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Thread: CMV - this is the solution to 99% of the cases of transgenderism This thread is 6 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 · «PREV / NEXT»
artu
artu


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posted April 29, 2021 04:38 PM
Edited by artu at 16:40, 29 Apr 2021.

@Kip

Having a sex-change operation after approved psychiatric evaluation is not exactly Van Gogh cutting off his ear though.
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Kipshasz
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posted April 29, 2021 04:40 PM

the 42% chance of one becoming an hero begs to differ.
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fred79
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posted April 29, 2021 04:41 PM
Edited by fred79 at 16:42, 29 Apr 2021.

what was that? you ate the whole... wheel of cheese? ...and you pooped in the refrigerator?

damnit kip, you snaked me.

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Gandalf196
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posted April 29, 2021 04:45 PM
Edited by Gandalf196 at 16:48, 29 Apr 2021.

artu said:
The verifiable information does not classify transexuality as a mental illness. The problem is how you don't get that to begin with. Genes and hormones functioning differently is not a mental delusion. Why are you okay with gays then? Shouldnt that also be a perversion by your perspective?



There is not, as far as we know, a "gay gene" (btw some research suggests that epigenetic influence could be the key, but nobody knows for sure) - and it is a rather tricky question the more you ponder about it: does a single homossexual encounter make someone gay? If not, then how many? Well, it must be related to attraction, but what if someone is not attracted to the sex per se but to some feature commonly associated with it, like feminnity - some men are more feminine than some women (especially today in the West ). The point here being: there's room for doubt, we do not understand sexual attraction at all. However, the same cannot be said about the sexual identity of human beings. Here, we have a clear marker: men are XY and women are XX, period. Scream and shout all you want, paste all those studies which take a statistically insignifcant parameter to conclude that there as many genders as the dollars to fund this crappy research, it does not change a thing.
To further clarify my position: I'm okay with adults enganging in any sort of sexual activity, as long as that is not promoted as the "new normal". Wanna bang with three dudes and have them ejaculate in your mouth while dressed as a character from My Little Pony, ok, do it, but don't try and tell me that's a family, that's something brave, moral, etc. It's no better than getting drunk - it's tolerated, not promoted.

artu said:
And I didnt insult you. I dont even dislike you, fred. But you do disconnect from reality and strongly believe things are the other way around sometimes and your posting style becomes quite annoying when you do. I sincerely think Gandalf enabling that is a dangerous thing.  


Yous gaslighting Fred for speaking sense just proves one more time who are the real authoritarians in the public discourse - the lefties (especially the useless humanities, such as gender studies) push society towards an unknown realm by the day and when someone grounds you into reality again you scream "stop the hatespeech, you [something]phobe".
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Salamandre
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posted April 29, 2021 04:49 PM

artu said:
On average, how many transgender persons you pass by in a week, 2,3?


None, in 10 years.

See, that's exactly the problem. How come such an infinitesimal percentage of the population became a topic we hear about at least 10 times a day.

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artu
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posted April 29, 2021 05:09 PM

@Sal

“The witchunters” are the ones who bring it up ten times a day on every platform.

@Gandalf

Look, I linked the studies regarding hormonal and genetic causes. That is not ideology, it’s positive sciences. It doesnt mean there is a single “gay gene” as you oversimplify but no matter how many times you repeat XX and XY, human body is not that simple. Genitals dont always determine gender identity and sometimes the genital itself is in an intersex condition anyway. Asking  not to be discriminated or shunned because of that is not pushing for a “new normal.” They are not trying to decide for you, you are trying to decide for them. Something being out of norm can be harmless (left-handed people, albinos) or harmful (sociopaths). They are not harmful and if they want to have their own family, I got nothing against that.

And I didnt gaslight, I told you about something that actually happened and it did not happen out of the blue.
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fred79
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posted April 29, 2021 05:31 PM

*yawning*

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Gandalf196
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posted April 29, 2021 05:35 PM

artu said:
@Sal


@Gandalf

Look, I linked the studies regarding hormonal and genetic causes. That is not ideology, it’s positive sciences.


