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vesuvius
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posted January 16, 2003 04:37 PM |
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No more rules or rules changes for clans -- they are good the way they are. Do you propose that every member that becomes a legionnaire in a clan must move on since, only one legionnaire per clan rule? How is a successful clan supposed to stay together then?
Think about it. These rules were crafted together from 4 years of clans and divisions rules, tried and true.
As long as the rule states upon opening a clan only the leader can be a legionnaire or higher, this keeps the recruiting to baron rank and lower. Now if those barons move up in rank over the course of their membership in a clan, they should not be penalized.
But of course, the member legionnaire in the clan can always leave and open his own.
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Jinxer
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posted January 16, 2003 06:28 PM |
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To many forfiets should = Cancel War!!
1 forfiet is bearly okay but if there are 2 forfiets in the war then the war should be canceled. There is no way there should be any award of win or bonuses for only 1or 2 games actually being played.
Similar to Divisions, atleast 75% of the games need to be played to get credit. This is how it was done in the past. It is not wrote in stone but something like this should be clarified.
To many clans think they should deserve a win if all 4 opponents forfiet and NO games are played lol. That is silly. I would propose that at least 75% or 3/4 of games MUST be played to get any credit and then maybe not full credit unless 100% played.
Jinxer
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Basu
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posted January 16, 2003 11:43 PM |
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Vez I see your point, but when I read the rules it says
"The 3 teammates must be Baron ranked or lower."
I have no problem with the fact that you can have a clan with more then one legionare but then it says otherwise in the rules its confusing.
Maybe I read the rules wrong!
And as I've been saying all time take away the rules that not going to be followed!
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vesuvius
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posted January 17, 2003 01:37 AM |
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'did IQ's drop sharply when I was away?'
I dont get you guys, all the rules it says are followed. Perhaps your english is not that good?
I repeat myself: CANNOT BE LEGIONNAIRE at time of recruiting for membership in a clan, OBVIOUSLY when they rise in rank in the clan they stay, or how the hell is a clan supposed to last even a month if they arent allowed to move up in rank in their clan?
Also, im not sure why the forefit thing is being brought up again, as it says in the rules, 1 forefit is acceptable, and makes the clan win 1/2 points. 2 forefits and the clan war is negated.
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insatiable
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posted January 17, 2003 01:57 AM |
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2 forefits and the clan war is negated.
huuum..
did not know that,how smallprint was that!?
..or should i change my glasses?
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Basu
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posted January 17, 2003 11:47 AM |
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I must make one final reply.
I just read the rules again!
And as I said in my last post the rules state the the members can be only Baron or lower!!
And thats the part under registration and membership.
And as i interpret that is that all members except the clan leader must be baron or lower!
Maybe I've got the lowest IQ in the world but I can read 
Maybe that sentence should be "baron or lower at registration instead" just for clarification!
I will rest my case now since I really don't have a problem with that rule. I just want simpel rules that can't by missinterpreted!!
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insatiable
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posted January 17, 2003 02:31 PM |
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hey,basu..
you can hire kracx as your lawyer on this 
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valkyrica
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posted January 17, 2003 03:51 PM |
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well, some people just don't get it ... if ves "enlightened" you why are you still debating it ? and as for the other toh members, by the time they reach legionnaire status they will know wether they can join a clan or not ... so the purpose of all your postings is futile.
Now to my next point, forefits in clan wars shouldn't affect the one clan w/o any forefits ... it's stupid, cause if a clan sees that they're losing the first two matches, they'll just forefit the other two and they war gets cancelled ..., now i know i'm new to toh and clans but i would suggest the forefiting clan not only loses the war, but lose some prestige points (and maybe on 2 or 3 forefited wars they can lose a land or so), that will teach all the players to meet deadlines and not engage in a war unless they have the time for it
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Jinxer
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posted January 17, 2003 09:55 PM |
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Valk if a clan causes the disbandment of a war to many times do to purposely forfieting etc, then yes they will get prestige and land penalties, but no matter how it goes down no clan should gain a win for not playing LMAO.
