also have some sort of self revive.
2) knight. massive damage aoe and very tough
3) stegosaurus. See above, but is blue instead of white.
4) black/white dragon. Not as strong on the offensive, but also extremely hard to kill
5) Lich. Basically a vampire without the lifesteal, also one shots anybody with his special.
6) Demon. Doesn't do enough damage to one shot.
7) Peri/Shaitan. Fairly low damage.
8) Phoenix. Can be countered by blue and cleanse.
I wouldn't add Valkyrie and Kirin here. Two white legendaries. The valkyrie doesn't do a lot of damage, she is mainly a buffer and the kirin is a healer.
Though maybe a Kirin could become nearly unkillable if it has 4 dots and his stats are good enough. But that may be countered with black. Maybe a combination of knight and then Kirin would be unbeatable, as the knight eliminates any black creatures and then the remainder is unable to kill the Kirin. This would basically require you attack with several good blacks including a silence/stun to prevent the knight from wiping them.
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hayenne
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posted March 06, 2017 10:31 AM |
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As I work in IT, I'd wager the crashes could be attributed to running OOM (out of mana memory). Unfortunately, it seems the game is plagued by memory leaks so it basically eats up memory and does not release all of it.
So for the time being try the following:
 Close all other apps you don't use any more while running the game
Quit and restart the game every day (more often if you play extensively). The game running slower will hint it might crash soon.
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Stevie
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posted March 06, 2017 10:53 AM |
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Edited by Stevie at 10:53, 06 Mar 2017.
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Yea, by the end of it I had acquired more than 40 Sirens myself, 10 of which were 3 dot. It's a great healer, I had it before the event and it did a lot of work. I'm led to believe that we'll get the another chance at a 4 dot Siren sometime in the future since apparently the events started to rotate.
If I'm not mistaken, the order of the events is this: Green (Treant) -> Red (Ogre) -> Blue (Siren) -> Yellow (Elephant) -> Black (Dark Elemental) -> White (Light Elemental).
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yeezussss
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posted March 06, 2017 10:56 AM |
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Dulkan said:
The new team is so much better, I can beat opponents 30 levels above me as long as I avoid certain bosses. If only the game hadn't gone into the habit of crashing during challenges. I've lost about 1000 prestige due to the crashes I've been experiencing since saturday and don't know what to do. Tried amazon app, tried reinstalling, always the same and it appears this is a fairly widespread problem.
Regarding dungeon bosses, I feel black or white creatures are the best choice. They aren't weak to any color but their opposite which they will also destroy, this gives them a lot more longetivity than red/blue/yellow/green bosses, as those have trouble uhrting their opposite color while taking extra damage from them.
I think the top dungeon bosses are:
1) vampire. special basically oneshots anybody, a lvl 75 vampire hit my creatures for 16k with special, heals him for a massive amount and he appears to also have some sort of self revive.
2) knight. massive damage aoe and very tough
3) stegosaurus. See above, but is blue instead of white.
4) black/white dragon. Not as strong on the offensive, but also extremely hard to kill
5) Lich. Basically a vampire without the lifesteal, also one shots anybody with his special.
6) Demon. Doesn't do enough damage to one shot.
7) Peri/Shaitan. Fairly low damage.
8) Phoenix. Can be countered by blue and cleanse.
I wouldn't add Valkyrie and Kirin here. Two white legendaries. The vlakyrie doesn't do a lot of damage, she is mainly a buffer and the kirin is a healer. Though maybe a Kirin could become nearly unkillable if it has 4 dots and his stats are good enough.
I have Vampire, there's no self revive in any of the awakenings. Probably just a heal that was timed weird.
For me Stegosaurus is the only boss I avoid as my healer is red. I also have lich and colossus which is usually enough to finish off most bosses besides Stego.
Which one is the knight?
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Dulkan
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posted March 06, 2017 11:04 AM |
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Edited by Dulkan at 11:04, 06 Mar 2017.
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Knight is white.
Weird. Does the vampire heal with each attack? The vamp I fought revived himself three times with around 25% hp and didn't use his special during any of the kills.
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posted March 06, 2017 11:05 AM |
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Dulkan said:
The new team is so much better, I can beat opponents 30 levels above me as long as I avoid certain bosses. If only the game hadn't gone into the habit of crashing during challenges. I've lost about 1000 prestige due to the crashes I've been experiencing since saturday and don't know what to do. Tried amazon app, tried reinstalling, always the same and it appears this is a fairly widespread problem.