No, it is not. For instance, certainly randomized double blind placebo control studies are neccessary in order to verify the usefulness of a drug, but that does not make it sufficient to do so, right? Science is a human activity. Good sense, good philosophy and the ineffable and innate human power to perceive the world also play a role in the construction of knowledge. Unfortunately, men are prone to vanity, to delusions of all sorts for a myriad of reasons. Sometimes it only takes a child to point out that the king is naked. I hope to live to see such times.
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Ghost
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posted April 29, 2021 05:40 PM

@artu

Left-handed cannot be called harmless, therefore it's completely normal. We also have a ambidexterity. I can tell you in my opinion: religion! When right hand gets ring, isn't so? Maybe people marriaged right hander or we kept right hander is the most beauty, and majority generates right hand. But if some says white eggs are more than brown eggs. Yes you know normal, not harmless, because we eat them. I don't remember now so some matter. My ex-GF said my left hand is a handicap. I'm disagreed. I played left handed bring. Such!  

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artu
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posted April 29, 2021 05:46 PM

Gandalf196 said:
No, it is not. For instance, certainly randomized double blind placebo control studies are neccessary in order to verify the usefulness of a drug, but that does not make it sufficient to do so, right? Science is a human activity. Good sense, good philosophy and the ineffable and innate human power to perceive the world also play a role in the construction of knowledge. Unfortunately, men are prone to vanity, to delusions of all sorts for a myriad of reasons. Sometimes it only takes a child to point out that the king is naked. I hope to live to see such times.

Yes, it is a human activity with a method of checks and balances, evaluating observable data. Speaking of vanity and then suggesting to reject its conclusions based on YOUR “good sense, good philosophy” is quite ironic to say the least. Flat-earthers also do that.
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fred79
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posted April 29, 2021 05:52 PM

*yawns again*

so verrrrry sleeeeeeeeeepy...

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Minion
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posted April 29, 2021 06:27 PM

I wonder if this is supposed to be "as clear and evident" as was the voter fraud in USA? Only these pillars of true science know the truth, lol.
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Gandalf196
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posted April 29, 2021 06:46 PM

Minion said:
I wonder if this is supposed to be "as clear and evident" as was the voter fraud in USA? Only these pillars of true science know the truth, lol.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/02/22/three-supreme-court-justices-believe-pennsylvania-election-case-should-be-review-n2585115
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Gandalf196
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posted April 29, 2021 06:56 PM

My point stands:

An experiment should be conducted: people experimenting mental conflict with their bodies should be separated from any and all forms of pornography. I firmly believe this would make these feelings go away in the majority of cases.
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Salamandre
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posted April 29, 2021 07:13 PM

Ghost said:
@artu


You lose your time, he won't answer. He only picks easy topics.

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artu
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posted April 29, 2021 07:21 PM

Well, I guess , you have been an easy topic too then, my dear friend.
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posted April 29, 2021 07:29 PM


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Gnomes2169
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posted April 29, 2021 07:37 PM

Salamandre said:
Ghost said:
@artu


You lose your time, he won't answer. He only picks easy topics.


Now, I'm no Ghost whisperer, but I don't think Ghost is saying... what you think he's saying. He's comparing being transgendered to being left handed, and then giving an example of how religious doctrine could require rings to be put on the right hand despite the left potentially being more comfortable.

Kinda like he's trying to draw a line between religious indoctrination and anti-trans sentiments. And how it's kinda pointless to discriminate.

But it's Ghost, and he could also just be talking about flavor text from his Heroes 4 map, and be asking Artu for his opinion.
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artu
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posted April 29, 2021 07:47 PM

That’s how I interpreted his post, too. But I dont think Sal’s sarcasm was directly about me not answering to Ghost.
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artu
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posted April 29, 2021 08:05 PM

Ghost said:



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