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posted October 15, 2003 10:59 AM |
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Bi Sexual People
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posted October 15, 2003 12:02 PM |
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They're people, just like everybody else. Good and bad, smart and stupid, strong and weak etc. etc. etc.
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Lith-Maethor
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posted October 15, 2003 12:05 PM |
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moving this to Other side
and just for the record... I have no prob with bi males whatsoever... unless they try to hit on me, then I admit I get somewhat mean...
of course bi women are a whole different thing  ...in other words, "how YOU doin'?"
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posted October 15, 2003 05:39 PM |
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Good.
And I wouldn't mind if they try to hit on me.
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Lady_Milena
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posted October 15, 2003 06:59 PM |
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Admittedly, I'm bi as well.
Just as admittedly, I've never had any real experience with a woman. Never found the right one IRL I guess.
I don't mind bi people. As long as they don't do anything to disturb you personally, I do not see why you should ess in people's business and judge them for it. Why do I mean by "disturb"? Harrassment. If you are not attracted to the same sex (or the other for that reason) and someone constantly is trying to hit on you and change your basic beliefs and chemistry of your body, that's harrassment. That's nasty. That's obnoxious.
But it's also the same about straight people. If you repeatedly hit on someone who does not like you, they say they don't like you and want you AWAY and you keep on hitting on them, you're just as nasty, just as obnoxious. Only that people are used to it and that fits in the "normal" category. Which is a kinda sad. If you're used to it, it's OK. Just because you are not and it's not a part of you, it's *obnoxious*.
But back to the point of being bisexual.
Maybe I'm not going to be very medically correct but this is what I have read and understood. 10% of the world's population are homosexual in their being. IE, not attracted to the opposite sex but their own. And that's just the way it is for these people. For them this is -normal-. But since that's not the case with the rest 90%, they are considered weirdos, pervs, you know the names. I say EH! Some claim experience in the childhood can turn a person's psychology to homosexual (or bi for that matter). I'm prone to believe that but I also think that there's something in the genes, the way you were conceived and created, that makes you like your own sex. Something in your nature, your -own- nature cannot be foul and wrong, can it, if you're conceived this way and would actually prefer the other way round so that you avoid people's nastiness and prejudice?
Some people like the red color, some like fuscia. The latter are nuts according to me but just because it's their personal preference, it doesn't make them less than me. Same with bi or homosexual people. Hey. What they do in -their- bedrooms is none of -my- business and I weep for those who think otherwise.
Ah, as for bi people. To get to the point, I think bi are the more fortunate and the luckiest. Why? The majority of population directly excluded half of the population as unfit for partners. Not the same with bi people. Everyone, given the chemistry and the right falling, could become a successful partner, and I don't mean sexually only. There are sooo many things you wouldn't share with a person just because you feel there can be no chemistry between the two of you, based on the sameness of gender. While bi people get all the population and a choice twice as big.
And yet it's very rarely a personal choice. You do not rightly choose who to like or not. Or for that reason, who to feel sexually attracted to. And yet, I am happy to admit I'm attracted to both genders, because I'm (theoretically) open for everyone. I don't shun anyone in my preference based on sex.
For the practical side of it. Yep, I did admit that I have never had any real experience with it. How do I know I'm bi? Well, I remember telling a close friend of mine a few days ago *ahems* "I want a girlfriend." I find women very beautiful (men, does that ring a bell with ya?), very delicate and gentle, for the most part that is. Yeah, I find women beautiful and I have always admitted I'm quite attracted to beauty. Beautiful in their own, unique way, way no man can achieve. I found frail, quiet, porcelain beauty as attractive as the macho, strong, protective kind of charm men have.
They also say only a woman truly knows how to touch a woman. As I grow older and more experienced, I see the BIG point and validy of this statement. A lot of men would very rudely perform in bed and I don't mean because they are inexperienced or uncaring. It's just that they can't perceive any more gentle would do a better trick. I remember the last guy I was with. He really -did- try hard to make me feel good. I'd always tell him to slow down and NOT THAT HARD. He would for a moment, really -really- trying hard, then, with his male nature, go on his male ways.
Heck with it.