Regarding dungeon bosses, I feel black or white creatures are the best choice. They aren't weak to any color but their opposite which they will also destroy, this gives them a lot more longetivity than red/blue/yellow/green bosses, as those have trouble uhrting their opposite color while taking extra damage from them.
I think the top dungeon bosses are:
1) vampire. special basically oneshots anybody, a lvl 75 vampire hit my creatures for 16k with special, heals him for a massive amount and he appears to also have some sort of self revive.
2) knight. massive damage aoe and very tough
3) stegosaurus. See above, but is blue instead of white.
4) black/white dragon. Not as strong on the offensive, but also extremely hard to kill
5) Lich. Basically a vampire without the lifesteal, also one shots anybody with his special.
6) Demon. Doesn't do enough damage to one shot.
7) Peri/Shaitan. Fairly low damage.
8) Phoenix. Can be countered by blue and cleanse.
I wouldn't add Valkyrie and Kirin here. Two white legendaries. The vlakyrie doesn't do a lot of damage, she is mainly a buffer and the kirin is a healer. Though maybe a Kirin could become nearly unkillable if it has 4 dots and his stats are good enough.
my level 90 vampire gets crushed quite easily, He doesn't seem to do that much sadly. Same counts for my cyclops, minotaur and archdemon. His special ability heals him but not his auto attacks (only possible if he had 'healer' basic attack and hit you with a critical strike).
The power of an opposing boss really depends on your own team, stegosaurus for example deals damage based on his defence stat so it's very tanky, but if you manage to break it's defence then you also break it's damage.
If you lack damage the Phoenix is a monster, but you can despell it's damage overtime with creatures like the siren which helps a lot (tough luck if your siren is the main target though, even though you despell she will still die :/ ).
I also really dislike the....frost dragon I think it is? it perma stuns your entire team....very annoying.
Next dungeon I want to try out a theory: create waves based on color (so wave one only fire creatures, so hopefully you kill a green creature quickly, wave two only electric creatures so if your fire got countered with water, you will counter water and hopefully kill a creature etc). I feel like If you can kill one of the combo chains in a dungeon, your bosses will mop up the rest of the team.
Has anyone tried to recycle a boss creature yet? does it give any special rewards? If not, hopefully Hungrydragon will return some day to answer the question
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markmasters
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posted March 06, 2017 11:08 AM |
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Stevie said:
Yea, by the end of it I had acquired more than 40 Sirens myself, 10 of which were 3 dot. It's a great healer, I had it before the event and it did a lot of work. I'm led to believe that we'll get the another chance at a 4 dot Siren sometime in the future since apparently the events started to rotate.
If I'm not mistaken, the order of the events is this: Green (Treant) -> Red (Ogre) -> Blue (Siren) -> Yellow (Elephant) -> Black (Dark Elemental) -> White (Light Elemental).
Yeah I think you're right about this trend, but hopefully they will change it anyonetime soon so we can collect some new creatures
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Dulkan
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posted March 06, 2017 11:40 AM |
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markmasters said:
my level 90 vampire gets crushed quite easily, He doesn't seem to do that much sadly. Same counts for my cyclops, minotaur and archdemon. His special ability heals him but not his auto attacks (only possible if he had 'healer' basic attack and hit you with a critical strike).
Don't really understand. As I said, I only attacked a vampire once and he had around 30k hp, hit my people for 16k with his special (I don't have any white creatures) and whenever I killed him he revived with 25% hp, despite not using his special. This happened three times before he was finally down for good. And that was only a 5-star, 3-dot lvl 75 vampire.
I only won because he used his special twice in 12 attacks.
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Stevie
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posted March 06, 2017 11:45 AM |
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Dulkan
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posted March 06, 2017 11:52 AM |
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It's a shame low level tomes are so rare. I'd love to do a test run of all the basic attacks to determine what exactly their modifiers are and which basic attack is best.
Maybe we could do this together? We'd need to select a creature, preferrably a small one without evolutions on lvl 15, so using tomes is cheap. Then do battle tower 1 and check how much damage it deals to the priamry target and the others to claculate the damage modifiers based on it's power.
Also combo dots. I've been wondering whether you'd want 3 to 4 different dots or settle for 2. activating the combo gets harder the more differently colored dots are on it and I don't think the extra multiplier is worth effort. combo x4 appears to be +50% damage, x8 around +80%. So having 4-dots with two different colors may be the better choice, as you still get the extra mana, but can trigger the combo much more easily.
