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artu
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posted February 19, 2018 07:10 PM |
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i started getting pissed because i wasn't getting through to people who would rather argue with reality my overwhelmingly shallow, subjective and biased interpretation of reality.
Fixed that for you. 
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posted February 19, 2018 08:24 PM |
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Fred I am sure Joonas' offer is genuine and not an attempt to "attack" or ridicule you.
Actually, many years ago he helped me too, which I think is demonstrated by the difference between my current posts and those I made back around 09/10.
I don't know if you remember, but some time ago Geny wrote something along the lines that he refused to read my posts back then. I think my change helped a lot.
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posted February 19, 2018 08:43 PM |
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Edited by PandaTar at 20:44, 19 Feb 2018.
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It's always good improving the way we communicate with each other. It mostly makes threads like these unnecessary, when one learns from it. Also helps with interpretation, specially when you play with formatting, where infatuation over terms may vary a lot in understanding amongst other members, specially because there are many other cultures here reading it. I, for one, would be glad to be offered such help. We never know too much about anything, but we may always improve and refine it; and be thankful someone does care.
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Celfious
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posted February 19, 2018 08:56 PM |
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Thanks fred. Don't let them get you down. On chief.
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fred79
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posted February 19, 2018 09:39 PM |
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artu said:
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i started getting pissed because i wasn't getting through to people who would rather argue with reality my overwhelmingly shallow, subjective and biased interpretation of reality.
Fixed that for you.
you sure did! but you forgot to post this spam in the vw! silly artu. 
@ this thread and everyone who thinks it's actually joonas trying to help me(because god knows i need it, fo sho!):
man oh man, i shore wish i wuzzint so huurrrr durrrrr DUMB! bad brain!*smacks head* i gots da dumb! help meeeeee! help meeeeeeeeeeeeee! 
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posted February 20, 2018 03:06 AM |
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@ohforf
God, I saved so much time and effort back then.
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Doomforge
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posted February 20, 2018 10:48 AM |
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Fred, in all honesty, please stop your tier system of sentences lol.
Tier 1: A sentence of average importance
Tier 2: A sentence of higher importance
Tier 3: A SENTENCE OF HIGH IMPORTANCE
Tier 4: A SENTENCE OF VERY HIGH IMPORTANCE
Tier 5: A SENTENCE OF UTTERMOST IMPORTANCE
I get it, you want to underline stuff that's important to you and all, but going through posts written in your "tier structure" makes you look desperate, or frustrated. It does not help to read through your thoughts, but it does make you look overly angry and a picture of a guy shouting at the screen comes to mind.
No offense.
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posted February 20, 2018 11:41 AM |
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We had a jester not long ago who used "lol" for punctuation and nothing else, no one batted an eye. In fact, everyone encouraged it, finding it funny and witty and laughed their asses off. Now you come and say fred's way of writing is unacceptable? Fred's little emphasis here and there that stands for intonation? Really?
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verriker
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posted February 20, 2018 12:17 PM |
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even though I have been banned to have a gun because I am Scottish and I have probably not been killed yet, personally if I were the trump I would not go extreme to ban the guns because the gun is not too different to the knife or the first stone,
it is rather the major systemic issue where people will vote to kill themselves off as much as they will kill themselves with the gun, one needs a wide ass change of culture on that, let he who is without sin cast the first gun cheers and USA USA USA ************* lol
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fred79
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posted February 20, 2018 12:35 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 12:40, 20 Feb 2018.
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Doomforge said:
Fred, in all honesty, please stop your tier system of sentences lol.
Tier 1: A sentence of average importance
Tier 2: A sentence of higher importance
Tier 3: A SENTENCE OF HIGH IMPORTANCE
Tier 4: A SENTENCE OF VERY HIGH IMPORTANCE
Tier 5: A SENTENCE OF UTTERMOST IMPORTANCE
I get it, you want to underline stuff that's important to you and all, but going through posts written in your "tier structure" makes you look desperate, or frustrated. It does not help to read through your thoughts, but it does make you look overly angry and a picture of a guy shouting at the screen comes to mind.