Very few women would go as aggressive. Most I've encountered would go slow and tentalizing. And I don't mean sexual ways right now either; while there are still violent, nasty women, most would rather get the 'second way' than try to bully. Most women tend to share the same needs and perception of the world. Okay, we can argue on this a LOT but I feel much more in common with my female friends than male friends when it's about demands and needs in a relationship.
So if I see a girl that I'm attracted to and the feeling is mutual, I'm sure I'd go for it. Parents and friends' opinion can be frustrating sometimes but ... I'd rather be with someone who makes me happy, no matter the gender, than listen to what others impose to me. You can't force a person into liking something or NOT liking it.
As long as they don't force the same thing back on you (when we get to the old point of people hitting on you when you don't want them to).
And last, it was very recently that I became sure and confident of my own -real- sexual preferences. I was RPing with a female friend of mine, both our characters female, and we struck such an amazing scene that... I very rarely get turned on by scenes I play, erotic scenes or whatever. But this one was an exception. And the moment I played it, I knew things would be the same if they got real.
So, I like my sexual preference, I respect it, and respect other people's. Before you point a finger at someone and tell them they are -not- quite right, gross and all those unpleasant things a lot of homosexual and bisexual people hear, think what you dream in bed when you are alone at night.
And for you, feminists. I'm for -true- equality of genders. I have do not prefer one gender over the other. ;-)
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Till next time.
Milena. Out.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted October 15, 2003 09:03 PM |
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for bi males i have like gays no probs with em as long as they dont hit on me.
As for bi girls i wouldnt mind having one as gf, could get some nice threesomes then 
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posted October 15, 2003 09:43 PM |
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as another bisexual woman...
In an ideal world, my significant other would also be bi. Not only would that provide common ground, it would also mean they had an understanding of bisexuality that transended stereotypical comments/conceptions regarding things like, say, threesomes...
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Lady_Milena
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posted October 15, 2003 10:29 PM |
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Oh.......... threesomes.
I have a sin to admit.
Which I was still on Nantucket, I had the experience to find myself in a dark broom closet with two guys who thought I felt too warm with my clothes on. Oi.
Let's say that if there was another girl in that closet and not a guy, I would have gotten wild but two guys turned me off. I don't like sandiches when I get to be the meat in it.
But threesomes? hell, yeah. Guys could only watch to... ;-)
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posted October 16, 2003 02:53 AM |
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Crazy but i already knew you were that wild.
Bis can be really cool people but I make sure they know so I tell them.
"As long as you dont have a problem that I am straight, then I dont have a problem that your gay or bi.
Funny how men & women that I know says more % that alot better women being gay or bi then men cause really disgusting even for women when two DUDES get it on.
Waiting for Hudsons reply  .
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posted October 16, 2003 03:40 AM |
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bi well are weird by everyone has there own oppion on what they want and how they wont
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posted October 16, 2003 08:16 AM |
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Bi ppl are just ppl who like all ppl. I'm not bi, but I see not a bunch of harm in that. On the same account I prefer to not talk to bi guys cuz if their with me, like most guys think with women, I dont want o be target of that affection.
But still, your all ok lol
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posted October 17, 2003 04:50 PM |
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I'm not bi, but I have had friends that were bi, and also some that were gay.
I made it clear that I was straight, and we got along just fine. I don't think it's right to be mean to a person just because of their sexual preference, it's their choice, afterall.
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posted October 17, 2003 05:04 PM |
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Well, this is refreshing!!!!
Lady Milena, I applaud your well-developed post. Thanks for sharing.
My husband thinks everybody is bisexual at some level, recalling that all fetuses are female unless and until a certain wash of hormones produces a penis.
As for us, we are one of those rare couples that oogles the same beautiful women (as you, Milena). We'll be in the grocery store, and I see one, and I nudge my husband to point her out.
So, I guess I would be bi, except that I'm not actually sexually attracted to women. I'm just fascinated by their beauty. I found out years ago during a threesome encounter with a couple who are close friends of mine that getting physically intimate with the woman half of the couple was just a little too weird.
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posted October 17, 2003 06:41 PM |
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Peacemaker,
thanks for your compliment!