Jinxer
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vesuvius
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posted January 18, 2003 03:42 AM |
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copy/paste
A Clan Forefit
If a clan fails to finish a clan war, and forefits the clan war, they can lose a land they control (becomes unowned land again). The clan also loses 10 prestige. (Can go into negative prestige). All 8 players must participate in a clan war to have a victory/loss. If a clan member intentionally forefits or avoids playing a designated clan war, it could mean forefit for their whole clan, without forefit penalty to opposing clan. *A clan war can still be finished with one matchup forefit, but the victory prestige points for the winning clan is halved.
*** So if there is a small forefit (because a player doesnt play or is lazy etc... it just means that the winning clan will get less points, but rest is ok. But if a clan in its entirety tries to forefit out of a war, it gets nailed pretty bad. This rule was made more to ensure that people who start the wars know they can finish and have members who will finish.
Ie. do not waste everyone's time if you cannot support your clan.
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insatiable
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posted January 22, 2003 12:00 AM |
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Dedlines
i see dedlines are set to 2-3 weeks..thats huge
players get lazy not finding eachother
myself have met 2 of my opponents,talked to them,and didnt have the mood for arranging a date to play..
i think it will not lessen forefit rate,just stall tournament evolution.
those who mean to play their games can certaily finish 2-3 games in 10-12 days.
activity is main factor for Clans to work.sooo..
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Jinxer
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posted January 22, 2003 02:16 AM |
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Insatiable some of us have real lives. I cannot play 2-3 games in 2 weeks. It takes me a full week to get 1 game in. I have 56k modem so 5-10 min transfers are standard so takes several days to finish a game.
2-3 week deadlines are just perfect. And I bet there are more 56k users then there are high speed users.
Jinxer
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dEth8
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posted January 22, 2003 03:35 AM |
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If I understand correctly....
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A Clan Forefit
If a clan fails to finish a clan war, and forefits the clan war, they can lose a land they control (becomes unowned land again). The clan also loses 10 prestige. (Can go into negative prestige). All 8 players must participate in a clan war to have a victory/loss. If a clan member intentionally forefits or avoids playing a designated clan war, it could mean forefit for their whole clan, without forefit penalty to opposing clan. *A clan war can still be finished with one matchup forefit, but the victory prestige points for the winning clan is halved.
*** So if there is a small forefit (because a player doesnt play or is lazy etc... it just means that the winning clan will get less points, but rest is ok. But if a clan in its entirety tries to forefit out of a war, it gets nailed pretty bad. This rule was made more to ensure that people who start the wars know they can finish and have members who will finish.
Ie. do not waste everyone's time if you cannot support your clan.
Small problem.....my clan has lost 3 out of 4 matches.....now I can forfeit and half my opponents gains or I can play on and maybe win the rest. If I feel I might have a good chance at losing one of the 4 games then I might be inclined to throw the match and at least assure that they didn't get full credit for the war. Hopefully this would never be an issue, but it could be done....especially around finals times. I think I might favor an extra small penalty to a clan that is in this situation rather then taking from the winning clans gains.
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insatiable
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posted January 22, 2003 04:22 AM |
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some of us have real lives
..some of YOU
what about the rest of us?
aah,no mercy for the sick ones
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valkyrica
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posted January 22, 2003 06:23 PM |
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Jinxer is right ... we computer-generated pseudo-human beings shouldn't have anything to say about this real-human generated game ...
stop meddling Insatiable, you virus you
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Joel
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posted January 24, 2003 01:41 AM |
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In past seasons if you defeated a clan with a higher rank you would gain bonus prestige points.
Is that still the case? I read the clan rules but I don't see anything about it.
Would be a nice little incentive for challenging a higher ranked clan. Imo, of course.
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vesuvius
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posted January 24, 2003 05:13 AM |
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To Joel - at this point no
It originally was designed that way because the clan upgrades and artifacts were much stronger. Now a level 1 or 2 upgrade is not that significant.
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valkyrica
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posted January 24, 2003 05:22 AM |
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vesuvius prowls the streets at this late hour ...
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Joel
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posted January 24, 2003 07:28 AM |
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Thank you Ves.
Makes sense to me.
Joel (Which is rare;-p)
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insatiable
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posted January 31, 2003 01:53 PM |
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quest0n
says in clan rules:Quote:
When a Clan holds several lands adjacent to each other in the same continent or island
..so,if a clan has 2 adjacent in main continent and 2 adjacent in an island..it counts as - 4 - adjacent?..so clan gets at lev2?
i guess it must be so,or no clan will ever go beyond lev2
just checking
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