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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Has anybody else here noticed that this forum is less friendly than it used to be?
Thread: Has anybody else here noticed that this forum is less friendly than it used to be? This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV / NEXT»
Blizzardboy
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posted August 13, 2020 03:14 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 15:29, 13 Aug 2020.

I didn't read the OSM very much back then. I still glance over the extremely long posts that become cyclical. The main thing I noticed about Elodin is that people could get away with insulting him and not get penalized and then I remember an occasion when Elodin got a penalty for something extremely trivial, lol. I think he got under the skin of the mods in addition to a few members.

That was only one individual poster though. Even before my recent string of threads in the past several weeks, it seems like the internet is a rougher place in general.

Zenofex's suggestion that I'm looking at the past with rose-colored glasses is a good point and I've considered that, but I've looked back at a few threads in 2008-2010 instead of relying on my memory and I'm not sure I agree with that. Then again, I was mostly oriented in the actual Heroes content back then.
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posted August 13, 2020 03:51 PM

Stevie said:
Gnomes2169 said:
Mytical literally died...


What? Really?


Mytical was talking about ongoing severe health problems and then eventually stopped posting entirely. So, yeah, probably.
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posted August 13, 2020 04:57 PM
Edited by artu at 16:58, 13 Aug 2020.

If you go really back, I mean waaay back, like to 2010 or so, yes, it’s a friendlier environment. But such polarization was way before covid19, even before Trump.

I think, since like 2015 - 2016, the differences of opinion became more personal and sharpened, and not just in this place. The internet culture, massive immigration, rise of the populist authoritarian leaders since conventional ways of democracy dont seem to work like they used to... it all snowballed into this new polarized world.

Then, most people who were relaxed or politically correct said “screw this” and left. So things became even more edgy.
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posted August 13, 2020 05:28 PM

I would also point out to the popularization of social media. Idiocy has become even more widespread (you just see it on regular basis) and clashes of worldviews became more aggresive. I know it was always there, but with the raise of Internet it has become more visible. For example back in the day I wouldn't be bothered by this and that or ignore it altogether, but each day I read about something that makes me triggered, be it politics or political correctness. It's probably why it also pushes me to write some stuff even if I'm not exactly attentive about it. I should know better...

All in all, I feel like the world has somewhat become more edgy in the past few years... it's a general obeservation that I see in myself and those around me.

Or maybe let's just call it me getting older XD

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posted August 13, 2020 05:30 PM

It's not just you getting older.
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posted August 13, 2020 05:37 PM

artu said:
Then, most people who were relaxed or politically correct said “screw this” and left. So things became even more edgy.


Meroe and Adrius were two man-hating feminists who spread anti-male bs and hatred in the osm, and kiryu was a straight-male-hating poster who somehow became moderator. Those were 3 people off the top of my head that were instigators in the older days. I remember the older days, and there were more haters spreading nonsense then(and more penalties being given out, too). More civil, my ass. Blizz has been a major instigator of unrest here as of late, by trying to combine everything that pisses normal-thinking people off, and stoking fires. Then he makes threads like this and plays innocent, and people fall for it. That, and all the leftists parroting their toxic, lying media.

The reason things are even an issue currently, is because the leftists are out of control, now(just as they were programmed to be). Anyone actually paying attention to the world, and with enough brain cells to think for themselves and not be DICTATED how to think, could identify what's going down, currently.

If the leftists want HC to be an nonsensical echo-chamber, then they'll have to get rid of myself, sal, kip, and a few others.

Which is what this thread is REALLY about. Can't say that i'm surprised; but a gaming forum? Really? Don't the left ALREADY have near complete control(through their moderation) of twitter, reddit, instagram, facebook, and others? Why gaming forums, too? Why are you leftists constantly petititioning authority to rid the world of "dissenters" so you can all have safe-spaces to spread your tripe? Can't handle thinking people calling you out on your bs, or what?

Stop playing like you're innocent. You're anything but.