As for the sexual contact with the woman of the couple... see what I think. It's been years and years and years people drilling and instilling children's minds that homosexual contacts are ... weird. Just that I don't use another word. It's a bit of a "firewall" between you and the other person, sometimes merely because your mentality has been set like that.
Second, if you've had sexual contacts with men only, I'm -sure- it does feel -weird- to touch another woman, with different body. Breasts instead of flat chest. Small waist. (insert other more pronounced body differences). I'm sure the initial contact can be very confusing, especially if you're not profoundly attracted to the person.
And third, there comes the point of open-mindness. Some people are perfectly straight but -want- to try out something more ... spicy. Not because it's their true preference but because they are wild. Or the opposite. You may be attracted physically to both sexes but because you're set that you're straight, to never think you're attracted. It's not a matter of inhibitions, it's a matter of how your mind is set to work.
ANd last, I also think women are much more sensual and wicked when it gets to the bedroom. Men and women have such in such different ways and I don't mean the physical movements they make. It's just different. And oh, boy, I like it.
BTW, I have a theory why girl-on-girl is such a major turn-on for men (and often for women) and why man-on-man is a turn off. But I want to make sure you, peeps, are interested in hearing.
Anyone?
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posted October 17, 2003 07:32 PM |
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All very good points Milady. And, yes, as long as the mods don't mind, what is your theory on the apparent difference in social reaction to two women as opposesd to two men (I don't personally think either one is any weirder than the other, but then that's just me. Many people appear to have this reaction.)
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Aculias
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posted October 18, 2003 06:14 AM |
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Quote:
Well, this is refreshing!!!!
My husband thinks everybody is bisexual at some level, recalling that all fetuses are female unless and until a certain wash of hormones produces a penis.
everybody lol.
I disagree.
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posted October 18, 2003 08:37 PM |
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i have difficulty understanding the mentality of a bi person, i've always thought people were always turned on by one sex and then repulsed by the other (sexually). to me being bi seems...inconceivable. i hope that doesn't offend anyone it certainly isn't intended to.
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posted October 18, 2003 08:41 PM |
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snow whoever you want in whatever combination of peg and hole makes you happy (assuming they agree, and whatnot) just don't define yourself by who your dick is in or who's licking you where.
I really worry about people who define themselves by who they snow rather than who they are. "I'm bi, what do all you think about that?" or "Don't you think my new girlfriend is hot?" or any questions like that really suggest that somebody is looking for approval in the wrong places.
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posted October 18, 2003 09:18 PM |
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Bort, I tend (as usual) to agree with you in general, but must nonetheless add that our sexuality DOES to a great degree define who we are. Society dictates that this be the case, in reality. One need look no further than the Anglican Church meltdown over the pending consecration of its first gay minister, causing a global incident including violence all over the place, to ascertain just how defining an element this is.
But then, perhaps that's exactly your point bort. The reality is we are judged and dealt with by others who may disagree with our personal feelings. The ideal, however, is that this is not what should be happening.
In the meantime though, in our formative years it helps to have others around us validate that we are not alone in our feelings, our fears, and our society in general. This is a large part of the whole concept of community.
As for the age thing, that depends almost entirely on two things: the personalities of the individuals involved, and what they are trying to accomplish in the relationship.
Younger women who are very intelligent tend to be attracted to older men simply because in large part women mature emotionally younger than men, and prefer a better personality fit over finding someone in their own age group.
It seems, similarly, that younger men who are more emotionally mature and intelligent than the norm (no offense guys) tend to gravitate toward women who are older than they are.
So, IMHO, if one is trying to establish a compatible relationship of indefinite length (for the time being) then personality is more important than age.
When one begins considering forming a life partnership, perhaps to include having children, age should probably become a more important consideration. The wider the age split, the more likely that one person is going to be left behind at an earlier age. The ability to have and raise children might be impacted by an age disparity. Also, the greater the likelihood the attraction might eventually suffer from the onset of age in the older partner. Clearly, this is more true for older women than it is for older men, since by society's rules men tend to become what we consider more "attractive" as they age, and women, by those rules, generally become seen as less "attractive." (Unfair it is, but true.)
