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UndeadLord
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posted November 14, 2003 10:19 AM |
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Anybody doing a new clan?
If anybody are doing a new clan I could join that.
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hamsi128
Promising
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tosser tavern owner
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posted November 14, 2003 05:23 PM |
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ask braveheart_TM 
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted November 15, 2003 01:22 AM |
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i think if we ever get a new season clans should just be cleared and started over. People would make more clans then
because now if they make clan they only can fight clans that have artys and lands already. plus they think no one wants them
but the barons and squires pages all longggggg there should be plenty of active people
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slayer
whos your daddy and what does he do?
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted November 21, 2003 12:13 AM |
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yes, its obvious clans needs to be restarted with the new season. i think there should be some sort of total points cap for new clans (a maximum combined pts total from season 1).. or, we could form a pool of everyone who wants to be in clans and then ves will hand-select each clan. this was balcough's suggestion.
also, i think with a little thinking clans can be improved. for instance, if a clan holds a large mass of territory, they should get some type of penalty while fighting clan wars, while at the same time getting bonuses from artys and clan level bonuses. after all, they own a lot of territory, so their forces should be spread thin. example - if clan holds more than 5 lands maybe they dont start with a starting army? nothing big, but a li'l something. they will still have the advantage over clans with fewer lands anyway cuz theyll have arty bonuses and clan level bonuses, but the penalty (whatever it may be) for having so many lands will at least make them beatable..
or maybe they start with 3000 less gold. also, maybe if the difference in # of lands owned is 3 or more between two fighting clans then the weaker clan starts with a +2 morale arty? kinda like the US when they broke away from Great Britain.. they were fewer but they had better morale while Britain's troops didn't fight as hard. in world history the underdog army always fights with more zeal, so this makes sense. it hardly is a game-winner for the underdog clan, but it just gives em a little help. i think little things like this could really improve the quality of Clans of Axeoth 
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted November 21, 2003 12:24 AM |
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max a clan needs to win a clan war is one good guy even if all the other guys lose there match you still have him to fall back on
but there should be a plenty for getting clans when they vs. weaker ones it would make it fair and more people would play since now they have a little more chance to win
i counted on the list of legionairs , barons , and squires
theres 12 guys who are active but never in tourys or clans
clans is the best way to learn also. where can you get like an emerpor to play with a baron or a squire because he must for a clan war
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slayer
whos your daddy and what does he do?
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted November 21, 2003 08:45 AM |
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Quote: "if a clan holds a large mass of territory, they should get some type of penalty"
Is it just me or does this seem a little backwards?
So the above defines as a clan who has good teamwork, addict players, and good skill should be penalized for their success.
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If you want my honest view of clans at this point, even with the new season reset, the activity levels will not be sufficient to support a new clans. That fact is unfortunate but true.
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted November 21, 2003 08:51 AM |
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but then how could we make new clans?
theres atleast 30 active players
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slayer
whos your daddy and what does he do?
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted November 21, 2003 05:51 PM |
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Edited By: Jinxer on 21 Nov 2003
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I see balcoughs and camels point but disagree that the stronger clans should get a penalty... BUT I do think that they should only beable to use 1 artifact per member. So if you have 15 artifacts then you pick the 4 best ones that works best for the map your playing etc.
The logistics of the tourny breaks down half way thru when you have the addict players that have no life and they eat up 12 lands real fast then have 12 artifacts and then a weaker or newer clan cannot compete with them.
I think this is what Camel and Balcough were leaning toward.
Also think it would be challenging feature to let the weaker of the 2 clans choose the map. Give the underdog the slight advantage each war, that would tend to balance things out for longer in the tourny. I think more people would be active for longer in the tourny if these things were concidered.
I just disagree with the whole Reaganomics of the rich get richer. or the strong get stronger.
The stronger you get the tuffer it should be on you to maintain your lead etc.
Jinxer
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted November 21, 2003 06:21 PM |
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ah, you didn't read my post very well..
i said that the clans who have lots of lands have a big advantage against smaller clans, since they obviously have all those bonuses. this makes sense, obviously. but adding a slight penalty (i.e. starting with 2k less gold) to the bigger clan or giving the smaller clan a bonus (i.e. +2 morale arty) will help the smaller clan a little. dont get me wrong, the bigger clan STILL HAS A BIG ADVANTAGE, but at least this way the bigger clan is vincible.
and jinxer just said exactly what i said: it should be harder to maintain your lead as you get stronger. just like as an empire grows it becomes harder and harder for it to hold all of it's lands.
and yeah, each member should be only to use one or two artys per game. you cant possibly expect the underdog to win a single game if the bigger clan is starting the game w/halberd, ring of health, ring of strength, and bag of gold.
this way is much better than the current way because it gives the little guy a chance. it will avoid the problem we had in Season 1 of clans when there were only a few clans who could be effective. This way the clans who are active and win a lot of lands will still of course be gifted, but it wont be unbalanced anymore.. it will now at least be possible for the underdog to win a clan war against the big boys.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted November 21, 2003 07:28 PM |
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No NO... YOU said what I said
Jinxer
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted November 21, 2003 09:22 PM |
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Even i agree... !