No offense.
i've already stated that i become frustrated and exasperated when attempting to reach people on important issues here. this has already been covered; i even explained my frustration repeatedly in the mass shooting thread. but i DO like how you got my posting style down to tiers; that's amusing.
i understand how caps or red font might make me look angry, but i'm not angry unless i'm using exclamation marks in an serious(not deliberately amusing) sentence. the punctuation i use, is to better enunciate my point, and that's it.
the fact that i don't reach some people regardless of how i type, is more of an issue, than how i type. content and understanding over presentation. i'm not using hieroglyphs, ffs. it's not like someone can't figure out wtf i'm saying. i'm typing in ENGLISH. and what's more, my posting style is HARDLY obnoxious. if you want to nitpick anything, nitpick with someone who gives a flying snow about tiny things that have no bearing on the meat of an issue. there are obviously more important things to focus on. OBVIOUSLY.
if my posting style actually rubs someone the wrong way, then maybe they'd just be better off not reading my posts regardless; it's not like i'm reaching the people who really need to be reached, anyway. the people who have no issue with my posting style tend to understand my words without issue. so maybe the underlying problem isn't my presentation at all. maybe the issue is, the people who specifically don't agree with me want to nitpick and not move forward in a conversation or discussion, but instead become even more hard to deal with than they already are by pointing out they it's difficult or impossible to comprehend me because i use ENUNCIATION, of all things. i mean, come on. get real.
i've stated before, that i don't even believe for a second this thread is a genuine attempt at "help". do you understand just WHY i might think that?
edit: thank you, stevie. it's obvious what's going on here, but having another person point that out besides myself, gives me some comfort that at least one other person isn't lacking in understanding of the goal with this thread.
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Doomforge
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posted February 20, 2018 01:16 PM |
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Idk what the goal of the thread is. It may be a joke, or it may be a lynching campaign against you. I have nothing against you personally, however, it does make it somehow uneasy and confusing to read the "tiers" of your sentences, fred. I know you're trying to underline stuff but trust me, for me, it actually accomplishes the opposite and it makes reading through your posts harder, similarly how it's harder to speak to someone who replies back by shouting. He makes a point, sure, but you're kinda tired afterwards.
Again, no offense meant.
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Maurice
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posted February 20, 2018 01:34 PM |
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fred79 said:
i've stated before, that i don't even believe for a second this thread is a genuine attempt at "help". do you understand just WHY i might think that?
In all honesty, while I can't read JoonasTo's mind, I do recall an escalating series of events about a year ago. Blames of things like "personal crusade" and such were thrown around, with an unhealthy sauce of paranoia covering it.
Yet, here we are; you're still part of this community - and Stevie even sided with you here  . I have given you a QP or two in the mean time and understand and agree with your point of view about guns not being the actual problem with regards to the mass shootings happening in the US.
So, yes, I do think at least part of the sentiments you might feel are stuff in the category of "eye of the beholder" .
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fred79
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posted February 20, 2018 01:50 PM |
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@ doomforge: i don't know what to tell you. i don't feel like i get anything across to people unless i enuciate words. this is both here and irl. and again, sadly, i don't reach them regardless. but at least i feel i've made my point as clear and concise as possible, afterward.
@ maurice: i understand the point you're trying to make. but just because i have a combative personality, doesn't mean people don't tend to dislike or even hate me sometimes for whatever reason. you wouldn't believe just how many people hate me for various reasons, even among my own family(which is why i have disowned some of them). in fact, i was just coming back to consider making a thread based on how people deal with the fact that people might hate them for who they are or where they're from personally.
because i get the feeling that, merely because i'm american, i garner a lot of hate from people in an international forum. that might be the underlying cause behind a lot of the more intense squabbles here; even in a gaming forum, of all places. i frankly feel less and less comfortable here, the more i discuss serious issues with people. it seems to bring out the disgust or hatred of americans in general with them. like run-of-the-mill americans are behind our greedhead's destructive foreign policy, or something. despite the fact that i am largely benevolent towards nearly all different nations.
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Doomforge
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posted February 20, 2018 01:56 PM |
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If it does make you feel any better, I'd trade nationalities with you in a heartbeat...
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Maurice
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posted February 20, 2018 02:02 PM |
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Given that you have a combatative personality, couldn't it be that you quickly get the impression that you're being targeted personally, when people are giving condescending opinions about America and Americans in general? Those are things that are close to you, after all, so an 'attack' (if you will call it that) against America - whether it's politics, culture, etc... - might feel as if someone is infringing on your personal feelings and beliefs?
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fred79
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posted February 20, 2018 02:18 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 14:20, 20 Feb 2018.
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no, not infringing, that's ridiculous. just refusing to hear me and disliking me off the bat simply because i'm american. writing me off, as it were.
@ doomforge: i had forgotten that you are still applying for a visa here. how long has it been now, anyway? and which state are you trying to live in/what work are you seeking?
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Doomforge
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posted February 20, 2018 02:29 PM |
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Well, I've been trying for 2 futile years and this year is the 3rd.
I would settle for any state for starters, albeit obviously the warmer ones make me drool, since I hate the winter. 
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fred79
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posted February 20, 2018 02:43 PM |
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well, i'd give you a pass myself if i could, even though you're anti-gun. 
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Doomforge
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posted February 20, 2018 02:53 PM |
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I'd rather call myself gun-doubter, haha.
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fred79
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posted February 20, 2018 02:54 PM |
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