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Stevie
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posted March 06, 2017 12:04 PM |
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I agree with your observations there. But I think the best course of action is to ask the devs first. I don't think they'd be unwilling to share some info on multipliers and such.
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yeezussss
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posted March 06, 2017 12:04 PM |
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Dulkan said:
markmasters said:
my level 90 vampire gets crushed quite easily, He doesn't seem to do that much sadly. Same counts for my cyclops, minotaur and archdemon. His special ability heals him but not his auto attacks (only possible if he had 'healer' basic attack and hit you with a critical strike).
Don't really understand. As I said, I only attacked a vampire once and he had around 30k hp, hit my people for 16k with his special (I don't have any white creatures) and whenever I killed him he revived with 25% hp, despite not using his special. This happened three times before he was finally down for good. And that was only a 5-star, 3-dot lvl 75 vampire.
I only won because he used his special twice in 12 attacks.
I've noticed when I use my Vamp, the hp that's healed from his special shows up delayed. Meaning I'll use his special when he's low, and he'll still appear to have low hp but then I'll attack with a couple more guys and his hp jumps up from the special. It's also appeared that he died even though I used his special, only for him to be back alive after a couple guys go. Hope that makes sense, kinda hard to explain
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markmasters
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posted March 06, 2017 12:14 PM |
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yeezussss said:
Dulkan said:
markmasters said:
my level 90 vampire gets crushed quite easily, He doesn't seem to do that much sadly. Same counts for my cyclops, minotaur and archdemon. His special ability heals him but not his auto attacks (only possible if he had 'healer' basic attack and hit you with a critical strike).
Don't really understand. As I said, I only attacked a vampire once and he had around 30k hp, hit my people for 16k with his special (I don't have any white creatures) and whenever I killed him he revived with 25% hp, despite not using his special. This happened three times before he was finally down for good. And that was only a 5-star, 3-dot lvl 75 vampire.
I only won because he used his special twice in 12 attacks.
I've noticed when I use my Vamp, the hp that's healed from his special shows up delayed. Meaning I'll use his special when he's low, and he'll still appear to have low hp but then I'll attack with a couple more guys and his hp jumps up from the special. It's also appeared that he died even though I used his special, only for him to be back alive after a couple guys go. Hope that makes sense, kinda hard to explain
I support this motion from my own experience, if the special is used it might seem the heal is delayed a bit, so it seems to resurect himself while the only thing that really happens is that his heal shows up delayed. This especially happens if you 'swipe' with your attacks, The animations will show first (thus kill the vampire) and the heal will pop up somewhere inbetween.
It works the same as attacker, when you use the ability of the vampire and it gets killed it will die first, and then resurect because the healing was a bit delayed in the animation.
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Stevie
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posted March 06, 2017 12:17 PM |
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Currently destroying my group. This Storm Giant is really a great legendary, I am amazed how much work AoE stun can do. I love it. I can beat almost anything. The guy on top 2 had about 20k prestige and I took 241 off him in one go. There's also way less attacks on me and I started to win some more defenses. I might finish the event in top 10 which is kinda amazing considering what beastly players there are in here. That said, I do have 2 yellow legendaries and that's quite a problem when I'm countered.
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yeezussss
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posted March 06, 2017 12:52 PM |
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Stevie said:
Currently destroying my group. This Storm Giant is really a great legendary, I am amazed how much work AoE stun can do. I love it. I can beat almost anything. The guy on top 2 had about 20k prestige and I took 241 off him in one go. There's also way less attacks on me and I started to win some more defenses. I might finish the event in top 10 which is kinda amazing considering what beastly players there are in here. That said, I do have 2 yellow legendaries and that's quite a problem when I'm countered.
Nice, I'm in that same group. If you get top 10 in this group that's very impressive. I'm hoping to get top 25.
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Dulkan
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posted March 06, 2017 01:37 PM |
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Edited by Dulkan at 13:42, 06 Mar 2017.
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Stevie said:
Currently destroying my group. This Storm Giant is really a great legendary, I am amazed how much work AoE stun can do. I love it. I can beat almost anything. The guy on top 2 had about 20k prestige and I took 241 off him in one go. There's also way less attacks on me and I started to win some more defenses. I might finish the event in top 10 which is kinda amazing considering what beastly players there are in here. That said, I do have 2 yellow legendaries and that's quite a problem when I'm countered.
Funny how you considered this to be a lame legendary just a few pages ago and now he is the reason your rock through the dungeon. 
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