This thread's creation is FAR from benign.

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posted August 13, 2020 05:54 PM

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Meroe and Adrius were two man-hating feminists who spread anti-male bs and hatred in the osm, and kiryu was a straight-male-hating poster who somehow became moderator. Those were 3 people off the top of my head that were instigators in the older days.

In the older days, Meroe, Adrius and Kiryu weren't anywhere near the OSM.

*walks away grumbling to himself*
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fred79
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posted August 13, 2020 06:01 PM

Lol. I ain't been here as long as the ancients.

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posted August 13, 2020 06:02 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 18:11, 13 Aug 2020.

fred79 said:
Meroe and Adrius were two man-hating feminists who spread anti-male bs and hatred in the osm, and kiryu was a straight-male-hating poster who somehow became moderator. Those were 3 people off the top of my head that were instigators in the older days. I remember the older days, and there were more haters spreading nonsense then(and more penalties being given out, too). More civil, my ass. Blizz has been a major instigator of unrest here as of late, by trying to combine everything that pisses normal-thinking people off, and stoking fires. Then he makes threads like this and plays innocent, and people fall for it. That, and all the leftists parroting their toxic, lying media.

The reason things are even an issue currently, is because the leftists are out of control, now(just as they were programmed to be). Anyone actually paying attention to the world, and with enough brain cells to think for themselves and not be DICTATED how to think, could identify what's going down, currently.

If the leftists want HC to be an nonsensical echo-chamber, then they'll have to get rid of myself, sal, kip, and a few others.

Which is what this thread is REALLY about. Can't say that i'm surprised; but a gaming forum? Really? Don't the left ALREADY have near complete control(through their moderation) of twitter, reddit, instagram, facebook, and others? Why gaming forums, too? Why are you leftists constantly petititioning authority to rid the world of "dissenters" so you can all have safe-spaces to spread your tripe? Can't handle thinking people calling you out on your bs, or what?

Stop playing like you're innocent. You're anything but.

This thread's creation is FAR from benign.


1st: I have dialed-down my posting style somewhat since people were getting worked up, but I still have a right to post about contemporary issues, including subjects such as racism, white privilege, BLM, sexism, the societal evils of abortion and pornography, the decline of Western influence, etc. They might elicit strong reactions but that is unavoidable. I can't control other people. It says much more about them then it does about me.

2nd: Your retelling of HC history is extremely biased, to say the least.

3rd: To the best of my memory, I have never called for anybody to get banned, ever. You readily paint yourself as the victim and yet here you are, expressing your view like everybody else. Could you specifically say what you have a problem with instead of being vague?
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posted August 13, 2020 06:09 PM

You create a bunch of nonsensical, inflammatory threads, then when those create a toxic community because sane individuals respond RIGHTFULLY to this nonsense, you create a thread wondering why things aren't as genial as they used to be.

Like i said, stop pretending you're innocent. Your threads are straight-up inflammatory.

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posted August 13, 2020 06:10 PM

Oh, well, maybe the forum is a bit less friendly, after all.
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posted August 13, 2020 06:13 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 18:29, 13 Aug 2020.

fred79 said:
You create a bunch of nonsensical, inflammatory threads, then when those create a toxic community because sane individuals respond RIGHTFULLY to this nonsense, you create a thread wondering why things aren't as genial as they used to be.

Like i said, stop pretending you're innocent. Your threads are straight-up inflammatory.


Fred, respectfully, anybody who supports BLM is "inflammatory" in your book. If you were a mod you probably would have banned me already because I don't have identical political views as you do. Kiryu was allegedly a "straight male-hating feminist" as you claim, and yet I don't seem to recall him banning people.

It's unfortunate that you can't see the irony in it all.

Also - as I have already stated - I am talking about a wider timeframe than my recent postings in the OSM.
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posted August 13, 2020 06:41 PM

The unfriendlyness in former times were mostly about the game and their (newbie) players...not so much in OSM.