Ves, can you give it a try ? reset all clans and I have a few suggestions for changes !
I agree to what camel and jinxer are saying, and on top of that, metalurgy clan should not get choice of halberd anymore (it's a major in mod, and it was unbalancing anyway), maybe tynan's dagger of despair.
And also the elemental dream teacher and the elemental stonemaker (learning stones) should either be removed or nerfed a little.
Or maybe we can come up with a whole new system of philosophies/specialties based on the player's suggestions.
And we can also make a pool of players interested in playing in clans next season, and then you can set up the clans randomly with a 6000 points cap (points that we have now) -- so if 2 emperors are in a clan together they will have 2 footmen with them and so on ..., we can make a rule that only one existing emperor/lord can exist in a clan ... i don't really care, it was fun playing in clans and it is our duty to revive it !
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mike11
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 21, 2003 09:39 PM |
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I think Ves should consult with active players like myself to figure out how to make clans work. 8)
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted November 21, 2003 09:55 PM |
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why have land arties anyway..
winners could get exp or mony
and losers less exp or less mony..
or winners exp and mony and losers more mony
*activity should be rewarded and encouraged too apart winning*
with those mony you can buy chit from a menu. may be either permanent or new for each game
like.. medium weight arties, creatures, buildings, altars and so on
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted November 21, 2003 10:06 PM |
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or let everyone start at level one of there specialty and make more levels.
then when you first make a clan you have something extra to fight with
you still should have land artys but must be harder to get like if you win 3 out of the 4 matches you get land arty
point cap should be 7000 i think like 2 emepors and like 2 squires or what ever the clan leader picks
there should be more lands and must be harder to get higher level like maybe 4 clans fight over one land the first 2 winners get half then they battle each other or something theres alot of things you can do
and some of the specialty must be changed like valky said
or all redone
and there should be a rule if you try to change your philo when your higher then 1 you must like give back all artys and land or something because its not fair
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slayer
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Arangar
Famous Hero
Weak ranger - lost viking
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posted November 21, 2003 10:26 PM |
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yes...
like the lvl bonuses... those who want blackies to start with have to play without bonuses for the first 3 lvls..
But that is just BS, since we all know several clans have switched to another clan philosophy after gaining a few lvls with their first one (the one that gave them the edge back then).
So when a clan reaches lvl 4, can they switch to the blackie phil?
And bonuses like: xx extra dreamteachers or learning stones are just amazingly unbalanced....
my 2 cp
Arangar
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Arangar
Norwegian viking
ranger of the north
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mike11
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 22, 2003 01:58 AM |
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Quote:
yes...
like the lvl bonuses... those who want blackies to start with have to play without bonuses for the first 3 lvls..
But that is just BS, since we all know several clans have switched to another clan philosophy after gaining a few lvls with their first one (the one that gave them the edge back then).
So when a clan reaches lvl 4, can they switch to the blackie phil?
And bonuses like: xx extra dreamteachers or learning stones are just amazingly unbalanced....
my 2 cp
Arangar
Too bad we could never think of a map where the extra 5 learning stones would overpower a halberd....at least a map that somebody would play us on.
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Mike11 - HOMMIV TOH Legionaire
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted November 22, 2003 02:38 AM |
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lol circle is one
make heroes start going with main army at like 8 instead of 4
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slayer
whos your daddy and what does he do?
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted November 22, 2003 08:44 AM |
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count yourselves
how many truly serious willing to participate in a clans, that would demand activity from them for the next 6 months, minimum? Even if the 5 of you writing here saying yes, is that enough to make several clans? LoL.
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted November 22, 2003 08:49 AM |
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well me me me me
maybe make a little note on main page to make people know
people will come from lower ranks like weeds i think
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Tc_Fear
Famous Hero
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posted November 22, 2003 10:12 AM |
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clans needs major changes.next season if there will be such and if we will have activity(I think we would have).
but not now....
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