However, personality compatibility still remains important. If both people are entering a relationship of significant age difference with their eyes open, then so be it. My recently deceased friend's brother, for instance, is engaged to a woman 25 years younger than he is. They are willing to take the risk, and are doing so with their eyes wide open, especially since my friend's demise had brought to the woman's attention she might not have much time with her new husband. Both have already had children, so this is not a consideration for them.
Having met them both, frankly they seem like an ideal couple to me.
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posted October 18, 2003 09:34 PM |
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Another Milena Post (with the capital P)
PM, worry not. It's a matter of psychology, not debauch, and Shae Trielle and I have done -much- worse things and still got QPs for that. *grin*
Okay, now back to the question, why is girl-on-girl a turn on for people and man-on-man a turn off?
And of course, like an expert Freud, I'll go back to the basics. The differences between men and women. Alright, the anatomy part of it all you know. Let's talk a bit more about psychology. How do women behave among other women? Typically, women have best friends. They would go out together, share secrets, gossip, joke with one another, have fun. And why do women greet each other when they meet? They would hug and kiss cheeks and would stroke hairs. This is something like... I think it's always been this way, been in the centuries before. Women merely get close physically and is accepted by custom, tradition and mentality.
Even now, just an hour ago, some friends to the family came home, one guy, his wife and 2 daughters. The girls and I exchanged kisses while the fathers, mine and their, only shook hands. Manners are so deeply inbred in the blood that we can't even proceed it to the consciousness.
Girls would go together in pairs to the bathrooms. Would take showers together. I've done that with my female friends. We'd show each other out underwear and wear it for the other to see and approve. Now tell me, isn't that perfectly acceptable in people's eyes? It's great with me. But tell me, too, how many GUYS do that? Nope. Alone to bathroom. No kissing. No caressing. Even for pictures. Girls would hug and caress while men would stay away.
It's also in women's nature that they are much more affectionate and gentle. Women are much more prone to caress others at no penalty and they actually like doing it. Well, most do. You can't really say the same about guys.
Next thing is, women's bodies are lovely. Very erotic. Very gentle. Think of the art of all those artist throughout the ages. You'd see a lot of naked women but so few men. Women behave close to one another, act gentle and affectionate to one another and because it's women's style and is sensual and erotic, it's a turn on and not a turn off.
Men on the other hand tend to be more aggressive. Any homosexual sexual act normally involves a lot of caressing, stroking, rubbing, nuzzling for it usually does not involve penetration (like how else I'd say). That's a style to fit women much, much more. That's because they are more sensual than sexual in their sexual behavior, in the general sense.
Think of it like this. Would you like to see two little, fluffy, lovely kittens play together and lick each other? I'd say it's a lovely picture! Now think of two big, aggressive, dominant tom cats. Still fluffy and all. But will it be as pleasing to the eye? Not to mine....
It majorly depends on the women involved in the act. Some women no matter what are just plain repulsive. But I will tell you of a very recent thing that happened to me. I was playing my character Selene (a lovely woman) who met another woman and the two quite fell for one another. Imagine it. The first one with long hair to the rear, skin like porcelain, gentle, white hands caressing skillfully. And the other, slightly taller, with long blond hair, slightly shy, but very passionate inside. They were having fun together and ohh... we called a halt because I the mun, the RL me, got very, very excited just at the image of it. The image of these two little fluffy kittens being together in such a sensual way.
But anyway, that's me and that's been a LOOOOOONG me for tonight.
*grins and outs*
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Bi sexuality can really define you as a person for bi peeps seem to be more open-minded and flexible. It's not a matter what you do in your bedroom with another person and of what sex as long as you both enjoy it and there's no harm done. Your sexual orientation does define you as a person for it gives you clues for the dude in question. But you don't divide people by "okay" and "not okay" because of what they do in private with other people.
But just to give you an example of how sexuality changes people's minds, I'll tell you this. When I was in the USA, people would often ask me if I had a BF. I'd turn to them, look them in the eyes and ask them "Do you mean if I have a GF?" Then I would just watch reaction. If they would not accept someone could have other sexual preferences... the heck with people who don't tolerate me for what I do in private.
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Milena, out
EDIT: A typo!!! In the first line!!! Had to correct it before anyone saw my imperfection. ;-)
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