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skeleton_king

   
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posted September 15, 2008 03:11 PM |
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and, when will starts?
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Asheera

    
      
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Elite Assassin
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posted September 15, 2008 03:12 PM |
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"Earthquake disabled because it sucks" LOL best comment ever
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Azagal

    
      
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Smooth Snake
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posted September 16, 2008 11:56 AM |
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Did you actually see the map yet ? They have zero impact on gameplay . I guess they're simply there so that you can visit the mentor more often on the same day xD.
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Elvin

     
       
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 16, 2008 12:46 PM |
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What are you talking about?
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radar

   
     
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Castle/Haven player
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posted September 16, 2008 12:50 PM |
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Me versus Lexxan
A very interesting (and close) battle - me leading dungeon and Lex as orcs.
I left with only 12 Shadow Mistresses 
here
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Elvin

     
       
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Endless Revival
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posted September 16, 2008 01:07 PM |
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It's good that you had good summoning, you killed your dragons too early and without doing much damage.
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blizzardboy

    
      
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Nerf Herder
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posted September 16, 2008 01:58 PM |
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Does somebody want to do a scrimmage with me before I head to class?
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Asheera

    
      
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Elite Assassin
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posted September 16, 2008 02:28 PM |
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So far we are 13 players... not a "nice" number for a tournament...
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blizzardboy

    
      
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Nerf Herder
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posted September 16, 2008 02:48 PM |
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Quote: So far we are 13 players... not a "nice" number for a tournament...
+Elvin = 14
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Elvin

     
       
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Endless Revival
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posted September 16, 2008 02:55 PM |
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Yes but I have not included myself
I'm thinking of adding one more rule: No swift mind. It can be greatly abused in this map even though you waste some levels that play no role in the battle itself. For instance an early destructive spell with dungeon can end the game before it begins - suppose sylvan may act before it, haven won't. Likewise sylvan with swift mass haste/RM can be crazy to stop. Only case where I would consider it is dungeon vs inferno because of the familiars, however you can get intelligence/arcane excellence so it doesn't really matter. Same for necro.
To avoid complications such as x can use it, y should not I think it's easier to ban it altogether. Thoughts?
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Asheera

    
      
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posted September 16, 2008 02:58 PM |
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Is it really that good?
I mean, you waste 4 skills for it (Advanced Logistics + Scouting + Arcane Intuition). But I see some classes like Ranger don't need Arcane Intuition so you waste less...
But I understand if you want to ban it, it can do some nasty things at the start and then the battle is already over
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Elvin

     
       
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Endless Revival
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posted September 16, 2008 03:08 PM |
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The skill in itself is not essential but creates situational problems.
An empowered meteor that hits paladins and 2-3 other have stacks before they act and it's only a matter of time before you win.
With sylvan their units already act before the opponent so you can imagine if they also get boosted before their attack. Necro is dead meat, even if they puppet a unit the rest can butcher them in no time.
Etc.
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Azagal

    
      
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posted September 16, 2008 03:34 PM |
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Quote: What are you talking about?
The guy above me deleted his post he demanded that the boots of swift journey had to be banned!!
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Asheera

    
      
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Elite Assassin
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posted September 16, 2008 03:36 PM |
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Well they should be banned, because they may occupy a slot in Dungeon's or Academy's Artifact Shop
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Elvin

     
       
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posted September 16, 2008 03:39 PM |
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I think they were banned from the beginning, only Ossir starts with them because he wastes movement to reach the favoured units and back. You won't find 'adventure' artifacts in the map.
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Lexxan

    
      
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Unimpressed by your logic
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posted September 16, 2008 03:47 PM |
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Quote: A very interesting (and close) battle - me leading dungeon and Lex as orcs.
I left with only 12 Shadow Mistresses 
here 
I alos made a HUGE mistake before battle: I had gotten Tripple Flaming Ballista, but run out of Money to buy me one. really, really stupid!
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Azagal

    
      
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Smooth Snake
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posted September 16, 2008 04:04 PM |
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LOL!! The pain ><. Anyways did you already trade all your resourcess for money? They get you arround 2500 which reaaaally helps out if you were unlucky with the Mentor but you just need that one perk you have all the prerequests for .
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blizzardboy

    
      
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posted September 16, 2008 04:19 PM |
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Quote: Yes but I have not included myself 
You don't want to play?
Quote: I'm thinking of adding one more rule: No swift mind. It can be greatly abused in this map even though you waste some levels that play no role in the battle itself. For instance an early destructive spell with dungeon can end the game before it begins - suppose sylvan may act before it, haven won't. Likewise sylvan with swift mass haste/RM can be crazy to stop. Only case where I would consider it is dungeon vs inferno because of the familiars, however you can get intelligence/arcane excellence so it doesn't really matter. Same for necro.
To avoid complications such as x can use it, y should not I think it's easier to ban it altogether. Thoughts?
Wow, and I thought I was a swiftmind fanboy. It's awesome, but you think it should be banned even though you have to spend a minimum of 4 skills (including swift mind)? Think of all the things you could do with 4 skills that you're missing out on. I'll accept getting pounded with a meteor swarm the first round if it means the dungeon player didn't have room to get warlock's luck and a few other good perks. level 21 is just enough to complete 3 full skills (exluding the primary skill), so missing out 4 (or more) skills means it's going to badly hurt you in one of your areas.
You're the one that's done a bunch of test games with it. It doesn't matter to me since I wasn't planning on using it anyway, but perhaps I should have since you're thinking about banning it.
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Azagal

    
      
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Smooth Snake
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posted September 16, 2008 04:27 PM |
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Can we just agree to let Elvin decide the calls without discussion? I guess that should prevent some potential conflict, if he choses do ban something you can trust him that he has gone over it more than a couple of times and that he knows what he's doing.
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Lexxan

    
      
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Unimpressed by your logic
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posted September 16, 2008 04:37 PM |
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Quote: LOL!! The pain ><. Anyways did you already trade all your resourcess for money? They get you arround 2500 which reaaaally helps out if you were unlucky with the Mentor but you just need that one perk you have all the prerequests for .
to be honest, i'd completely forgotten that I had tripple Flaming. I was worried cause I had no money left and wanted to retrain my Cyclops and Goblins before it was too late...
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