Nowadays there is not much heat in game discussions...if there is any (real) discussion anyway.

I have the feeling the bad temper just comes out of the OSM threads, not of any other fora. Extremists rule the political discussions there and go limbo with normal moral and behaviour standards.

It always starts when someone stats a personal opinion as a FACT...then the "war" begins

Maybe some should just ask themselves if they would like to discuss with a twin of themselves...and if they would enjoy that...
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posted August 13, 2020 06:43 PM

No I see only one persons with big problems! Rest is nearly ok! Ofcourse theyre not ideal but I see this forum very friendly I think that MM spirit, JVC spirit is very good and has good consequences for all players! Best games ever! Play and your kids your friends etc. :0)))

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posted August 13, 2020 06:44 PM
Edited by fred79 at 18:48, 13 Aug 2020.

@ blizz:

1. Mods can't ban people. Believe me, if kiryu was the admin of the site here, many people would be banned. His hcm's with me told me all i need to know; as if his posts weren't enough.

2. Blm isn't the only thing you post that is inflammatory, and you know this. Your threads are straight-up inflammatory. You come across as a literal meme irl; which is the reason why kip gave you that nickname. It's not because he just hates your posts for no reason. The only thing that keeps me from being legit angry with you, is because i think all of this is really trolling. You post like a caricature of the left.

That other people parrot the globalist agenda here at a gaming forum, is their problem. You, on the other hand, are either deliberately trying to incite unrest here, or are trolling everyone.

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posted August 13, 2020 06:51 PM

fred79 said:
@ blizz:

1. Mods can't ban people. Believe me, if kiryu was the admin of the site here, many people would be banned. His hcm's with me told me all i need to know; as if his posts weren't enough.

2. Blm isn't the only thing you post that is inflammatory, and you know this. Your threads are straight-up inflammatory. You come across as a literal meme irl; which is the reason why kip gave you that nickname. It's not because he just hates your posts for no reason. The only thing that keeps me from being legit angry with you, is because i think all of this is really trolling. You post like a caricature of the left.

That other people parrot the globalist agenda here at a gaming forum, is their problem. You, on the other hand, are either deliberately trying to incite unrest here, or are trolling everyone.


To the best of my knowledge, a mod can silence a poster for a very long time and that is pretty much the same thing as a ban. Kiryu didn't do this.

As for the rest: we've already been over this before in the US politics thread, so it's all cyclical and I'm not interested in being drawn in.

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posted August 13, 2020 06:55 PM

@ blizz: drawn in? So it was i that created the bait threads? Huh. Must have been drunk. Sorry about that.

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posted August 13, 2020 07:53 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 19:57, 13 Aug 2020.

fred79 said:
Blizz has been a major instigator of unrest here as of late, by trying to combine everything that pisses normal-thinking people off, and stoking fires. Then he makes threads like this and plays innocent, and people fall for it.
This.
fred79 said:
If the leftists want HC to be an nonsensical echo-chamber, then they'll have to get rid of myself, sal, kip, and a few others.
You can count me in, cause I'm a leftist but won't buy a narrative where one person should be fired for the behavior of another (despise being his wife) or a teacher cause he refused to discriminate in favor of blacks.
Again, it's something called ethics. I won't lye to protect my ass and I won't lye to protect my leaning.
fred79 said:
Stop playing like you're innocent. You're anything but.

This thread's creation is FAR from benign.
And everyone sees it even if some pretend not to.

Baronus said:
No I see only one persons with big problems!
Are you looking at a mirror?  

Blizzardboy said:
we've already been over this before in the US politics thread, so it's all cyclical and I'm not interested in being drawn in.
That's the reason you opened another thread about the subject, right?
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posted August 13, 2020 08:29 PM

I think these responses answer the question of the topic pretty well lol.

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posted August 13, 2020 08:34 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 20:35, 13 Aug 2020.

Does that mean you believe the answers are untrue?
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